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Re: Trade2FI
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2014, 01:40:21 AM »
the Performance of Original Max Risk account

Initial deposit:US $500
Now Balance:US $1579.99
Profit:US $3075.99
Withdrawals:US $2000
Trade since:Apr 23, 2014

Link: http://www.myfxbook.com/members/realreason/max-risk/904081

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Fist Month OF the PAMM Account
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2014, 01:48:22 AM »
The Max Risk PAMM account

Initial deposit:US $4570
Now Balance:US $6410
Profit:US $1840

Trade since:June 28, 2014

for the first month trading, we get a 40.26% profit, the DD is 21% so far.

Link:http://www.myfxbook.com/members/realreason/max-risk-pamm--fxpig/959253
« Last Edit: August 02, 2014, 02:30:04 AM by Trade2FI »

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Re: Trade2FI
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2014, 06:17:36 AM »
40% performance fee is too expensive and is only 3 months of trading in the pamm. Expecting to have huge dd in future.
Demo and news are deceiving so does bt results!!

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Re: Trade2FI
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2014, 06:01:24 AM »
40% performance fee is too expensive and is only 3 months of trading in the pamm. Expecting to have huge dd in future.

Hi Dr ea,

thanks for your reply.

it seems that you have some misunderstanding on the Risk management of Max Risk Strategy.

our concept is, if with a 10K account, people can accept a 5% Max DD, 2% monthly return. then, he only need invest 500$ to get $200 monthly return.
the risk is in fact 100% essentially but the risk capital is low. In this way, you do not need to provide $10K, but only the risk capital $500 to get the same $200 monthly return.

and the other advantage, as $500 is so small capital, we can expect to withdraw all of it in 3-4 months to reach a risk free stats.

the Max Risk is different from normal strategy. we do not suggest clients to invest more than $5K into it.

Hope Helpful,

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Different Risk Control on Max Risk Strategy
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2014, 12:50:50 PM »
We received many emails recently to tell us that the Max Risk strategy is too risky.

It seems that many clients have misunderstanding on the Risk control of Max Risk Strategy.

for the Max Risk, it is not us to control the risk, but you.

You decide the Risk, and the Risk is fixed.

in a normal strategy, you need check the Max DD first, and need a full investment.

let's say, a strategy with Max 5% DD, 2% monthly return, but require a full investment of $10K.

but the problem is, when the strategy fail, you always suffer much more loss than promised DD, even account blown. that means, all your $10K is in Risk.

but, the Max Risk strategy does not require a full investment, you only need provide the risk capital.

what is the risk capital ?

Let's say, you have $10K to invest, but you can only accept 5% Max DD. then, your risk capital is $500.

compare this:
invest $10K, Max 5% DD($500), 2%($200) monthly return
invest $500, Max 90% DD($450),$200 monthly return.

Same Risk(only risk $500),same Result($200 monthly return), correct ? which you prefer ?

the advantage of Max Risk:
1. Risk fixed, and you decide the risk.
2. risk capital always is a small amount, like $500. with max Risk, you can easily withdraw the initial capital in 3-4 months to get in a risk free stat.

of course, for the Risk capital, the risk is 100%. so, we do not suggest you to invest large amount to Max Risk strategy.

Hope these words can give you another sight on the Max Risk strategy.

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Re: Trade2FI
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2014, 03:02:12 AM »
It all looks very interesting but a 40% performance fee puts me off completely.

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« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2014, 05:39:38 AM »
It all looks very interesting but a 40% performance fee puts me off completely.
Compared to normal strategy, Max risk strategy only asks for small amount as risk capital.it requires much more skills to trade with it.

and because the risk capital is so small, we can expect to withdraw the initial deposit within 3-4 months, and to achieve a risk free stats.

so, 40% is fair.

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Re: Trade2FI
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2014, 03:14:59 PM »
It all looks very interesting but a 40% performance fee puts me off completely.
Compared to normal strategy, Max risk strategy only asks for small amount as risk capital.it requires much more skills to trade with it.

and because the risk capital is so small, we can expect to withdraw the initial deposit within 3-4 months, and to achieve a risk free stats.

so, 40% is fair.

Well, I'm not sure I agree with that - you have no drawdown limit to worry about for a start, and you can use 100% of the capital available to you.

Anyway, my point stands - to me, 40% performance fee is way too high so I won't be investing, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if others agree. It's your prerogative of course, however, and I'm sure you've considered whether or not you would make more by charging a lower fee and having more investors.

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« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2014, 08:18:10 PM »

Well, I'm not sure I agree with that - you have no drawdown limit to worry about for a start, and you can use 100% of the capital available to you.

Anyway, my point stands - to me, 40% performance fee is way too high so I won't be investing, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if others agree. It's your prerogative of course, however, and I'm sure you've considered whether or not you would make more by charging a lower fee and having more investors.

I have no idea how you control your risk.

maybe I should ask for a minimum capital of $10K, and promise a Max 5% DD, in this way, you could feel much better, correct ?

this really make me confused.

why you so trust the promised Max DD by the manager ? I never trust them, because when a strategy failed, you always suffer much more loss than the promised Max DD.

so, here is the problem. you still don't understand the risk control of Max Risk Strategy.

the Risk is decided by you.

how much risk you can take, how much you invest.

Still Let's say, you have $10K to invest, and you can only accept 5% DD, then, your risk capital is $500. you only need invest $500 in Max Risk, not all $10K.

but now,you claim that, i can not use all the $500 for trading, I still need to have a Drawdown limit to your only $500 Risk capital, then, how much left for me to trade ?

and about the performance fee,
compare this:
invest $10K, Max 5% DD($500), 2%($200) monthly return
invest $500, Max 90% DD($450),$200 monthly return.

in normal strategy, you need invest $10K to get a 2% monthly return, and the performance fee usually is 20-25%.

but now, you only need invest $500 to get the same return as your $10K, and you still want to pay the same performance fee ?

Please don't be so mean to me.  Please remember, I reduce the minimum required capital,but never reduce the profit.

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New PAMM Account at Tallinex
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2014, 01:27:03 PM »
We have a new PAMM account at Tallinex.

Tallinex can accept US clients. and they provide a 100% deposit bonus.

You can join the new PAMM account through this link:
http://www.tallinex.com/open-account?i=117546&s=117546

and the performance link:
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/realreason/max-risk-mam--tallinex/1018652

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Re: Trade2FI
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2014, 01:21:43 AM »
the PAMM account @ Tallinex is different with the account @ Fxpig.

Tallinex account will directly copy the trades from original Max Risk account of Fxpro.

More Risk, More Gains.

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« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2014, 04:40:51 AM »
Please can you explain what happened to the Max Risk 2 and 3 accounts? I saw the Max 3 has a MC today, and the Max Risk 2 has been deleted (I assume it has also had a MC). Were those accounts run differently to the Max Risk 1 and PAMM accounts?
« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 04:42:27 AM by e1vis »

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« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2014, 04:51:00 AM »
Please can you explain what happened to the Max Risk 2 and 3 accounts? I saw the Max 3 has a MC today. Was it being run differently to the Max Risk and PAMM accounts?

the main difference is on risk management.

Max Risk 2 is much more risky, it will be double in 50-100 pips, so, it also means that it will be destroyed in 50-100 pips too.

Max Risk 3 is less risky than Max risk 2. so far, the profit of max risk 3 is $405.

for the original Max Risk account, the account will be destroyed in a 500 pips run.

and for PAMM account @ fxpig, it need all the 7 major pairs have 1000 pips run at the same time to destroy the account.

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« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 05:03:02 AM by Trade2FI »

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« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2014, 04:54:52 AM »
please notice that, Max Risk 3 is not blown up, still trading, the balance is $905, equity is $791, profit is $405 so far.

« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 05:01:36 AM by Trade2FI »

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« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2014, 04:59:18 AM »
Please can you explain what happened to the Max Risk 2 and 3 accounts? I saw the Max 3 has a MC today, and the Max Risk 2 has been deleted (I assume it has also had a MC). Were those accounts run differently to the Max Risk 1 and PAMM accounts?

Max Risk II is end with a profit of $518. still win.