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Author Topic: ORDequity PAMM-COPY : 50% MONTHLY Gain, only 8% DD : REVERSAL TRADING ALGORHYTM  (Read 5269 times)

Offline bismillahwd

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Hello traders,
Dont worry, it just another trading day.
We will back to high water mark very soon.

From our start trading, we having a drawdown last night for the firs time.
Its managable and calculatable from our system walkforward analysist, portfolio analysist,
and tons of backtest that we been thru. Fundamentally and Technically.
The system could handle this drawdown and recovered fast too.

Last night it happened during the sudden news release on AUD curency.
Even tough the price went back up for GBPAUD, but we dont rely on HOLD and PRAY

This trade build by tight discipline and rules, thousand hours of market calculation.
So whenever we had chance to exit with small losses during the EUROPEAN MARKET OPEN,
We took the small price, since we always had the BIG PRIZE at the end.

Nb : Actually this scenario, is already calculated and discussed on some forum, captured talk bellow :)

So, chill, we will having our profits back Very soon

Happy Trading, Happy Profit






PAMM :
https://www.alpari.org/strategy/ORD-Equity
https://alpari.finance/ru/invest/pamm/491907/#pamm-return

SIGNAL :
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/analysis/ordequity3xrisk/207352

https://www.zulutrade.com/trader/128850

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+My

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My


IMPORTANT UPDATE

updated announcement for signal copier :
i put info too in Signal Start Info :


"Hope u are using the most similar broker to get price feeds as master copier

note : Alpari RU and Alpari INT are similar feeds, Peppertsone and ICmarkets is good also, Maybe Tickmill too.

Just check slippage and ping times in Slippage Tab in here (upsthere)
Alpari Int (Risk Moderate)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+Page#!tab=slippage


But this one is better :
Alpari RU (Risk 3 Times)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My#!tab=slippage"

Offline bismillahwd

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worry not traders, we only had rough weeks, from my 13 years experience beeing profitable monthly. The drawdown is the most psychological reason for traders investor or any business will failed of succes.


system beeing re-optimized to exit more efficiently by close pips  at rollover moment that we got slippage even by TP position hit.

The exit indicators, not responding fast due to rollover spreads and price movement.
But we had it covered now. For trade copier to get better price at entry and exit. with +4-5 pips better than we ussually had before.

So even slippage happened. We still had profits.

That makes us entry and exit trades more efficiently, and faster than ussual.
Worry not about ping times too. Becaus we are not HFT system.

We just reversal trade system, that been working thru since 2008 until now.

And the fundamental side also watched closely now. This week we encountered with AUD and CAD distraction. So we wouldnt took position againts the major trend.

And thus we had other profitable PAIRS like EURJPY, GBPUSD, EURGBP that could be more predictably it movement.
We also dumped unprofitable pairs like GBPCHF, and lowering the risk on CAD related pairs, until we could see USD CAD ranging more slowly.

Technicly, algorithmycly, and fundamentaly we improved and adapt.
So, Stay Chill. I had bigger fund also with this system.
We should back on profits soon.

You could see Huge account like DOOR ECN systems. when they got drawdown people screams out and jump out the boat.
But now we could see, who stay on the boat that always continously improve they made it to the PROFIT LAND.

Buckle Up. Risk managed corectly
Then profits come thru.

Happy Trading,

Happy Profits






PAMM :
https://www.alpari.org/strategy/ORD-Equity
https://alpari.finance/ru/invest/pamm/491907/#pamm-return

SIGNAL :
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/analysis/ordequity3xrisk/207352

https://www.zulutrade.com/trader/128850

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+My

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My


IMPORTANT UPDATE

updated announcement for signal copier :
i put info too in Signal Start Info :


"Hope u are using the most similar broker to get price feeds as master copier

note : Alpari RU and Alpari INT are similar feeds, Peppertsone and ICmarkets is good also, Maybe Tickmill too.

Just check slippage and ping times in Slippage Tab in here (upsthere)
Alpari Int (Risk Moderate)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+Page#!tab=slippage


But this one is better :
Alpari RU (Risk 3 Times)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My#!tab=slippage"

Offline bismillahwd

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    • https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
On master account, the profit is going back up normally



But i found that the RISK 3 PAMM, is heavy on slippage and SWAP.
IDK why its happening very OFTEN now.
Might be cause the bigger lot.

 
Thats differ the result from the Master Account Risk 1 vs Risk 3.



Im considering, this day we making adjustment on slippage for the RISK 3 TIMES account.
This account will be heavily optimized for the ORDER system. To the limit the broker allowed.

We've found the glitch on LOG journal.



And will be watched more closedly.

Tomorow will be different for this risk 3x account.







PAMM :
https://www.alpari.org/strategy/ORD-Equity
https://alpari.finance/ru/invest/pamm/491907/#pamm-return

SIGNAL :
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/analysis/ordequity3xrisk/207352

https://www.zulutrade.com/trader/128850

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+My

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My


IMPORTANT UPDATE

updated announcement for signal copier :
i put info too in Signal Start Info :


"Hope u are using the most similar broker to get price feeds as master copier

note : Alpari RU and Alpari INT are similar feeds, Peppertsone and ICmarkets is good also, Maybe Tickmill too.

Just check slippage and ping times in Slippage Tab in here (upsthere)
Alpari Int (Risk Moderate)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+Page#!tab=slippage


But this one is better :
Alpari RU (Risk 3 Times)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My#!tab=slippage"

Offline bismillahwd

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    • https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
On master account, the profit is going back up normally



But i found that the RISK 3 PAMM, is heavy on slippage and SWAP.
IDK why its happening very OFTEN now.
Might be cause the bigger lot.

 
Thats differ the result from the Master Account Risk 1 vs Risk 3.



Im considering, this day we making adjustment on slippage for the RISK 3 TIMES account.
This account will be heavily optimized for the ORDER system. To the limit the broker allowed.

We've found the glitch on LOG journal.



And will be watched more closedly.

Tomorow will be different for this risk 3x account.


Happy profits, happy new development


Hi traders,

We've manage the slippage problem now :)


The normal Risk Account, had been going to new high period im writing this news.

So does good news for 3xTimes risk account also had eliminate slippage problem too.



The key is New development keeping up always with market change



And smart move who invest in drawdown area, its the same as stock buying,
buy when people fear,



Because its the moment when stock company working hard to recover
Does the trader working hard to redevelop the system.



Welcome on board



Happy trading,
Happy Profits






PAMM :
https://www.alpari.org/strategy/ORD-Equity
https://alpari.finance/ru/invest/pamm/491907/#pamm-return

SIGNAL :
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/analysis/ordequity3xrisk/207352

https://www.zulutrade.com/trader/128850

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+My

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My


IMPORTANT UPDATE

updated announcement for signal copier :
i put info too in Signal Start Info :


"Hope u are using the most similar broker to get price feeds as master copier

note : Alpari RU and Alpari INT are similar feeds, Peppertsone and ICmarkets is good also, Maybe Tickmill too.

Just check slippage and ping times in Slippage Tab in here (upsthere)
Alpari Int (Risk Moderate)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+Page#!tab=slippage


But this one is better :
Alpari RU (Risk 3 Times)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My#!tab=slippage"

Offline bismillahwd

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  • Private Trader Still - Hedge Fund Soon
    • https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
Dear Traders, Investors

Its been a good week for us reaching New High with very satisfiying Results

We done handling the slippage issue, as market liquidity change, we should adapt faster than others

Curency Pairs Portfolio rebalancing also adapt to fundamental current condition

Thats whats make our algo trading keep running good.


As i believed, there is no PERFECT and GRAIL system.
The GRAIL is our ability to adapt back to back with live market condition.

Thats why i always said, never sell my EA, because who didnt do "adapt" will be left behind




Happy Weekend, Happy Profits


See you all next weeks, and Keep Pumping Pips  :)


NB : Hope our algo surprise gettin ready before next week trade session :)






PAMM :
https://www.alpari.org/strategy/ORD-Equity
https://alpari.finance/ru/invest/pamm/491907/#pamm-return

SIGNAL :
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/analysis/ordequity3xrisk/207352

https://www.zulutrade.com/trader/128850

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+My

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My


IMPORTANT UPDATE

updated announcement for signal copier :
i put info too in Signal Start Info :


"Hope u are using the most similar broker to get price feeds as master copier

note : Alpari RU and Alpari INT are similar feeds, Peppertsone and ICmarkets is good also, Maybe Tickmill too.

Just check slippage and ping times in Slippage Tab in here (upsthere)
Alpari Int (Risk Moderate)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+Page#!tab=slippage


But this one is better :
Alpari RU (Risk 3 Times)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My#!tab=slippage"

Offline bismillahwd

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New PAIRS Introduced


Hi traders, investors.

We are bussy to utilizing a new pairs last week, so we not updating news lately like usually before.

We are introducing new pairs for diversification, its been filtered and optimized extensively since the system running.
Ussually we are using most european cross pair that in the past most people using.

But we now running USD related pair that pushed the drawdown to the limit, and using multi tickdata price feeds to optimized.
The pair analyzed fundamental off USD related pair 4-6 hours before it tooks trade.

So does the Crosspair beeing re-optimzed too for using multiple tickprice feeds from multiple brokers, so we could agregate the system more robustly

We would see lesser trade like eurchf and gbpaud with more probability,
But we would see more trades too from USD related pairs like EURUSD to USDCAD

Our goals it build the system as robust as posible for long run,
not tons of profits in one night and bad news in other day :D
But at least 3-4 in a month fundamentally,
we could see a tons of profit in a single night as we had before multiple times.


Chill

Happy trading, happy profits


Its a marathon,






PAMM :
https://www.alpari.org/strategy/ORD-Equity
https://alpari.finance/ru/invest/pamm/491907/#pamm-return

SIGNAL :
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/analysis/ordequity3xrisk/207352

https://www.zulutrade.com/trader/128850

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+My

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My


IMPORTANT UPDATE

updated announcement for signal copier :
i put info too in Signal Start Info :


"Hope u are using the most similar broker to get price feeds as master copier

note : Alpari RU and Alpari INT are similar feeds, Peppertsone and ICmarkets is good also, Maybe Tickmill too.

Just check slippage and ping times in Slippage Tab in here (upsthere)
Alpari Int (Risk Moderate)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+Page#!tab=slippage


But this one is better :
Alpari RU (Risk 3 Times)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My#!tab=slippage"

Offline littlemax

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Hi There,
I subscribed to your signal on Signalstart with a small account at 1:1 ratio, I found quite a large variation from your results using IC Markets raw spread account, which I thought would be compatible. Results often around half the pips overall on any day. Trades which closed around roll over time were the worst performers, sometimes due to swap rates or small pip count, often closing in loss when yours were in profit. Swaps can be an issue for small pip profit trades.

I'm not sure what differences there are between your Alpari spreads and IC Markets, or differences at rollover between brokers, but it doesn't appear to be very compatible for copy trading. PAMM ac. would be ok I think, to avoid slippage, spread and rollover differences.

Also tried a demo account at Zulu starting 14/5 with $5000 which is now $4675
So I haven't really had much success with you signal, although your results look very good.

Offline bismillahwd

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    • https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
Hi There,
I subscribed to your signal on Signalstart with a small account at 1:1 ratio, I found quite a large variation from your results using IC Markets raw spread account, which I thought would be compatible. Results often around half the pips overall on any day. Trades which closed around roll over time were the worst performers, sometimes due to swap rates or small pip count, often closing in loss when yours were in profit. Swaps can be an issue for small pip profit trades.

I'm not sure what differences there are between your Alpari spreads and IC Markets, or differences at rollover between brokers, but it doesn't appear to be very compatible for copy trading. PAMM ac. would be ok I think, to avoid slippage, spread and rollover differences.

Also tried a demo account at Zulu starting 14/5 with $5000 which is now $4675
So I haven't really had much success with you signal, although your results look very good.

Hi mate,

Yes you are right, about the slippage and few brokers, im investigate it with ping times and tick feeds for a  different brokers.
But im not sure why ICMarkets also respond like that since their spreads and slippage etc world class.

I just opened also PAMM at FXopen, and their feeds is differ a bit with alpari. Now problem solved with Fxopen, we agregate the pricefeeds from different brokers.

I think the best results still with PAMM, or Signal Start but with same brokers

Everything happened during rollover hour, even when hit TP master account had those unfavourable slippage too.



We now trying to not close trades during that rollover hour, like this day, we gain much profit but close all trades before newyork session closed.

We plan also to agregate feeds from multiple famous brokers that most people used. So the results would be more better average trades.

About the slippage related to ping time i think we could choose from this list :
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My#!tab=slippage






PAMM :
https://www.alpari.org/strategy/ORD-Equity
https://alpari.finance/ru/invest/pamm/491907/#pamm-return

SIGNAL :
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/analysis/ordequity3xrisk/207352

https://www.zulutrade.com/trader/128850

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+My

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My


IMPORTANT UPDATE

updated announcement for signal copier :
i put info too in Signal Start Info :


"Hope u are using the most similar broker to get price feeds as master copier

note : Alpari RU and Alpari INT are similar feeds, Peppertsone and ICmarkets is good also, Maybe Tickmill too.

Just check slippage and ping times in Slippage Tab in here (upsthere)
Alpari Int (Risk Moderate)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+Page#!tab=slippage


But this one is better :
Alpari RU (Risk 3 Times)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My#!tab=slippage"

Offline littlemax

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Thanks for your reply

Offline jwatts7701

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You trade every day right through rollover? Are you crazy? lol. Not only will spreads destroy this on a copier, but swaps are gonna slaughter it as well. If you said, I am going to try to take the absolute worst time of every day to trade through, and the most volatile, and the most variable between brokers, for widened spreads, disconnects, and swaps. Then you found it! This was what caused the downfall of best scalper as well at ICM combined with an over influx of traders running it on ICMs facade spreads with no market depth and them not wanting to lose. I would try to focus on trading NOT through the daily roll, if you want to achieve any kind of sustainability, or longevity with this. The pricing between brokers will vary huge as well during the first 30 mins after rollover.

Offline bismillahwd

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I trade whenever there is probality to profits


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PAMM :
https://www.alpari.org/strategy/ORD-Equity
https://alpari.finance/ru/invest/pamm/491907/#pamm-return

SIGNAL :
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/analysis/ordequity3xrisk/207352

https://www.zulutrade.com/trader/128850

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+My

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My


IMPORTANT UPDATE

updated announcement for signal copier :
i put info too in Signal Start Info :


"Hope u are using the most similar broker to get price feeds as master copier

note : Alpari RU and Alpari INT are similar feeds, Peppertsone and ICmarkets is good also, Maybe Tickmill too.

Just check slippage and ping times in Slippage Tab in here (upsthere)
Alpari Int (Risk Moderate)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+Page#!tab=slippage


But this one is better :
Alpari RU (Risk 3 Times)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My#!tab=slippage"

Offline taru

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I have been testing the 3x signal on a live IC Markets account. Stats for the past three weeks (since 04 May 2021) are as follows:

Master Account
Trades = 125
Pips = 133.1

Follower Account
Trades = 124
Pips = -3.7

This is clearly not working and the main reason is the slippage and spreads around the rollover time.

Offline bismillahwd

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NB : Slippage must be considered well with your brokers feeds.

Other Account with better slippage and ping time to most brokers is :

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ORDExhaust/alpari-pamm-risk-3-times/8355890



Slippage table :
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Profile#!tab=slippage






PAMM :
https://www.alpari.org/strategy/ORD-Equity
https://alpari.finance/ru/invest/pamm/491907/#pamm-return

SIGNAL :
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/
https://ordequity.signalstart.com/analysis/ordequity3xrisk/207352

https://www.zulutrade.com/trader/128850

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+My

https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My


IMPORTANT UPDATE

updated announcement for signal copier :
i put info too in Signal Start Info :


"Hope u are using the most similar broker to get price feeds as master copier

note : Alpari RU and Alpari INT are similar feeds, Peppertsone and ICmarkets is good also, Maybe Tickmill too.

Just check slippage and ping times in Slippage Tab in here (upsthere)
Alpari Int (Risk Moderate)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/975270?source=Site+Signals+Page#!tab=slippage


But this one is better :
Alpari RU (Risk 3 Times)
https://www.mql5.com/en/signals/989449?source=Site+Signals+My#!tab=slippage"

Offline jwatts7701

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I have been testing the 3x signal on a live IC Markets account. Stats for the past three weeks (since 04 May 2021) are as follows:

Master Account
Trades = 125
Pips = 133.1

Follower Account
Trades = 124
Pips = -3.7

This is clearly not working and the main reason is the slippage and spreads around the rollover time.

Similar results here Taru. Unsubscribing. Bismill, let us know when or if you ever figure out how to trade AROUND rollover, NOT DIRECTLY THROUGH it. Until you do that, the strategy unfortunately doesn't have much of a future.

Offline kennyhubbard

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I have been testing the 3x signal on a live IC Markets account. Stats for the past three weeks (since 04 May 2021) are as follows:

Master Account
Trades = 125
Pips = 133.1

Follower Account
Trades = 124
Pips = -3.7

This is clearly not working and the main reason is the slippage and spreads around the rollover time.

Similar results here Taru. Unsubscribing. Bismill, let us know when or if you ever figure out how to trade AROUND rollover, NOT DIRECTLY THROUGH it. Until you do that, the strategy unfortunately doesn't have much of a future.

Strategy works just fine....it's the copying that you are struggling with. Here are the PAMM results..

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