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Title: forex cyborg
Post by: nick3232 on July 24, 2017, 04:10:04 PM
http://www.forexcyborg.com/

any opinion on that one ?

ok found some answers

ure! Forex Cyborg is a very complex and innovative trading robot we developed in the past 2 years.
Forex Cyborg is a multicurrency (pre-)asian scalper that trade 14 currency pairs at the same time. It start trading at the end of the american and start of pacific trading session when market players close their positions and short-term trend reversal occurs. It trade between 18:30-23:30 GMT.
It use 5 different exit logics to find the best exit point. Forex Cyborg use TP and SL (50 - 120 pips depending on the chosen pair) but will close more than 99% of the trades earlier. It will reach this targets only in unusual market conditions and is there as a insureance to limit the risk and make it calculable.
Forex Cyborg does not use any risky technique like grid or martingale. It open max. 1 position per currency pair.
The achilles heel of every multicurrency asian scalper is, that they open multiple positions of the same currency in different currency pairs and upper the risk in case of a strong trend. Sometimes up to 4-6 positions at the same time.
We are proud to deliver a solution for this problem with our innovative 'currency correlation risk-manager'.
It scans the open positions and block multiple positions of the same pair. Per default Forex Cyborg allow max. 2 positions of the same pair (it can be changed in the parameters). A small example to explain it: If Forex Cyborg already opened a EURCAD - sell and a CADCHF - buy, than it will block USDCAD - sell or GBPCAD - sell, until one of the two opened order are closed. GBPCAD - buy would be possible in this case.
Another interesting fact about Forex Cyborg can be found in the stats of the live account (and in the backtests). We managed to archive a greater average win (pips) compared to the average loss (pips), while we have a winning rate over 75%.

sure that needs more time to figure out the performance
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: corre971 on July 24, 2017, 04:26:11 PM
http://www.forexcyborg.com/

any opinion on that one ?
It is another night scalper, so very sensible to spread, execution, news...
But first of all with a very short trading history (2 and half months)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nick3232 on July 24, 2017, 04:28:02 PM
in the same category of forex real profit

will keep an eye on it

sure that need an excellent broker well suited for asian trading
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on July 24, 2017, 04:38:08 PM
http://www.forexcyborg.com/

any opinion on that one ?
It is another night scalper, so very sensible to spread, execution, news...
But first of all with a very short trading history (2 and half months)

Yes, one to keep an eye on. Give it another three-months. :o

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on July 24, 2017, 05:27:32 PM

wow, very interesting concept. watching globally across.

there is some wicked logic in that one.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: donbon2 on July 24, 2017, 10:20:10 PM
audcad euraud eurcad gbpaud  these are all correlated - so would hate to have alot of positions and then AUD data comes out - sure can make a profit but could also wipe out an account -- also NZD data.

gbpaud on a bad day moves 200 points in one direction.

good idea but feel like the protections just aren't there for the long run.

It is always the case with EA's - noone wants to stop out and reduce account equity but hedging or offsetting positions can snowball and ultimately a stop is a better option.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on July 24, 2017, 11:49:07 PM
audcad euraud eurcad gbpaud  these are all correlated - so would hate to have alot of positions and then AUD data comes out - sure can make a profit but could also wipe out an account -- also NZD data.

gbpaud on a bad day moves 200 points in one direction.

good idea but feel like the protections just aren't there for the long run.

It is always the case with EA's - noone wants to stop out and reduce account equity but hedging or offsetting positions can snowball and ultimately a stop is a better option.

yes true,  a data comes out during asia times. it might have a news filter for that, we dont know.

upon looking at trades it is similar to the one donna runs.

this one also allows for quite a large dd per trade, seen up to 85 pips, before closing in green.

also some trades last seconds, so that means limit orders are placed, and if thats not the case then a super fast connection is required.

tp values are quite high so thats nice for a scalper.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nick3232 on August 12, 2017, 07:59:42 PM
follow up

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-fxpig/2168587
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: donbon2 on August 14, 2017, 12:55:48 PM
like i thought - 70 -50 all in these audchf gbpaud euraud

this isn't going to last - I watch these morning sessions like a hawk due to using best scalper and other strategies like that .. just too risky to have aud cross and nzd cross in early mornings.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on August 14, 2017, 12:58:47 PM
don,

also dont forget august 1st all patterns changed once again, especially for scalpers bigggg time.

this fall it should go back to the usual i assume.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: donbon2 on August 14, 2017, 01:04:41 PM
I get that -- but my point is this can never win long term in the real market .. better off looking for something else imo.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on August 14, 2017, 01:24:48 PM
I get that -- but my point is this can never win long term in the real market .. better off looking for something else imo.

there are some scalpers trading a crosses quite well, see ninjatrainer.

it has a quite decent history by now.

and best scalper on fx germany is killing it.

but me personally dont like scalpers, especially when they hold over the weekend. the times are simply to uncertain anymore.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: WolfGUN on August 14, 2017, 03:07:41 PM
As every auto-trading tool - explosive ::)
Myfxbook shows a dying swan.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on December 23, 2017, 10:57:04 AM
Hey guys,
I just found this discussion about our EA and I would like to give some information:

Some guys wrote about the correlation - problem: We solved this problem in Forex Cyborg.

The achilles heel of every multicurrency asian scalper is, that they open multiple positions of the same currency in different currency pairs and upper the risk in case of a strong trend. Sometimes up to 4-6 positions at the same time.
We are proud to deliver a solution for this problem with our innovative ‘currency correlation risk-manager’.
It scans the open positions and block multiple positions of the same currency. Per default Forex Cyborg allow max. 2 positions of the same currency (it can be changed in the parameters). A small example to explain it: If Forex Cyborg already opened a EURCAD – sell and a CADCHF – buy, than it will block USDCAD – sell or GBPCAD – sell, until one of the two opened order are closed. GBPCAD – buy would be possible in this case.



We want to celebrate a new equity high on all our published account and to give you all a christmas gift.

We offer a 15% discount for a limited time. You can find all details on our website www.forexcyborg.com

Forex Cyborg has proven to be a profitable Expert Advisor and managed to get back on track even on a historical DD.
We will release version v1.1 in about 1 week with improvements + the GBPCHF pair. So you will be able to trade on 15 pairs.

Forex Cyborg is profitable already on 7 of 8 month in the forward tests on FXPIG.

By the way: Forexgermany has a undependent forward test if you are interested: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexgermany/forex-cyborg/2178360

As you can see this EA can be used on several brokers (we are running 3 accounts + forexgermany one more)


I would like to answer all your questions, so feel free to write here or a PM


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: donbon2 on December 26, 2017, 10:41:26 PM
I can see you have made changes to reduce those killer mornings and it has helped your performance to be much more stable now.

I think the problem for me is the pricing - you want 500 EUR for something that will make 20% a year based on FG account (he has made 10% in 6 months)

there are EAS that make 120% that cost 250  .. that also in the long run are safer than yours ... you have more work to do to really make this value for money.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on December 26, 2017, 11:46:26 PM
I can see you have made changes to reduce those killer mornings and it has helped your performance to be much more stable now.

I think the problem for me is the pricing - you want 500 EUR for something that will make 20% a year based on FG account (he has made 10% in 6 months)

there are EAS that make 120% that cost 250  .. that also in the long run are safer than yours ... you have more work to do to really make this value for money.

Yup, every developer has jumped on the "gold chariot" ever since CabEx started taking people for a ride at 500$+; most "riders to nowhere", took the bate, now they are selling their copies for the real price +/- 100$.  :P

Regards, 8)
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: donbon2 on December 26, 2017, 11:50:08 PM
well they had to make changes after the disaster a few months ago - great they did -- but the results are nowhere near where they should be.

this is my whole thing with building a proper smarter EA from the ground up -- you simply won't need to bother with overpriced toys ... as all these 500 purchases add up over time.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on December 28, 2017, 09:23:32 PM
I can see you have made changes to reduce those killer mornings and it has helped your performance to be much more stable now.

I think the problem for me is the pricing - you want 500 EUR for something that will make 20% a year based on FG account (he has made 10% in 6 months)

there are EAS that make 120% that cost 250  .. that also in the long run are safer than yours ... you have more work to do to really make this value for money.

You can buy Forex Cyborg already for 255€ and not 500€. I don't think this is overpriced.

And I don't think the gains are the best value to compare the systems, because they are absolutely related to the risk per trade you use. If one expert is running with the double risk of another and make 30% instead of 20%, than this does not mean that the EA that made 30% is better.

More interesting is the amount of pips because that would mean that, if you trade all strategies on the same risk level, the EA with the highest pip value will produce the highest gain.

ForexGermany just running Forex Cyborg on a relative low risk setup.
I compared some asian scalper to give a overview. I made a custom timeframe from 10.07.2017-today (that was the date he set up Forex Cyborg) for every EA to compare the results:

Forex Cyborg: +979.10 with 301 trades
Best Scalper: +446.10 with 301 trades
Forex Real Profit EA: +901.90 with 344 trades
Easy Walker FX: +278.50 with 442 trades
SFE Night Scalper: +879.40 with 1308 trades

As you can see Forex Cyborg made the most pips in this timeframe with only 301 trades (which mean you pay less commission compared to the most other EAs I compared here). So I would be really interested which EA for 250€ are better. On long term what matter is the amount of pips in our view.

Another important factor in our view is that we don't oversold our EA. This could lead to too many same entries and that could be a negative factor too. Our clients are not the guys that try to double a $200 account in 2-3 months. We search for real investors that understand that Forex Cyborg is really worth every €

But who knows... maybe we will lower the price someday too, but currently we don't think that it is overpriced :-)


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: donbon2 on December 28, 2017, 11:03:07 PM
you must be running a different setup to FX Germany - at first I thought it was double the size but obviously not -- his DD is double yours and has 2 losing months to your one

not unusual as you probably updated or something ... but if FX germany set it up this way that is what I trust - he has alot of credibility - as he has zero interference with the EAs.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on December 29, 2017, 06:54:04 PM
you must be running a different setup to FX Germany - at first I thought it was double the size but obviously not -- his DD is double yours and has 2 losing months to your one

not unusual as you probably updated or something ... but if FX germany set it up this way that is what I trust - he has alot of credibility - as he has zero interference with the EAs.

There is only one difference between the setup of FX Germany and mine: He is running Forex Cyborg with the default risk (3,5% per trade) and I run it with 4,5%.
We use the same version and in fact I didn't changed the EA on the forward accounts since the beginning.
There was only one trading session, my VPS provider had some problems. But beside this the results are only different because of different broker spreads / ticks. They are very important for such a EA.

We published 3 forward tests on 3 different brokers but all with the same settings (default, except the risk per trade of 4,5%). So they are very good compareable.

As you can see we had 2 loosing months on the FinPro Broker too: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-finpro-for-us/2190377
Most stable seem to be Darwinex: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-darwinex/2184469
Longest history is on the FXPIG account: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-fxpig/2168587


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: donbon2 on January 01, 2018, 11:08:28 PM
the problem with that is it had a 30-35% drop or something - so that is automatically an EA that wouldn't consider.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 02, 2018, 07:36:57 AM
the problem with that is it had a 30-35% drop or something - so that is automatically an EA that wouldn't consider.

Thank you again for your feedback. Yes we had a drop, but never 30-35%

It was 24,91% on FXPIG (15,13% on Darwinex and 11,96% on FinPro)
And as I said, we use a higher risk than the default settings.

ForexGermany use the default settings and he had a drop of 6,31%
If don't see the problem here  :)

Every EA has drawdown phases. More important is that the EA is able to recover + reaching new highs.

By the way: only 13 days left for the 15% discount.
We are already up with around +2% this year!
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 09, 2018, 09:28:40 AM
Today we published two new accounts at a new broker (Circle Markets) with moderate and high risk settings.

See here:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets/2378195 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets/2378195)
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets-high/2378197 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets-high/2378197)

Our main account at FXPIG already generated +5,94% this year with +157,1 pips:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-fxpig/2168587 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-fxpig/2168587)

Our christmas offer will end in 6 days (15.1.2018), so hurry up to get Forex Cyborg at a discounted price.


I wish everyone a great trading week!
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on January 09, 2018, 02:16:27 PM
I am wondering if the Aussie pairs are suffering from the same problem as Best Free Scalper, getting caught in the news during an otherwise quiet session. They don't look to be the most profitable pairs and perhaps should not be used for scalping. I am assuming this is another Asian scalper.
As for price, well I guess it is all relative, it is high until is has a long track record. Even a $99 EA is way to high if it drains your account. A $1000 EA that always wins could be viewed as a great deal. For now yours is new and the failure rate is extremely high so I think you should sell it cheaper at the beginning and raise it as the history shows its worth.
As for your comments about 'searching for investors' and 'not overselling' the EA, I call BS on that and I am not referring to a popular robot with the same initials. Those comments don't hold any real meaning here. We have heard it all before and the proof is in the pudding as the saying goes.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 09, 2018, 04:29:11 PM
Thank you for your feedback.

I am wondering if the Aussie pairs are suffering from the same problem as Best Free Scalper, getting caught in the news during an otherwise quiet session. They don't look to be the most profitable pairs and perhaps should not be used for scalping. I am assuming this is another Asian scalper.

Yes it trades during the asian session too, but the trading hours start at 18:30 GMT for the first AUD-Pair. The most Asian scalper starting 1-2 hours before or right at the beginning of the asian session. And we are not fixed on the asian session at all. If a trade needs more time, than we just let it run. We have different entry and exit rules (5 different exit rules). And as you can see the average win is nearly at the same level as the average loss per trade (in the backtests + forward tests)
Overall the backtests and the forward tests showing a positive result for the AUD-Pairs on long term when using Forex Cyborg, even without a news filter.
I can't say anything regarding Best Free Scalper as I didn't use/test it.

As for price, well I guess it is all relative, it is high until is has a long track record. Even a $99 EA is way to high if it drains your account. A $1000 EA that always wins could be viewed as a great deal. For now yours is new and the failure rate is extremely high so I think you should sell it cheaper at the beginning and raise it as the history shows its worth.
As for your comments about 'searching for investors' and 'not overselling' the EA, I call BS on that and I am not referring to a popular robot with the same initials. Those comments don't hold any real meaning here. We have heard it all before and the proof is in the pudding as the saying goes.

BS trade only 2-3 pairs as far as I know. It seems the trade logic is not suiteable to trade pairs with higher spreads.
Forex Cyborg has a average (over all pairs) win of over 9 pips with a expectancy of 3.4 pips (at FXPIG). So it seems to be very different to BS (but BS seem to be a good scalper too, don't get me wrong).
But as you can see Forex Cyborg is currently running profitable at 5 different brokers.


For now yours is new and the failure rate is extremely high so I think you should sell it cheaper at the beginning and raise it as the history shows its worth.

To be honest: I don't think that it is a too high price. Yes there are many cheaper EAs and maybe there are 1-2 better/compareable EAs that you can buy for 200-300 bucks, but I don't know any asian scalper with a higher expectancy rate + higher average win-rate vs the average loss-rate + is able to trade 15 different pairs + can provide that good backtests. We build something more stable and will raise the price once we build a longer forward history.

We don't want to promote Forex Cyborg as just another asian scalper, where people are going to compare in the way like "ok... Asian scalper 1 cost me $250... Asian scalper 2 cost me $350... Because both trade at the asian session, I just take the cheaper one..."
We want to have the most advanced available asian scalper on the market. It will need some more months (maybe years) to prove it, but you will see us here (if you will be around too).



Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petermatt on January 09, 2018, 08:32:57 PM
the problem with that is it had a 30-35% drop or something - so that is automatically an EA that wouldn't consider.
Thank you again for your feedback. Yes we had a drop, but never 30-35%
It was 24,91% on FXPIG (15,13% on Darwinex and 11,96% on FinPro)
And as I said, we use a higher risk than the default settings.
ForexGermany use the default settings and he had a drop of 6,31%
If don't see the problem here  :)
Every EA has drawdown phases. More important is that the EA is able to recover + reaching new highs.

FxPIG - Equity Growth July 24 - 36.57%  Equity Growth August 30 - 2.55%. Unless I'm mistaken that's a drop in Equity (loss) of 34.02% in  one month?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on January 09, 2018, 09:10:36 PM

 I don't know any asian scalper with a higher expectancy rate + higher average win-rate vs the average loss-rate + is able to trade 15 different pairs + can provide that good backtests.
This one is pretty close at $159.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/evonightea/2252381
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 09, 2018, 10:02:45 PM
the problem with that is it had a 30-35% drop or something - so that is automatically an EA that wouldn't consider.
Thank you again for your feedback. Yes we had a drop, but never 30-35%
It was 24,91% on FXPIG (15,13% on Darwinex and 11,96% on FinPro)
And as I said, we use a higher risk than the default settings.
ForexGermany use the default settings and he had a drop of 6,31%
If don't see the problem here  :)
Every EA has drawdown phases. More important is that the EA is able to recover + reaching new highs.

FxPIG - Equity Growth July 24 - 36.57%  Equity Growth August 30 - 2.55%. Unless I'm mistaken that's a drop in Equity (loss) of 34.02% in  one month?

No that is relative 24,91% :-)
If you have +1000% on a account and you have a loss about 10% than your account will go down to 900%, right?
In this case you don't have a 100% downdown. You have a 10% drawdown

Have a look at the "Drawdown"-sheet at the myfxbook account:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-fxpig/2168587

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 09, 2018, 10:06:16 PM

 I don't know any asian scalper with a higher expectancy rate + higher average win-rate vs the average loss-rate + is able to trade 15 different pairs + can provide that good backtests.
This one is pretty close at $159.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/evonightea/2252381


Yeah I know EvoNight. This EA is only able to trade 6 pairs and is only optimized for a short period + I made 99% backtests of it. Some pair fail here. And this EA failed very hard before 09/17.
I don't think that it is a stable system on long term, but we will see. :-)

Btw.: if you choose the same timeframe at Forex Cyborg, you will see that Forex Cyborg made a expectancy of 4.8 pips.
Average Win:    9.11 pips / €9.77
Average Loss:    -4.32 pips / -€7.29
And a max. DD below 4%
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on January 09, 2018, 10:55:58 PM
the problem with that is it had a 30-35% drop or something - so that is automatically an EA that wouldn't consider.
Thank you again for your feedback. Yes we had a drop, but never 30-35%
It was 24,91% on FXPIG (15,13% on Darwinex and 11,96% on FinPro)
And as I said, we use a higher risk than the default settings.
ForexGermany use the default settings and he had a drop of 6,31%
If don't see the problem here  :)
Every EA has drawdown phases. More important is that the EA is able to recover + reaching new highs.

FxPIG - Equity Growth July 24 - 36.57%  Equity Growth August 30 - 2.55%. Unless I'm mistaken that's a drop in Equity (loss) of 34.02% in  one month?

No that is relative 24,91% :-)
If you have +1000% on a account and you have a loss about 10% than your account will go down to 900%, right?
In this case you don't have a 100% downdown. You have a 10% drawdown

Have a look at the "Drawdown"-sheet at the myfxbook account:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-fxpig/2168587

i am also stumped by this, since myfxbook does not show the dd correctly in this case.

account start equity was 2k, then it gained to a high of 2.7k, then it went into dd all the way back down to almost 2k. so 2.7k minus 25% equals about 2k.

so in my book highest dd to date should show 25%

the total gains, are showing correctly at 50% there abouts. so seeing that as yearly results which its not quite still over 4 months to go, gaining 50% on 25% dd is not bad for a yearly result.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 10, 2018, 07:35:36 AM
the problem with that is it had a 30-35% drop or something - so that is automatically an EA that wouldn't consider.
Thank you again for your feedback. Yes we had a drop, but never 30-35%
It was 24,91% on FXPIG (15,13% on Darwinex and 11,96% on FinPro)
And as I said, we use a higher risk than the default settings.
ForexGermany use the default settings and he had a drop of 6,31%
If don't see the problem here  :)
Every EA has drawdown phases. More important is that the EA is able to recover + reaching new highs.

FxPIG - Equity Growth July 24 - 36.57%  Equity Growth August 30 - 2.55%. Unless I'm mistaken that's a drop in Equity (loss) of 34.02% in  one month?

No that is relative 24,91% :-)
If you have +1000% on a account and you have a loss about 10% than your account will go down to 900%, right?
In this case you don't have a 100% downdown. You have a 10% drawdown

Have a look at the "Drawdown"-sheet at the myfxbook account:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-fxpig/2168587

i am also stumped by this, since myfxbook does not show the dd correctly in this case.

account start equity was 2k, then it gained to a high of 2.7k, then it went into dd all the way back down to almost 2k. so 2.7k minus 25% equals about 2k.

so in my book highest dd to date should show 25%

the total gains, are showing correctly at 50% there abouts. so seeing that as yearly results which its not quite still over 4 months to go, gaining 50% on 25% dd is not bad for a yearly result.


Thank you for your feedback.
Yes you are right.

Btw.: Your impule-strategy is really good. I like to watch your results the last weeks/months.
I hope it continue to be successful in 2018
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on January 10, 2018, 02:04:06 PM
Myfxbook does not always show DD correctly and sometimes just moves for no reason. I have contacted them about this before on my own account and they reset something only to see it strangely move again the next week. You have to pay attention to what you are looking at to be sure. Donna's BS account is not showing correctly for example, it shows just 10% DD but of course it was over 40% and looking like it was going bust at the time.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on January 10, 2018, 02:33:27 PM
Myfxbook does not always show DD correctly and sometimes just moves for no reason. I have contacted them about this before on my own account and they reset something only to see it strangely move again the next week. You have to pay attention to what you are looking at to be sure. Donna's BS account is not showing correctly for example, it shows just 10% DD but of course it was over 40% and looking like it was going bust at the time.

I find it much more accurate to open the Drawdown tab above the graph in fxbook. For instance on Donna's BS it shows 41% DD instead of the 10.94% DD shown below Monthly.

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 10, 2018, 02:47:32 PM
Myfxbook does not always show DD correctly and sometimes just moves for no reason. I have contacted them about this before on my own account and they reset something only to see it strangely move again the next week. You have to pay attention to what you are looking at to be sure. Donna's BS account is not showing correctly for example, it shows just 10% DD but of course it was over 40% and looking like it was going bust at the time.

The real drawdowns can be found in the drawdown sheet at myfxbook (here the BS account of donnaforex):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3rie05u3wg5qxaa/donnaforex_bs.jpg (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3rie05u3wg5qxaa/donnaforex_bs.jpg)

I got over 20 active accounts at myfxbook and I can commit, that this calculation is correct in all my cases. But you are right: The new calculation on the left side is really confusing and not the real DD.

Here are the real drawdowns for the Forex Cyborg EA at FXPIG and Darwinex:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/a8hnsfolrpajggj/forexcyborg_fxpig.jpg (https://www.dropbox.com/s/a8hnsfolrpajggj/forexcyborg_fxpig.jpg)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/idagpbxz9qve9zv/forexcyborg_darwinex.jpg (https://www.dropbox.com/s/idagpbxz9qve9zv/forexcyborg_darwinex.jpg)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on January 10, 2018, 02:52:23 PM
Yes of course, that is also where I look to be sure and should have mentioned that too.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: alaali on January 10, 2018, 05:36:58 PM
what is the difference between the EA versions other than the currency pairs traded by each one of them?

Is it possible to upgrade later on by paying the difference?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 11, 2018, 03:18:29 PM
what is the difference between the EA versions other than the currency pairs traded by each one of them?

Is it possible to upgrade later on by paying the difference?

The only difference between the two EA versions are the tradeable pairs. This reflect the amount of trades, and the diversification.

And yes it is possible to upgrade later. Here are our current update prices:

1.) Upgrade small - upgrade by one package (Basic -> Standard, Standard -> Gold, Gold -> Premium): 150€
2.) Upgrade medium - upgrade by two packages (Basic -> Gold): 250€
3.) Upgrade full - Basic -> Premium: 300€


Version v1.1 is available and I will update all live-accounts this weekend.

I will post here later the improvements and the portofolio-charts.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: alstoner on January 11, 2018, 06:31:42 PM
Was curious so decided to take a punt, given the 30 day money back guarantee. Will keep everyone posted on my results
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 11, 2018, 06:58:24 PM
Was curious so decided to take a punt, given the 30 day money back guarantee. Will keep everyone posted on my results

Thank you for your trust!
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 12, 2018, 10:09:27 AM
Version v1.1 is ready for all customers.

The improvements:
- New pair: GBPCHF
- Fine tuning of nearly all pairs
- Improved exit rule for trades that are holding over the weekend and beeing closed on monday.

To show the improvements, I made a portfolio of v1.0 and of v1.1.
For a better comparison I all trades were executed with a fixed lot size of 1.0 (all tests are done with 99% dukascopy tick data, with commission and with variable spreads)

v1.0:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/grzviupjvk9efth/Forex_Cyborg_Portfolio_v1.0.png?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/grzviupjvk9efth/Forex_Cyborg_Portfolio_v1.0.png?dl=0)

v1.1:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dov8q24llj6p7u5/Forex_Cyborg_Portfolio_v1.1.png?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/dov8q24llj6p7u5/Forex_Cyborg_Portfolio_v1.1.png?dl=0)

As you can see, the highest DD is lower, more trades, higher profit factor and overall more profit.


I will update all live account this weekend.

Customers can contact us for the updated version.

For everyone that is interested: We still have a discount until the 15.1.2018 on our website.


I wish everyone a great weekend.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ivanvp on January 13, 2018, 03:46:32 PM

 I don't know any asian scalper with a higher expectancy rate + higher average win-rate vs the average loss-rate + is able to trade 15 different pairs + can provide that good backtests.
This one is pretty close at $159.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/evonightea/2252381


Yeah I know EvoNight. This EA is only able to trade 6 pairs and is only optimized for a short period + I made 99% backtests of it. Some pair fail here. And this EA failed very hard before 09/17.
I don't think that it is a stable system on long term, but we will see. :-)



You are not right: EvoNight haven't been optimized for any period ;) If you test since September 2017, you will get only losses too, but at Live - profit. You can test it at another pairs too, but not at tester. Here are trades from Live account for EvoNight since Feb 2017 for recommended 6 pairs:

(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F13%2F13-01-201817-42-33.md.jpg&hash=e72927a5c9b7ae80fe44087c308d0931) (http://fxpics.ru/image/ZknlT)
(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F13%2F13-01-201817-42-46.md.jpg&hash=25d1f6873c8d50e552741f37c0e65ef2) (http://fxpics.ru/image/ZklCK)

Yes, and all period at tester only losses :D

Any backtests for Night Scalper have a quality not more 50%. I had a system with amazing backtests, but at real perfomance not so good. Why? Because Dukascopy quotes are not so good for night scalping and ever for scalpers. So we can test this systems only at Live.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petersurrey on January 13, 2018, 05:58:09 PM
Welcome Forexcyborg and good to see a more realistic EA on this forum - can you please confirm how this differs to your fxpig PAMM; which has seen significant drawdown over the past few years (albeit with a decent overall return); and how the neural networks improve the performance longer term without changing the original system..? fxPIG's other PAMM night scalpers have not done so well recently...and can be a bit of a roller coaster ride...how does yours differ?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 13, 2018, 07:20:15 PM

 I don't know any asian scalper with a higher expectancy rate + higher average win-rate vs the average loss-rate + is able to trade 15 different pairs + can provide that good backtests.
This one is pretty close at $159.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/evonightea/2252381


Yeah I know EvoNight. This EA is only able to trade 6 pairs and is only optimized for a short period + I made 99% backtests of it. Some pair fail here. And this EA failed very hard before 09/17.
I don't think that it is a stable system on long term, but we will see. :-)



You are not right: EvoNight haven't been optimized for any period ;) If you test since September 2017, you will get only losses too, but at Live - profit. You can test it at another pairs too, but not at tester. Here are trades from Live account for EvoNight since Feb 2017 for recommended 6 pairs:

(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F13%2F13-01-201817-42-33.md.jpg&hash=e72927a5c9b7ae80fe44087c308d0931) (http://fxpics.ru/image/ZknlT)
(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F13%2F13-01-201817-42-46.md.jpg&hash=25d1f6873c8d50e552741f37c0e65ef2) (http://fxpics.ru/image/ZklCK)

Yes, and all period at tester only losses :D

Any backtests for Night Scalper have a quality not more 50%. I had a system with amazing backtests, but at real perfomance not so good. Why? Because Dukascopy quotes are not so good for night scalping and ever for scalpers. So we can test this systems only at Live.

I would ask myself the question why it differ so strong.
I know that (especially) asian tick scalper will always produce different results from broker to broker (as you can see in my 5 live accounts), but they are equal over all... Equal to backtests too. As you can see in the backtest the august was a negative month too.
But if I get negative results on backtests and only good results on the forward tests, than I would first dig deeper to find the difference / reason.
I think a good EA should be able to give good backtests and forward results. But that could be a philosophy question only if backtests are important or not...
As a investor I would ask myself: Is this EA only profitable at specific brokers? Are the spreads of Dukascopy too high for it? Is it flexible enough for my broker too?

But maybe I'm wrong... Let us see how both EA perform in the next 12 months. Both live results are too young in my opinion.
But I really wish you only the best. Please don't get me wrong. I know your other products and I think you are a great developer.
I hope you will be successful in 2018 too :-)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 13, 2018, 07:35:09 PM
Welcome Forexcyborg and good to see a more realistic EA on this forum - can you please confirm how this differs to your fxpig PAMM; which has seen significant drawdown over the past few years (albeit with a decent overall return); and how the neural networks improve the performance longer term without changing the original system..? fxPIG's other PAMM night scalpers have not done so well recently...and can be a bit of a roller coaster ride...how does yours differ?

Forex Cyborg use a complete different logic. The PAMM account is a mixed style (automatic + manual). The biggest drops (+ many good days) are results of manual intervention.
The most trades on the PAMM account are opened directly after the rollover time and mostly only for the first 30-50 minutes. Closing by TP or by time.
Forex Cyborg has a fixed TP and SL, but it will only very rarly hit one of those. Every trade has a fixed risk. The lot size is calculated by the SL that differ from pair to pair. The exit points are based on a point system of 5 different factors. Forex Cyborg trade bigger movements + had a much higher expectancy (in my view one of the most important statistics especially for asian scalpers) and is not too broker sensitive because the most trades are opened a good time before asian session starts, when the spreads are usually still good (the first trades could happen at 18:30 GMT). It trades not too often / not too small movements and is not a usual "BB"-indicator only asian scalper. To get the best entry, it use price action analysis too. That is the reason why you will see the some differences between the brokers...

Over all it is just a complete different development that will appear as a new PAMM account maybe in the future ;-)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ivanvp on January 14, 2018, 12:26:24 AM
I would ask myself the question why it differ so strong.
I know that (especially) asian tick scalper will always produce different results from broker to broker (as you can see in my 5 live accounts), but they are equal over all... Equal to backtests too. As you can see in the backtest the august was a negative month too.
But if I get negative results on backtests and only good results on the forward tests, than I would first dig deeper to find the difference / reason.
I think a good EA should be able to give good backtests and forward results. But that could be a philosophy question only if backtests are important or not...
As a investor I would ask myself: Is this EA only profitable at specific brokers? Are the spreads of Dukascopy too high for it? Is it flexible enough for my broker too?

But maybe I'm wrong... Let us see how both EA perform in the next 12 months. Both live results are too young in my opinion.
But I really wish you only the best. Please don't get me wrong. I know your other products and I think you are a great developer.
I hope you will be successful in 2018 too :-)

You are absolutelly not right:


Only a Dukascopy tests results are very bad. Yes, some trades at different brokers are different - but not critical (90% correlation by brokers).  If you will have a good results by Dukascopy backtests, it isn't a guarantee, that a forward will be good too. Maybe do you know free Asia scalper Generic? Perfect backtests, we had optimized a lot of sets with the TDS2 (also with the slippage, etc) - but at live results are poor.

Why? There are a lot of reasons. A lot of brokers will not give work for Asia scalpers, Dukascopy one of them. So if you are going to use this king of scalpers, you have to choise broker, which will give you to work.

I am creating Asia scalpers for some years and have a big experience with the testing, optimization and etc. Main is a forward. And EvoNight have a good perfomance at Live accounts at different brokers.

TDS2 and Dukascopy - are not a panacea, since the results are approximate for most scalpers - not only Asia. For mid-term and long-term systems, the results are most accurate. There are no sense to trust for scalpers results at TDS2, since even depending on the version of TDS2 the results are different for the same settings and the same versions of EA! Really for scalpers TDS2 is tossing a coin with the hope of luck.

Also for EvoNight most of losses during News (FOMC, NZD and etc), when trading at Live are blocked.

P.S. I have a lot of tester graals (longterm with the high expectency, which are independed from brokers execution), but at real market conditions they are not working.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petersurrey on January 17, 2018, 05:23:07 PM
Hi cyborg - what feed are you using on fxpig and are you giving this forum's members a discount coupon?;)

Will it also work on a GBP account ( vs EU)?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 17, 2018, 07:27:03 PM
Hello petersurrey,

Thank you for your interest.
The FXPIG-account use the SPA-Feed. I think it is the best "universal" feed they provide regarding spread, slippage and execution time.

About the discount coupon:
We are still have the 15% discount active, because my teammember seems to be too busy in the last 36 hours ;-) I hope he will change the website in the next hours or tomorrow.
So right now you can still use it.

And sure, it can be used on a GBP account without any problems.

I hope to welcome you as a new customer in the next days :-)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petersurrey on January 25, 2018, 09:02:23 AM
Still watching this one - another question - I note on some days it doesn't trade at all ( 23rd Jan) - how does it know when to and not to trade?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 25, 2018, 02:03:33 PM
Hello petersurrey,

Forex Cyborg use a set of filter to avoid bad entries. One of the filters is a channel filter. Too low movements ends up often in a bad risk to return value. It is only possible to catch up a few pips, but the movements are too often unpredictable.
Another filter is based on price action. If the market activity is too low, than it will filter trade entries too. But too high volatility is bad too... therefore there is a filter too for this.
As you can see in the back tests, some pairs trade only a few hundrets times in over 6 years. (for example AUDUSD less than 500 trades)

Sometimes there will be 1-3 days where you will see not a single trade, sometimes you will see 6-8 trades in only one trading session. It all depends on the market activity and the trade opportunities.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: dasher1980 on January 27, 2018, 06:04:23 PM
Forex Cyborg, am I correct in understanding that you changed something after July last year? These was a decent drawdown and since than it looks much better. You changed the correlation issue?

Also any discount you can offer for the members here?

Thanks
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 27, 2018, 09:05:21 PM
Forex Cyborg, am I correct in understanding that you changed something after July last year? These was a decent drawdown and since than it looks much better. You changed the correlation issue?

Also any discount you can offer for the members here?

Thanks


Hello dasher,

Thank you for your message.
No there was no change in the settings / setup or risk settings since the first day of the account until the 14.1.2018
At this date I updated all accounts to v1.1

Drawdown phases are totally normal for EVERY system and they will happen in the future too.
Changing settings and setups during this time does mean that you don't trust your own system / EA.
I fully trust in it and I was aware that a DD of 25-30% can and will happen based on the back tests. It was just a bad timing, because it was just a few weeks after the sale began.
Personally I don't like if any EA seller close and reopen any live-account or if they change the settings every 2-4 weeks.
Customer want to compare the own results with the account of the seller and want to see the real risk.
For sure I would generate more sales if I close and reopen a live account if i face a big DD.

And regarding the discount: Please write me a message at support@forexcyborg.com with the package you want and we will see what we can do :-)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: dasher1980 on January 28, 2018, 05:36:53 PM
Thanks for your reply. I agree that a 30% drawdown can happen anywhere. However for my personally the short live performance and the relatively high price (an no discount) means I will leave this EA for now. There are enough cheaper EAs out there with a lot more live performance.

I understand where you are coming from, if there is some sort of OK performance its best to profit the most out of it by asking a high price. As with most of the EAs out there they don't live long and people lose interest all together with a drawdown. Thats the reason why there are actually very very few EA's who live longer than 2 Years. Best Scalper is one exception (I own this one). You will see the same on MQL, as soon as some EA performs well and reaches number one on there, sellers ask the maximum price for a couple of weeks and soon they will drop the price once the drawdowns happen and they lose their pole position.

Anyways, I guess thats the nature of FX Business, its unregulated. So its hard to navigate through all this. Wishing you healthy sales and a good performance!
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 28, 2018, 05:56:44 PM
Thank you dasher for your valuable feedback.

Yes Best Scalper has a fantastic history and except the bugs it seems to be a good EA.
The only thing that disturb me is that it is very broker sensitive, because of the low expectancy.

But I can understand your argument, that Forex Cyborg is not interesting for you with a too short history. So give it some more months... Maybe we can do some business in the future :-)

I wish you a good upcoming trading week and much luck with your copy of Best Scalper!
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: dasher1980 on January 28, 2018, 07:25:58 PM
Agree, I do like your expectancy. Hence my initial interest. Will keep an eye on yours to see how it performs over the next months. If it keeps doing what it does now, I might be indeed a buyer.

All the best
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 29, 2018, 03:50:18 PM
@dasher1980:

Thank you and I would be happy about it!


@bearnakedbull:


 I don't know any asian scalper with a higher expectancy rate + higher average win-rate vs the average loss-rate + is able to trade 15 different pairs + can provide that good backtests.
This one is pretty close at $159.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/evonightea/2252381

I saw your MQL-Review of EvoNight and that you had 4 full stops last week and that the most user don't get a good explanation of Ivan how this could happen...
It is quite simple to explain it in my view: Ivan back tested EvoNight with fixed spreads and has problems to get good back tests results with variable spreads for some pairs. What happend here last week were big spreads that reached the SL of many users. Trading GBPCHF with a fixed SL of 40 pips will always fail in the reality on long term in my view. Even the best retail broker will have spreads of 25-40 pips at the worst time (for example at monday market opening).

And don't believe Ivan when he said that you can not compare back test results with forward results.
I compared this weekend every single trade of this month between the back test and my new forward account (of the broker circle markets) to find out, that they are equal about 80-90%. They are very good comparable!

I'm sure that if you would run a back test of EvoNight with a fixed spread of 4.0 pips, like Ivan did it in his published back tests, you will not see that 4 losses last week.

I just want to point out, that you should be worried if a seller tell you that you can't compare tick data based backtests with live forward results. That's just not true.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on January 29, 2018, 03:54:58 PM
Yes Evonight was a fast failure. I actually shut it off only after one week. Very disappointing. I could have bought Cyborg with money I just lost on Evo.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on January 29, 2018, 04:42:50 PM
i analysed the trades some last night,

cyborg seems to trade in direction of trend, most all scalpers are counter.

thats why cyborg had a good run recently = g pairs

also it goes for higher tp values since it tries for the trend the way it seems to me.

and i agree with mr cyborg, bt can be relied on big time with certain ea and as long its done properly.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 30, 2018, 07:10:01 AM
Good news: The first 100% was reached in less than 9 months on the FXPIG account (even with a 25% DD in August last year).

I'm looking forward for the next 100% in the next months  :)

Thank you @ all customer for your support
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on March 06, 2018, 09:59:10 AM
After over 1 month, here is an update:

1.) We achieved a monthly gain of 13.79% on our main FXPIG account in 02/2018

2.) We upper the deposits last month. With the additional deposit + the current profits we are nearly at the 20k€ mark on all published accounts.
We don't use only $300 (or less) at our forward account. We want to show that it is possible to trader higher lots too using Forex Cyborg.

3.) Our high risk set up (=5.5% risk per trade + no risk correlation manager) on our new broker Circle Markets reached the 100% gain mark after 9 weeks (since 2.1.):
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets-high/2378197 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets-high/2378197)

4.) We offer now a PAMM account too. Write me if you are interested

5.) The next version (v1.2) has a slippage control, that will show you the average slippage for the current pair and for all pairs. It will be possible to compare your prefered brokers with that tool.
In addition we will add the first JPY-pairs too.
It is currently in the testing and will be released soon.

6.) We highly recommend to everyone to try Circle markets. If you ever thought that Darwinex, FXPIG, IC Markets or Pepperstone is the best broker out there, than you have to try them.

Here are the reasons:
1.) They offer spreads like IC Markets or better. EURUSD + GBPUSD are sometimes at -0.1
2.) Low commission: Only $5 per lot
3.) Well regulated (FSP)
4.) Pure and fast NDD Execution
5.) Better swaps compared to Darwinex and FXPIG
6.) FIX API and individual price feeds are possible
7.) Great customer support

It is currently my prefered broker. It is just a broker from a real trader (that knows the needs) for traders. The only bad thing is that it is a still quite young broker (about 2 years in the market)

I would be happy if you use our IB link if you plan to try them:
https://live.crm.circlemarkets.com/signup/IChJ6jcH (https://live.crm.circlemarkets.com/signup/IChJ6jcH)


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: atomico on March 06, 2018, 12:00:40 PM
good morning Cyborg,

seems a good EA, i can follow and see how it continue... BUT... i am little confused...

on the new account on Circle Markets published on myfx i see the GAIN is 103,62%...

on my mind, a gain of 100% is the DOUBLE of initial deposit capital... in this case you start with 7.000€ BUT the actual balance is NOT correct with the 103,62% (about over 14.000€)
the showed PROFIT is ONLY 1.501,41€...

where the mistake? or i am wrong?

best regard
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on March 06, 2018, 12:22:10 PM
good morning Cyborg,

seems a good EA, i can follow and see how it continue... BUT... i am little confused...

on the new account on Circle Markets published on myfx i see the GAIN is 103,62%...

on my mind, a gain of 100% is the DOUBLE of initial deposit capital... in this case you start with 7.000€ BUT the actual balance is NOT correct with the 103,62% (about over 14.000€)
the showed PROFIT is ONLY 1.501,41€...

where the mistake? or i am wrong?

best regard

Hello Atomico,

that is quite simple.
"Gain" show the % Gain if there would be no additional withdraw / deposit in the history.
So if I would have deposit 7k from the beginning, than Gain and Abs. Gain would be the same (like it is at the FXPIG account).
At the Circle markets account I just uppered (as written before) the deposit. You can see it on the "balance" sheet at the myfxbook-page.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: AdamA on March 06, 2018, 12:45:44 PM
We managed to archive a greater average win (pips) compared to the average loss (pips), while we have a winning rate over 75%.

And that indicates that it's highly optimized using historical data what is certainly not a good thing.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on March 06, 2018, 12:53:31 PM
We managed to archive a greater average win (pips) compared to the average loss (pips), while we have a winning rate over 75%.

And that indicates that it's highly optimized using historical data what is certainly not a good thing.


Hello AdamA,

we are live since 09.05.2017 and we have great stats without any additional optimization. As you can see Forex Cyborg works on the current live market environment very profitable.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: donbon2 on March 06, 2018, 01:20:28 PM
yeah - this is how they do their markets - top bunch of guys spamming forums for $5 LOL

https://www.seoclerk.com/job/Article-Writing/56759/Forex-forum-post-for-Circle-Markets


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Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on March 06, 2018, 01:36:04 PM
yeah - this is how they do their markets - top bunch of guys spamming forums for $5 LOL

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Forex forum post for Circle Markets Hello I am looking for 20 forum post about https://circlemarkets.com if you can do it please apply ASAP. You have to create word docs and take screenshot with link where you write about Circle Markets. Circle Markets is new ECN broker and offer low spread. You can get lots of promotional information by visiting https://circlemarkets.com also you can ask me about Circle Markets. Please send me one example so I can hire you. Thanks

I don't care about the marketing methods a broker use.
I only care what they provide me as a trader and this is very good. That is the reason I mention them here.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on March 14, 2018, 10:20:45 AM
Today I created some back tests for our community member "reinerh" and I tought I could share them with you too.

He wanted to compare the back tests with the live results.

If you want to check it too, than you can download the back tests here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tp9zu1wwyttfeyf/Backtests_v1.1_13012018_13032018.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/tp9zu1wwyttfeyf/Backtests_v1.1_13012018_13032018.zip?dl=0)

The timeframe is 13.01.-13.03.2018, because we updated our live accounts to v1.1 on the 14.01.2018.

You can only compare it with the following account:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets-high/2378197 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets-high/2378197)

The reason: it is the only account, where we deactivated the "risk correlation manager". This tool block several trades on the other accounts to reduce the overall risk, but it is impossible to back test it.

If you want to compare it, than keep in mind the following things:

1.) Circle Markets had GMT+1 in that timeframe. The tests are generated with GMT+0. So you will see one hour difference here
2.) Different brokers generate different results as you can see in our several published live accounts, but the results are 90-95% compareable.
3.) Circle Markets is closing the market for 6 minutes at the rollover time. So opening / closing a trade at this time is not possible.
4.) When opening the linked live account, just click on "Custom Analysis" and select the timeframe "13.01.-13.03.2018" and select one of the currency pairs.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on March 15, 2018, 03:32:16 PM
We managed to archive a greater average win (pips) compared to the average loss (pips), while we have a winning rate over 75%.

And that indicates that it's highly optimized using historical data what is certainly not a good thing.

ha what, historical data is the best one can have, so you prefer some flaky moonshine data :)
 
what mr cyborg posted above is remarkable to me, one can easily see the bt trades match forward almost 100%

i for one will never ever run another ea live where the backtested trades cant be matched forward.

so in the meantime i have been able to confirm those backtests myself, and i must say its a remarkable ea.

scalpers were never really my thing since they cost me dearly in the past, since most have very small tp values cyborg goes for higher values. and with traditional scalpers slippage and ninja news easily makes them non profitable long term, i sure always lost with them.
 
cyborg goes for higher tp values and also some pairs trade outside the traditional scalper timeframe.



Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on March 15, 2018, 07:52:53 PM
We managed to archive a greater average win (pips) compared to the average loss (pips), while we have a winning rate over 75%.

And that indicates that it's highly optimized using historical data what is certainly not a good thing.

ha what, historical data is the best one can have, so you prefer some flaky moonshine data :)
 
what mr cyborg posted above is remarkable to me, one can easily see the bt trades match forward almost 100%

i for one will never ever run another ea live where the backtested trades cant be matched forward.

so in the meantime i have been able to confirm those backtests myself, and i must say its a remarkable ea.

scalpers were never really my thing since they cost me dearly in the past, since most have very small tp values cyborg goes for higher values. and with traditional scalpers slippage and ninja news easily makes them non profitable long term, i sure always lost with them.
 
cyborg goes for higher tp values and also some pairs trade outside the traditional scalper timeframe.

Looks promising.  I would wait another month to get a more reasonable data set on myfxbook.

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: alstoner on March 28, 2018, 11:29:02 AM
Thought i'd give a quick update as to my results thus far. +23.54% gain with 12.47% drawdown since Jan 30th. I had 1 SL this past week on GBPCHF at -70 pips and another smaller loss of -20 pips. Without those i would have been looking at a 36.88% gain. I trade all 15 pairs with a MM setting of 5% and Risk Corelation set to True.

Based on the results of the vendors high risk account - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets-high/2378197, I am looking to switch the correlated risk setting to False and will contuine to update on my results. Needless to say, i'm happy with the performance so far...
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on March 28, 2018, 04:42:28 PM
Thank you very much for your valuable feedback.
I hope we will have a better april. March was not that good. Not many good setups the last weeks.

Another interesting fact about Forex Cyborg: We managed to achieve rank #3 (out of 1654) at Darwinex based on the best "Darwinex-Score". This score is calculated based on multiple aspects (like market correlation, risk management, loss aversion, performance...). I think this is a fair instrument to compare strategies.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: hamiltoncurtis on March 29, 2018, 08:04:52 PM
Forex Cyborg, do you have any knowledge of how this will perform on a FXChoice Pro account? Thanks
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on April 02, 2018, 06:07:29 PM
Forex Cyborg, do you have any knowledge of how this will perform on a FXChoice Pro account? Thanks

I have no own experience, but it should run comparable to our published accounts.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Fxwind on April 14, 2018, 08:28:28 PM
Hi,Forex Cyborg.Do you EA use indicator Bollinger Bands?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on April 16, 2018, 01:05:07 PM
Hi,Forex Cyborg.Do you EA use indicator Bollinger Bands?

Hello Fxwind,

yes sure, Bollinger Bands is one of the indicators that Forex Cyborg use for the entry and for one of the exit rules.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: laracroft on May 03, 2018, 08:07:38 AM
@ ForexCyborg

I would like to know if Forex Cyborg allows you to make custom optimizations or if the user can only choose the pairs to use and the level of risk
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 03, 2018, 12:25:40 PM
Hello laracroft,

Forex Cyborg allows only to change the following settings:

- Choose the pairs you want to use
- Choose the level of risk
- Choose if you want to use the "Risk correlation manager" and how many trades per currency you want to allow
- Should it trade on Friday
- Should it trade on Monday opening
- Preset Type (Normal / Conservative). Conservative will trade less and will exit trades earlier (no matter if the position is in profit or not).

All other settings are internal.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: laracroft on May 03, 2018, 03:33:25 PM
@ ForexCyborg
Can you briefly describe your experience as a systems developer?
What other expert advisor did you build before you got to Forex Cyborg?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 03, 2018, 04:14:44 PM
@ ForexCyborg
Can you briefly describe your experience as a systems developer?
What other expert advisor did you build before you got to Forex Cyborg?

Hello laracroft,

Sure. I build my first EA in 2008. I started with Grid and Martingale EAs, like the most noobs.
I'm a professional developer in my main job, but I had not much know how about the forex market when I started to develop my first EAs.

Later (I think 2013/2014) I started to build breakout and asian scalper EAs. One tick scalper too.
I never sold any of my other EAs before, but I plan to sell my breakout EA maybe in the future too.

Edit: The reason I never sold any EA before was, that I don't wanted to publish "another asian scalper". I wanted to build something unique / more advanced, before I start selling it.

Any additional question?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: laracroft on May 03, 2018, 07:52:21 PM

Any additional question?


What's your nationality?
In the past I used the MFM5 multichannel Asian scalper. It earned well for several months, but then when the market was going strong it was likely to blow up the account, having no filter linked to the correlations between currencies.
Your EA does not have the problems that MFM5 had?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on May 03, 2018, 11:02:15 PM
@ ForexCyborg
Can you briefly describe your experience as a systems developer?
What other expert advisor did you build before you got to Forex Cyborg?

Hello laracroft,

Sure. I build my first EA in 2008. I started with Grid and Martingale EAs, like the most noobs.
I'm a professional developer in my main job, but I had not much know how about the forex market when I started to develop my first EAs.

Later (I think 2013/2014) I started to build breakout and asian scalper EAs. One tick scalper too.
I never sold any of my other EAs before, but I plan to sell my breakout EA maybe in the future too.

Edit: The reason I never sold any EA before was, that I don't wanted to publish "another asian scalper". I wanted to build something unique / more advanced, before I start selling it.

Any additional question?

Impressive and solid development history, FXCyborg. Keep posting and responding to our queries and you will gain our trust. We are a dedicated group as you can see and we support honest and sincere developers who are in it for the long run.   :)

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 04, 2018, 10:32:59 AM

Any additional question?


What's your nationality?
In the past I used the MFM5 multichannel Asian scalper. It earned well for several months, but then when the market was going strong it was likely to blow up the account, having no filter linked to the correlations between currencies.
Your EA does not have the problems that MFM5 had?

I don't know why my nationality matter, but I'm german.
A second guy that I'm working with is not from germany.

Regardings MFM5: I know that EA too and it doesn't even use SL on the trades. And yes it has no "Correlation risk manager", that is why it was very risky. It opened several trades for the same currency in case of a strong market movement.

Forex Cyborg seems to be the only EA yet, that has the possibility to limit the orders of different currency pairs, but the same currency. So even if there will be a big event that move the market for 200-300 pips in a few hours during the asian session, your risk can be controlled and is calculated.

Every trade has a fixed SL and if you use the "Risk per trade" parameter and the "Correlation risk manager" you can easily calculate your overall risk.
Let's say you use the default settings: "Risk per trade" = 3.5% and "Correlation risk manager" = true and "Max. trades per currency" = 2
If you have now a movement for, let's say the CAD, you will get max. two CAD positions, like CADCHF - buy and EURCAD - sell. USDCAD, AUDCAD and GBPCAD will not be opened. So even if this movement will end up in two full SL your overall risk would be 7%

In my view the most important thing is a good money management and this tool can help you here. I really wonder, why no other developer has implemented such an idea yet in a multi-currency (asian) scalper

Beside this facts: Forex Cyborg has a BIG different trade logic compared to MFM5. It trades less frequent, much more precise, higher pip values and mostly before the asian session starts, where you will have enough liquidity + less slippage. The most trades of MFM5 were opened directly after the asian session started (when you have the worst spreads + low liquidity)


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 04, 2018, 10:33:30 AM
@ ForexCyborg
Can you briefly describe your experience as a systems developer?
What other expert advisor did you build before you got to Forex Cyborg?

Hello laracroft,

Sure. I build my first EA in 2008. I started with Grid and Martingale EAs, like the most noobs.
I'm a professional developer in my main job, but I had not much know how about the forex market when I started to develop my first EAs.

Later (I think 2013/2014) I started to build breakout and asian scalper EAs. One tick scalper too.
I never sold any of my other EAs before, but I plan to sell my breakout EA maybe in the future too.

Edit: The reason I never sold any EA before was, that I don't wanted to publish "another asian scalper". I wanted to build something unique / more advanced, before I start selling it.

Any additional question?

Impressive and solid development history, FXCyborg. Keep posting and responding to our queries and you will gain our trust. We are a dedicated group as you can see and we support honest and sincere developers who are in it for the long run.   :)

Regards,
HumbleTrader

Thank you very much.
I will do my best.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Tradenow on May 04, 2018, 03:05:25 PM
@ForexCyborg

Do you allow licence sharing?

Thanks for info!

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: FlightOfTheOsiris on May 04, 2018, 04:27:26 PM
Solid work Forex Cyborg, it is really a quality ea.

I also really like your attitude "I wanted to build something unique / more advanced, before I start selling it."

Keep it up and keep up the good communication.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on May 04, 2018, 06:42:14 PM
Solid work Forex Cyborg, it is really a quality ea.

I also really like your attitude "I wanted to build something unique / more advanced, before I start selling it."

Keep it up and keep up the good communication.


Hello, Flight.

You seem to be new to DonnaFx so wellcom as well.

I have been pondering giving any recommendation on this EA for almost a year because at least two of our senior members, have raised some serious questions about it's utility. Given that you are giving a recommendation here not only about the developer but as well the EA itself, it would be helpful to all of us here for you to share the specific strengths you have found. Most important, we would welcome any third party myfxbook live account post if you be so kind to share with us; should you be running this bot live with success for some time.

Looking forward to your continued support to our education of the forex Cyborg experience.

Regards,
HumbleTrader :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 05, 2018, 12:08:30 AM
@ForexCyborg

Do you allow licence sharing?

Thanks for info!

Hello Tradenow,

sure, no problem.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 05, 2018, 12:10:38 AM
Solid work Forex Cyborg, it is really a quality ea.

I also really like your attitude "I wanted to build something unique / more advanced, before I start selling it."

Keep it up and keep up the good communication.

Hello FlightOfTheOsiris,

Thank you very much!
I'm happy that a customer write here positive reviews. More worth than my own words.
Sharing a myfxbook link would be very interesting for me too.

Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 05, 2018, 11:46:36 AM
I'm very happy to annonce that version v1.2 is ready

After a longer test period, I decided that it is time to release the new version.

What's new:
- Improved entry logic - More trades and overall more profit
- Slippage-Control Module: Every time Forex Cyborg enter and exit a trade, it will measure the slippage for this trade. In your Control-Panel you will see two new informations: "Average slippage (current pair)" and "Average slippage (all pairs)".  This will help you to compare brokers and how much higher lot sizes have an impact on your slippage.
- JPY-Pairs are now supported too - 3 new pairs added: USDJPY, CHFJPY and EURJPY
- Smaller Bugfixes

To show you the improvements, I made 3 portfolios:

First v1.1 with the current 15 pairs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7jty7qdk4llaqaw/Forex_Cyborg_Portfolio_v1.1_15_pairs.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/7jty7qdk4llaqaw/Forex_Cyborg_Portfolio_v1.1_15_pairs.jpg?dl=0)
Second v1.2 with the same 15 pairs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v199l81cqg717hy/Forex_Cyborg_Portfolio_v1.2_15_pairs.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/v199l81cqg717hy/Forex_Cyborg_Portfolio_v1.2_15_pairs.jpg?dl=0)

You can see, that the overall profit is now +22% and the profit factor could be improved too, while we have more trades.

At least a portfolio with all the 18 pairs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qxgd7evo65gtkhn/Forex_Cyborg_Portfolio_v1.2_18_pairs.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qxgd7evo65gtkhn/Forex_Cyborg_Portfolio_v1.2_18_pairs.jpg?dl=0)

As you can see this will boost the number of trades and the overall profit significant + it is overall more stable.

All back tests were done with dukascopy tick data using the TDS and using variable spread with the model "Every tick".
For a better comparison all trades were executed with a fixed lot size of 1.0

I already knew that every currency pair has it's own character, but what I've learned in the last months is that you have to trade buy and sell-positions completly different even for the same pair. It is very significat for pairs like USDJPY. Very interesting.

That update will be available for every customer. Please contact us for the upgraded version.
The new JPY-Package will be available for all GOLD+PREMIUM customers.


The website will be updated soon.



Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Gpoint on May 05, 2018, 12:40:43 PM
How much reliable your Quant Analyzer Portfolio backtest is?!
On the version 1.1 - 15 pairs BT, the month of March 2018 closed in positive gain (Usd 1.716.40) while on your REAL account on myfxbook you lost -3.56% that same month: any explanation for this?...
Thank you.
Gp
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 05, 2018, 02:36:01 PM
How much reliable your Quant Analyzer Portfolio backtest is?!
On the version 1.1 - 15 pairs BT, the month of March 2018 closed in positive gain (Usd 1.716.40) while on your REAL account on myfxbook you lost -3.56% that same month: any explanation for this?...
Thank you.
Gp

1.) Different broker generate different tick data and different results. If you compare all our forward account (+ the account of Forex Germany), you will see that all accounts have a positive result for march 2018. Only the FXPIG had a bad month. The differences are in different spreads, the different tick data and the slippages that lead to different trading decisions for Forex Cyborg. Many trades are very equal at all broker, some are not. That is why we provide more than one forward account to show you different possibilites. But overall Forex Cyborg is profitable on all the brokers.

2.) All accounts expect the "high-risk" account at circle markets running with the "Correlation risk-manager" = true. That lead to less trades compared to the back tests. I compare the trades of the Circle markets account (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets-high/2378197) every month and they are over 95% compareable with the back tests. You can ask reinerh too, I send him already details about this. He can prove that I talk the truth.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Gpoint on May 05, 2018, 02:39:51 PM
TY FC for your reply.
Another question about your signal service: when you will start using latest v1.2 of the EA (including the new three pairs added/supported) for the signal service you're running on simpletrader/connectforex?
Thanks
Gp
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 05, 2018, 02:45:15 PM
Hello Gpoint,

it will be set up today or tomorrow, before the market open again.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on May 05, 2018, 04:11:31 PM
a pair having character, that is soooooooooooooo true been saying that myself for years yet never heard anybody saying this out loud.

it always baffles me when manual traders which trade mostly one pair, then go with another one and go into heavy dd not realizing that.

uj makes sense, since asia opens at end of cyborg trade times, and actually all yen pairs often go in one direction after the open of the asia session. so that be the prefered direction to trade which you must have seen in backtest.

well done, keep it up.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Tradenow on May 05, 2018, 08:03:46 PM
@ForexCyborg

Do you allow licence sharing?

Thanks for info!

Hello Tradenow,

sure, no problem.

Thanks for info,

we are three now and just clearing the details which licence we should buy.
Thanks for this option.

best regards
Mark

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: 5ninefish on May 05, 2018, 09:21:40 PM
@ForexCyborg

Do you allow licence sharing?

Thanks for info!

Hello Tradenow,

sure, no problem.

Thanks for info,

we are three now and just clearing the details which licence we should buy.
Thanks for this option.

best regards
Mark

Anybody else want to split a license?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on May 05, 2018, 09:44:11 PM
@ForexCyborg

Do you allow licence sharing?

Thanks for info!

Hello Tradenow,

sure, no problem.

Thanks for info,

we are three now and just clearing the details which licence we should buy.
Thanks for this option.

best regards
Mark

you guys should go for the one with all pairs, one can always run fewer if need be...............................
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Gpoint on May 05, 2018, 09:45:00 PM
How much reliable your Quant Analyzer Portfolio backtest is?!
On the version 1.1 - 15 pairs BT, the month of March 2018 closed in positive gain (Usd 1.716.40) while on your REAL account on myfxbook you lost -3.56% that same month: any explanation for this?...
Thank you.
Gp

1.) Different broker generate different tick data and different results. If you compare all our forward account (+ the account of Forex Germany), you will see that all accounts have a positive result for march 2018. Only the FXPIG had a bad month. The differences are in different spreads, the different tick data and the slippages that lead to different trading decisions for Forex Cyborg. Many trades are very equal at all broker, some are not. That is why we provide more than one forward account to show you different possibilites. But overall Forex Cyborg is profitable on all the brokers.

2.) All accounts expect the "high-risk" account at circle markets running with the "Correlation risk-manager" = true. That lead to less trades compared to the back tests. I compare the trades of the Circle markets account (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets-high/2378197) every month and they are over 95% compareable with the back tests. You can ask reinerh too, I send him already details about this. He can prove that I talk the truth.

I'm interested in sharing a license (need of 1 real account for me) but want to get the package that allow trading on all 18 available pairs: someone know what will be the price of such kind of full package?
Gp
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on May 05, 2018, 10:27:43 PM
Cyborg Pricing is here:  http://www.forexcyborg.com/

The 14 pair version is the 'Premium' and it's 600 Euro.

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on May 05, 2018, 10:36:51 PM
Hi Forex Cyborg,

I am trying to analyze the various FxBooks on Cyborg. It would be very helpful if you could list the risks and pair versions (Basic or Gold) and any other information that might be pertinent for each FxBook. Hopefully that's not too much bother for you. It would be nice to have that all in one place. :)

Thanks,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 05, 2018, 10:57:27 PM
Hi Forex Cyborg,

I am trying to analyze the various FxBooks on Cyborg. It would be very helpful if you could list the risks and pair versions (Basic or Gold) and any other information that might be pertinent for each FxBook. Hopefully that's not too much bother for you. It would be nice to have that all in one place. :)

Thanks,
Rod

All settings are described in the description of each system:
All accounts provided from us running with 4.5% risk per trade and "Risk correlation manager" = on + max. 2 trades per currency, except the High-Risk account at circle markets. The high risk account use 5.5% risk per trade and "Risk correlation manager" = off
On every account all pairs are used. You can find the results of all pairs at the tab "Summary" at each system.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 05, 2018, 10:59:50 PM
@ForexCyborg

Do you allow licence sharing?

Thanks for info!

Hello Tradenow,

sure, no problem.

Thanks for info,

we are three now and just clearing the details which licence we should buy.
Thanks for this option.

best regards
Mark

You are welcome. Looking forward for your purchase.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: lucahk on May 06, 2018, 11:00:30 AM
@ForexCyborg

Do you allow licence sharing?

Thanks for info!

Hello Tradenow,

sure, no problem.

Thanks for info,

we are three now and just clearing the details which licence we should buy.
Thanks for this option.

best regards
Mark

Anybody else want to split a license?

I would like to.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Tradenow on May 06, 2018, 11:17:32 AM
I would like to.

Sent you a pm. There is still a conservation going on how to do it  ;D
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Tradenow on May 06, 2018, 11:18:18 AM
I'm interested in sharing a license (need of 1 real account for me) but want to get the package that allow trading on all 18 available pairs: someone know what will be the price of such kind of full package?
Gp

Sent you a pm too...
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: lucahk on May 06, 2018, 12:01:01 PM
I would like to.

Sent you a pm. There is still a conservation going on how to do it  ;D

Thanks, got it and replied you.

Regards,

Luca.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: alstoner on May 06, 2018, 05:51:53 PM
Hi FC, Will version 1.2 pick up and automatically manage open trades from version 1.1? I've got an open trade on gpbaud carried over from Fridays close. For now I've swapped over all currencies apart from that but just curious. Cheers Ant

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Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 06, 2018, 06:01:08 PM
Hello alstoner,

there is no problem if you switch from v1.1 to v1.2 when there is a open trade. It will be automatically managed.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: alstoner on May 06, 2018, 06:42:06 PM
Hello alstoner,

there is no problem if you switch from v1.1 to v1.2 when there is a open trade. It will be automatically managed.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Perfect! thanks for the prompt response

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Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: laracroft on May 07, 2018, 04:04:30 PM
Also I am willing to share the Premium license and for me I need a real account
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on May 08, 2018, 01:57:22 AM
Hello, FxCyborg.

This might be a nieve question and one which you have already answered, I apologize in advance but is "more better"? I mean,  you offer two packages with the difference being in the number of currencies traded but there is little that is available to show that trading seven currencies isn't as good as trading fourteen or is there?

For instance, in the myfxbook you demonstrate, four of the currencies are losers ( AUDCHF, GBPCHF
GBPUSD, USDCHF ). From what I see thus far, the risk is the determining factor as is with all bots and trades. Or perhaps you need the extra currencies for correlation purposes?

Please enlighetn us.

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 08, 2018, 07:44:31 AM
Hello, FxCyborg.

This might be a nieve question and one which you have already answered, I apologize in advance but is "more better"? I mean,  you offer two packages with the difference being in the number of currencies traded but there is little that is available to show that trading seven currencies isn't as good as trading fourteen or is there?

For instance, in the myfxbook you demonstrate, four of the currencies are losers ( AUDCHF, GBPCHF
GBPUSD, USDCHF ). From what I see thus far, the risk is the determining factor as is with all bots and trades. Or perhaps you need the extra currencies for correlation purposes?

Please enlighetn us.

Regards,
HumbleTrader

Hello HumbleTrader,

it's not a naive question and it was not answered yet, so I try to explain my point of view.

1.) Forex Cyborg trade quite less. Some pairs don't offer many opportunities for the trade logic of Forex Cyborg. Some trade only 200-400 trades in about 6 years. To have a higher chance to get more trades, we added more pairs.
2.) Using the "risk per trade" risk setting will help to grow your capital faster thanks to the compounding effect. The more trades you have, the faster it can grow.
3.) The user can choose between more pairs, if he don't like to trade for example the CHF-pairs.
4.) Every pair will have some DD phase, as you can see in the back tests. The four losers could be the next winner in the upcomming 12 months, while the current winner will be the losers. Who knows?
5.) The overall risk is limited thanks to the correlation risk manager. With the default settings you get max. two trades per currency at the same time. So even if you trade the EUR in 6 different currency pairs and a big trend will appear that will end up in full SL, you will see only two losers instead of 6.
6.) And most important: Diversification is the key to success!
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: lucahk on May 08, 2018, 08:32:25 AM
Also I am willing to share the Premium license and for me I need a real account

Hi.
   I am available to proceed anytime.
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Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: grgr on May 08, 2018, 08:35:43 AM
i wouldn't invest a single penny in such a strategy. uncertain equity trend, 4 months of drawdown and only 12 months of history record. Only two of the pairs have more than 100 trades, so I don't know how do you want to draw any meaningful conclusions. 7,48 per month and 25 drawdown. And you want 700$ for this? I am afraid the only one who will make money on this ea will be the vendor, as usual. Also, how much of this 700$ license are you sharing with fxpig for advertisement?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 08, 2018, 09:22:19 AM
i wouldn't invest a single penny in such a strategy. uncertain equity trend, 4 months of drawdown and only 12 months of history record. Only two of the pairs have more than 100 trades, so I don't know how do you want to draw any meaningful conclusions. 7,48 per month and 25 drawdown. And you want 700$ for this? I am afraid the only one who will make money on this ea will be the vendor, as usual. Also, how much of this 700$ license are you sharing with fxpig for advertisement?

Thank you for your feed back.
Just a few word from my side to this:
The most EA seller would delete a account, when they face a DD like last year. I decided to show everyone that the EA is able to recover from this and reach new highs. I think this is the only honest way. Every system has DD phase, so here too.
But yes: 12 month of history isn't much, but that is nothing I can change quickly  :)

If the performance is worth the money is a decision for everyone itself. There are enough guys out there that already made several time of the money they payed for Forex Cyborg. If you plan want to invest only $100-200, than yes: this will not be the right EA for you.
But I can understand your point of view too. So that is no product for you.

A last thing to not confuse new users: The price for a single license (Basic - 7 pairs) is 299€ and the price for a single license (Gold - all pairs) is 499€ and not $700.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: grgr on May 08, 2018, 09:42:14 AM
Obviously that's a good explanation, why you invested only 2000 eur with your ea, while each license costs 500$ and goes directly to your bank account. That's a very good business i must admit.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 08, 2018, 10:11:00 AM
Obviously that's a good explanation, why you invested only 2000 eur with your ea, while each license costs 500$ and goes directly to your bank account. That's a very good business i must admit.

That is simply not the truth. The current investments in Forex Cyborg (alone the visible accounts you can see on our myfxbook site) are the following:

FXPIG:
Deposit: 2000 eur
Current investment: 4795 eur

Darwinex:
Deposit: 1450 eur
Current investment: 2547 eur

FinPro:
Deposit: 309 eur
Current investment: 479 eur

Circle Markets (two accounts):
Deposit: 7997 + 5000 = 12997 eur
Current investment: 9612 + 7077 = 16689 eur

So my current visible investment is currently 24510 eur

Beside this, I trade it on another bigger own account, where I use more than one strategy (that is why I can't publish it)

Could it be, that you simply don't know that we have more than one forward account?

Have a look here: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 08, 2018, 10:53:05 AM
Obviously that's a good explanation, why you invested only 2000 eur with your ea, while each license costs 500$ and goes directly to your bank account. That's a very good business i must admit.

Sorry, but I must write again something regarding this post because it seems some of you guys have a wrong imagination what it mean to sell a EA.

1.) I spend many months of my lifetime to achieve where I stand today. Forex Cyborg is the result of my programing + trading skills that took many many hours of my spare free time. I think the most valued thing if our life is our lifetime and I look closely where I spend it.
2.) I shared this result with you guys and I think it is worth much more than this price, but the market (you guys) would not be able to pay the prices this would be worth.
3.) Thinking that "$500 goes directly to your bank account" is soooooo naive.
First I have to pay click2sell dues, than PayPal dues, than almost all sales that are generated are assigned to a affiliate. That mean, that 30% (+paypal dues) is already away from the net profit. After this, let's say 65% I have to pay for advertisement and the share for my business partner that manage the website + marketing. At the end I have to pay 19% company tax (here in germany) + a very high personal income tax (in sum both result in over 50% tax).
For this low income I have to answer many e-mails every day, be available every day. I even have to plan my holidays in the way to be able to check my emails every day.
Than I have to improve and update the EA.
Beside this I have to make all the tax income things every month + pay all the affiliates / my business partner.
I often ask myself the question: Is it worth to spend my lifetime for this or should I just stop selling it, because it is not worth the work?
I could just trade it on my own or simply only offer PAMM + a signal, instead of giving the opportunity to buy this EA and use it for a lifetime on your own.

So don't be so naive and write (or even think) things like "$500 goes directly to your bank account".
Be happy that you have another serious EA seller that try to offer a profitable EA.
If it is not worth for you, than search for another EA, but stop writing such things and stop lying.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on May 08, 2018, 11:20:44 AM
Obviously that's a good explanation, why you invested only 2000 eur with your ea, while each license costs 500$ and goes directly to your bank account. That's a very good business i must admit.

Sorry, but I must write again something regarding this post because it seems some of you guys have a wrong imagination what it mean to sell a EA.

1.) I spend many months of my lifetime to achieve where I stand today. Forex Cyborg is the result of my programing + trading skills that took many many hours of my spare free time. I think the most valued thing if our life is our lifetime and I look closely where I spend it.
2.) I shared this result with you guys and I think it is worth much more than this price, but the market (you guys) would not be able to pay the prices this would be worth.
3.) Thinking that "$500 goes directly to your bank account" is soooooo naive.
First I have to pay click2sell dues, than PayPal dues, than almost all sales that are generated are assigned to a affiliate. That mean, that 30% (+paypal dues) is already away from the net profit. After this, let's say 65% I have to pay for advertisement and the share for my business partner that manage the website + marketing. At the end I have to pay 19% company tax (here in germany) + a very high personal income tax (in sum both result in over 50% tax).
For this low income I have to answer many e-mails every day, be available every day. I even have to plan my holidays in the way to be able to check my emails every day.
Than I have to improve and update the EA.
Beside this I have to make all the tax income things every month + pay all the affiliates / my business partner.
I often ask myself the question: Is it worth to spend my lifetime for this or should I just stop selling it, because it is not worth the work?
I could just trade it on my own or simply only offer PAMM + a signal, instead of giving the opportunity to buy this EA and use it for a lifetime on your own.

So don't be so naive and write (or even think) things like "$500 goes directly to your bank account".
Be happy that you have another serious EA seller that try to offer a profitable EA.
If it is not worth for you, than search for another EA, but stop writing such things and stop lying.


Thanks Fx Cyborg for your sincerity. I think if members colaborate with each other and take advantage of the Premium package, a price of 200 EU, is quite reasonable, especially when compared to some other failed EA's which were initially peddled here and have since gone in the waste basket and heavy $$ loses.

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: grgr on May 08, 2018, 12:49:04 PM
I am not lying i just think that people believes that they will be successful with this ea are just naive. This is in your words. I've seen eas with much better results and cheaper, which failed very soon. Just a waste of money.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Tradenow on May 08, 2018, 12:56:35 PM
@ForexCyborg

You dont have to explain yourself for your price structure. Running such a business is hard work. We saw many crap eas the last years with price tags of 2k$ like TomsEA for example.
Other eas from well known scammer W. Morrison and his gang with price tags of 799$ or more. With the guarantee that they will vanish after some months completely and a brand new ea was following. On MQL site you find SFE for 2k$ and many many other eas for horrendous price tags. Do they gave you any guarantee? No.

With the chance to share licences and this is not usual for every vendor the price you ask is absolut ok. Assuming that you are here for the long run i dont think that anything is wrong atm. Quite contrary to other vendors you are here answering questions and supporting your ea. You also get angry from the comment of grgr and reading your answer showed me that you are realy caring about your ea. Also its MADE IN GERMANY.
Thats realy an exception and a good sign!  8)
Keep on posting and supporting your ea. I am glad that we may have now a new honest vendor with enough programming skills to maybe build an ea that will be a long term winner.

@grgr
Like with any ea we saw the last years only time will tell if ForexCyborg is similiar to ForexRealprofit EA and his good support. Those guys are here since years tweaking and updating the ea. Maybe ForexCyborg is also not a one-hit wonder. But the price tag is realy not the problem. And if the history isnt enough anybody can wait some months longer.
You realy know that we saw much more crap without any real account or any support here the last years. Hopefully we will not disappointed again but after all the years i didnt expect anything from eas. Thats the only way they can suprise me  ;)

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 08, 2018, 12:57:09 PM
I am not lying i just think that people believes that they will be successful with this ea are just naive. This is in your words. I've seen eas with much better results and cheaper, which failed very soon. Just a waste of money.


you invested only 2000 eur with your ea

I prove you that it is not the truth and you still pretending that you are not lying.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 08, 2018, 12:59:33 PM
@ForexCyborg

You dont have to explain yourself for your price structure. Running such a business is hard work. We saw many crap eas the last years with price tags of 2k$ like TomsEA for example.
Other eas from well known scammer W. Morrison and his gang with price tags of 799$ or more. With the guarantee that they will vanish after some months completely and a brand new ea was following. On MQL site you find SFE for 2k$ and many many other eas for horrendous price tags. Do they gave you any guarantee? No.

With the chance to share licences and this is not usual for every vendor the price you ask is absolut ok. Assuming that you are here for the long run i dont think that anything is wrong atm. Quite contrary to other vendors you are here answering questions and supporting your ea. You also get angry from the comment of grgr and reading your answer showed me that you are realy caring about your ea. Also its MADE IN GERMANY.
Thats realy an exception and a good sign!  8)
Keep on posting and supporting your ea. I am glad that we may have now a new honest vendor with enough programming skills to maybe build an ea that will be a long term winner.

@grgr
Like with any ea we saw the last years only time will tell if ForexCyborg is similiar to ForexRealprofit EA and his good support. Those guys are here since years tweaking and updating the ea. Maybe ForexCyborg is also not a one-hit wonder. But the price tag is realy not the problem. And if the history isnt enough anybody can wait some months longer.
You realy know that we saw much more crap without any real account or any support here the last years. Hopefully we will not disappointed again but after all the years i didnt expect anything from eas. Thats the only way they can suprise me  ;)

Thank you for your positive words.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Tradenow on May 08, 2018, 01:00:09 PM
I am not lying i just think that people believes that they will be successful with this ea are just naive. This is in your words. I've seen eas with much better results and cheaper, which failed very soon. Just a waste of money.

Like they believe with any ea. There isnt any difference. No need to project all this on this thread. Time will tell us the whole story.  :D
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: carlos.fsa on May 08, 2018, 01:34:17 PM
Hello FC,

I sent a PM for you two days ago but no response. Did you get it ?

Carlos

PS: I'm new in this forum but I hope to contribute with discussion and analysis of EA's.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: grgr on May 08, 2018, 01:41:42 PM
I am not lying i just think that people believes that they will be successful with this ea are just naive. This is in your words. I've seen eas with much better results and cheaper, which failed very soon. Just a waste of money.


you invested only 2000 eur with your ea

I prove you that it is not the truth and you still pretending that you are not lying.

you cannot prove me anything, you are a vendor, and a vendor is always taking money on selling anything. To be honest I really doesn't care about your opinion, I just wanted to warn the people who are going to buy your EA and invest real money on it to be careful. That's all.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on May 08, 2018, 01:47:22 PM
Obviously that's a good explanation, why you invested only 2000 eur with your ea, while each license costs 500$ and goes directly to your bank account. That's a very good business i must admit.

Let's be a little careful here about making statements based on assumptions and not facts. Forex Cyborg has stated he runs many accounts and has a sizeable investment in his product. No one is being forced or coerced into buying his EA. It is on the pricey side but he has said there are no issues with splitting a Premium licence 3 ways to make it more affordable. As with all these EA's time will tell.

It is nice to see a couple of vendors making positive contributions to the forum without shoving their product down members throats.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on May 08, 2018, 01:49:00 PM
I am not lying i just think that people believes that they will be successful with this ea are just naive. This is in your words. I've seen eas with much better results and cheaper, which failed very soon. Just a waste of money.


you invested only 2000 eur with your ea

I prove you that it is not the truth and you still pretending that you are not lying.

you cannot prove me anything, you are a vendor, and a vendor is always taking money on selling anything. To be honest I really doesn't care about your opinion, I just wanted to warn the people who are going to buy your EA and invest real money on it to be careful. That's all.

See above.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: taipan888 on May 08, 2018, 02:02:28 PM
i wouldn't invest a single penny in such a strategy. uncertain equity trend, 4 months of drawdown and only 12 months of history record. Only two of the pairs have more than 100 trades, so I don't know how do you want to draw any meaningful conclusions. 7,48 per month and 25 drawdown. And you want 700$ for this? I am afraid the only one who will make money on this ea will be the vendor, as usual. Also, how much of this 700$ license are you sharing with fxpig for advertisement?

I have bought 3 licenses since March and don´t regret so far.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on May 08, 2018, 03:31:43 PM

cyborg is simply the real deal. one of the most professional vendors in a very very long time to hit the scene.

i am convinced that this will be one entering the long term successful strategies, and no, i am not getting a cut for saying this.

all bt are as real as they can ever will be with mt4, plus real forward accounts, one even showing the dd period, i am simply dumbfounded that this cant be seen as a true gem by some.

my hats simply of to him.....................................



Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 08, 2018, 03:37:15 PM
Hello FC,

I sent a PM for you two days ago but no response. Did you get it ?

Carlos

PS: I'm new in this forum but I hope to contribute with discussion and analysis of EA's.

Hello Carlos,

I answered your e-mails two days ago (which seem not to arrive you). Today you wrote me here again and I answered this messages too.
You just wrote me "Thank you" as a answer, so I think everything is clear now?

Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 08, 2018, 03:45:07 PM

cyborg is simply the real deal. one of the most professional vendors in a very very long time to hit the scene.

i am convinced that this will be one entering the long term successful strategies, and no, i am not getting a cut for saying this.

all bt are as real as they can ever will be with mt4, plus real forward accounts, one even showing the dd period, i am simply dumbfounded that this cant be seen as a true gem by some.

my hats simply of to him.....................................

Hello reinerh,

Thank you very much for this big compliment!


@taipan888:
Thank you for this positive feed back from a customer. It's always very valuable for me too.

@HFT Group:
True words, that is how I see it too.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: BBrewer on May 08, 2018, 04:03:03 PM
Hi ForexCyborg,

I purchased you EA about a month ago, and I am very happy with it so far.  In a month I have made 164 pips.

A few posts back you mentioned there is a new version of the EA?  I did not receive any notification.  How can I download the new version.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 08, 2018, 04:50:55 PM
Hi ForexCyborg,

I purchased you EA about a month ago, and I am very happy with it so far.  In a month I have made 164 pips.

A few posts back you mentioned there is a new version of the EA?  I did not receive any notification.  How can I download the new version.

Hello BBrewer,

please send me a email at support@forexcyborg.com with your datas.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: carlos.fsa on May 08, 2018, 06:20:14 PM
Hello FC,

I sent a PM for you two days ago but no response. Did you get it ?

Carlos

PS: I'm new in this forum but I hope to contribute with discussion and analysis of EA's.

Hello Carlos,

I answered your e-mails two days ago (which seem not to arrive you). Today you wrote me here again and I answered this messages too.
You just wrote me "Thank you" as a answer, so I think everything is clear now?

Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

I really did not get your e-mail. Could you send again, please ? About the earlier message, I did not see, strange.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on May 08, 2018, 06:30:49 PM
Hello FC,

I sent a PM for you two days ago but no response. Did you get it ?

Carlos

PS: I'm new in this forum but I hope to contribute with discussion and analysis of EA's.

Hello Carlos,

I answered your e-mails two days ago (which seem not to arrive you). Today you wrote me here again and I answered this messages too.
You just wrote me "Thank you" as a answer, so I think everything is clear now?

Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

I really did not get your e-mail. Could you send again, please ? About the earlier message, I did not see, strange.

May I suggest using PM to each other; somehow,  someway,  you will meet.  Lol :)

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 08, 2018, 06:59:09 PM
Hello FC,

I sent a PM for you two days ago but no response. Did you get it ?

Carlos

PS: I'm new in this forum but I hope to contribute with discussion and analysis of EA's.

Hello Carlos,

I answered your e-mails two days ago (which seem not to arrive you). Today you wrote me here again and I answered this messages too.
You just wrote me "Thank you" as a answer, so I think everything is clear now?

Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

I really did not get your e-mail. Could you send again, please ? About the earlier message, I did not see, strange.


Hello Carlos,

we got already 3 clients that have not received my emails the last days.
We will check our mail provider now. In the meanwhile I send you a message here with all the details. Please check it.


Best regards
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: IFFTrader on May 09, 2018, 01:18:35 AM
I too benefit from cyborg EA with the earlier 30% discount. It is a very profitable EA and support is great. At first I have issue matching trades with Cyborg at Global Prime and the vendor fix and send me an interim version. My results now match fxgermany which is on the same broker and also vendor account on fxpig.

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 09, 2018, 07:39:26 AM
Hello guys,

another user just wrote me, that he doesn't received my e-mail answer.
If anyone is waiting for a reply of me, please send me a message here with your e-mail adress, so that I can send you the answer again. I replyed on every e-mail currently.

btw.: It seems that the issue is now beeing fixed (hopefully :) )

@IFFTrader:
Thank you very much for your valuable feed back and your help to fix that issue.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: lucahk on May 09, 2018, 03:44:59 PM
Anyone interested in splitting Licence ( Premium ) ?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Gpoint on May 09, 2018, 04:29:33 PM
Hi FC.
I sent you an email a couple of hours ago asking you to change the account number where I run my Cyborg EA: did you receive it?
Please, check your mail and back to me a.s.a.p., thank you.
F
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 09, 2018, 04:51:06 PM
Hi FC.
I sent you an email a couple of hours ago asking you to change the account number where I run my Cyborg EA: did you receive it?
Please, check your mail and back to me a.s.a.p., thank you.
F

Hello Gpoint,

I answered your PM and e-mail.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: anjelo on May 10, 2018, 06:36:28 AM
Anyone interested in splitting Licence ( Premium ) ?

I am interested. :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: anjelo on May 10, 2018, 06:42:59 AM
Mr. Forex Cyborg

Any thoughts about running this EA on a cent account? Do you think the result would be quite similar with the result on your live account?

Thanks.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 10, 2018, 12:21:41 PM
Mr. Forex Cyborg

Any thoughts about running this EA on a cent account? Do you think the result would be quite similar with the result on your live account?

Thanks.

Hello anjelo,

sure, you can use it on a cent account too, but all cent account brokers I know have very high spreads. This will reduce the overall profit + will result in less trades.
We recommend to use a ECN broker with low spreads.

Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: anjelo on May 11, 2018, 12:48:37 AM
Mr. Forex Cyborg

Any thoughts about running this EA on a cent account? Do you think the result would be quite similar with the result on your live account?

Thanks.

Hello anjelo,

sure, you can use it on a cent account too, but all cent account brokers I know have very high spreads. This will reduce the overall profit + will result in less trades.
We recommend to use a ECN broker with low spreads.

Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

Thanks FC.

Btw, you said that you are open for license sharing/splitting for the premium account. How would you manage the purchase, splitting, future updates for the shared license? Or it is a matter that we (the buyer) should take care on our side?

Thanks.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on May 11, 2018, 12:49:41 AM
Hello, recent Cyborg enthusiasts; those most recent installs as of yesterday, using the Premium version, get any trades yet, or am I the only one waiting for the first trade to materialize so as to confirm all is set right? LOL  :D

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on May 11, 2018, 12:54:52 AM
Mr. Forex Cyborg

Any thoughts about running this EA on a cent account? Do you think the result would be quite similar with the result on your live account?

Thanks.

Hello anjelo,

sure, you can use it on a cent account too, but all cent account brokers I know have very high spreads. This will reduce the overall profit + will result in less trades.
We recommend to use a ECN broker with low spreads.

Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

Thanks FC.

Btw, you said that you are open for license sharing/splitting for the premium account. How would you manage the purchase, splitting, future updates for the shared license? Or it is a matter that we (the buyer) should take care on our side?

Thanks.

Hello, Angelo. Perhaps I can answer this question since I was invited to purchase the triple license with two other members.

1- You need a member to take the initiative to find two other members.

2- One of the three has to make the purchase under his id after collecting each other's proportion.

3- That member will from then on be in charge of any account or update changes.

In other words, there must be community and trust for this to work.

I stand to be corrected if Cyborg has another way.

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 11, 2018, 09:31:54 AM
Mr. Forex Cyborg

Any thoughts about running this EA on a cent account? Do you think the result would be quite similar with the result on your live account?

Thanks.

Hello anjelo,

sure, you can use it on a cent account too, but all cent account brokers I know have very high spreads. This will reduce the overall profit + will result in less trades.
We recommend to use a ECN broker with low spreads.

Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

Thanks FC.

Btw, you said that you are open for license sharing/splitting for the premium account. How would you manage the purchase, splitting, future updates for the shared license? Or it is a matter that we (the buyer) should take care on our side?

Thanks.

Hello anjelo,

splitting the licenses is ok for me, but I prefer to communicate only with the buyer as I have only the name and confirmation about the purchase from this guy.
So it would be the task of your "group-leader" to share it.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 11, 2018, 09:33:00 AM
Hello, recent Cyborg enthusiasts; those most recent installs as of yesterday, using the Premium version, get any trades yet, or am I the only one waiting for the first trade to materialize so as to confirm all is set right? LOL  :D

Regards,
HumbleTrader

Hello HumbleTrader,

sadly, we had not a single trade yesterday. On none of our forwards accounts. Hopefully we will see more action soon.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 11, 2018, 09:33:19 AM
Mr. Forex Cyborg

Any thoughts about running this EA on a cent account? Do you think the result would be quite similar with the result on your live account?

Thanks.

Hello anjelo,

sure, you can use it on a cent account too, but all cent account brokers I know have very high spreads. This will reduce the overall profit + will result in less trades.
We recommend to use a ECN broker with low spreads.

Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

Thanks FC.

Btw, you said that you are open for license sharing/splitting for the premium account. How would you manage the purchase, splitting, future updates for the shared license? Or it is a matter that we (the buyer) should take care on our side?

Thanks.

Hello, Angelo. Perhaps I can answer this question since I was invited to purchase the triple license with two other members.

1- You need a member to take the initiative to find two other members.

2- One of the three has to make the purchase under his id after collecting each other's proportion.

3- That member will from then on be in charge of any account or update changes.

In other words, there must be community and trust for this to work.

I stand to be corrected if Cyborg has another way.

Regards,
HumbleTrader


Yes exactly!
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: lucahk on May 14, 2018, 05:25:29 AM
Hi.
   I am setting up charts.
The time in MT4 Market Watch is now 08:20 and GMT is now 05:20  so it is GMT+3

GMT auto calculation is on, and EA's HUD is giving me GMT+5 .....  ::)

Why is it like this ? Is the GMT offset calculated correctly for everyone here ?


Thanks,

Luca.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on May 14, 2018, 03:26:01 PM
Hi.
   I am setting up charts.
The time in MT4 Market Watch is now 08:20 and GMT is now 05:20  so it is GMT+3

GMT auto calculation is on, and EA's HUD is giving me GMT+5 .....  ::)

Why is it like this ? Is the GMT offset calculated correctly for everyone here ?


Thanks,

Luca.

Mine appears to be.

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on May 14, 2018, 04:03:11 PM
Hi.
   I am setting up charts.
The time in MT4 Market Watch is now 08:20 and GMT is now 05:20  so it is GMT+3

GMT auto calculation is on, and EA's HUD is giving me GMT+5 .....  ::)

Why is it like this ? Is the GMT offset calculated correctly for everyone here ?


Thanks,

Luca.

Mine appears to be.

Cheers,
Rod

Perhaps a pic can speak 1000 words.

Regards,

HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: lucahk on May 14, 2018, 04:13:11 PM
Many thanks for the feedback regarding the GMT offset.

I have just discovered where was the issue: I had set up the EA on a newly deployed server and I didn't notice the computer time was not synchronized.... after synchronizing, the GMT is calculated correctly ; so it seems there is some fault in the GMT offset logic, as it checks for the computer time instead of the MT4 server time ...

Regards,

Luca.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 14, 2018, 05:08:44 PM
Many thanks for the feedback regarding the GMT offset.

I have just discovered where was the issue: I had set up the EA on a newly deployed server and I didn't notice the computer time was not synchronized.... after synchronizing, the GMT is calculated correctly ; so it seems there is some fault in the GMT offset logic, as it checks for the computer time instead of the MT4 server time ...

Regards,

Luca.


Hello Luca,

the GMT-auto calculation is quite simple: Mt4 server time (= TimeCurrent() in mql) minus current GMT Time (= TimeGMT() in mql). Nothing special or complex. I have several users from all over the world that are using different time zones without any problem. So far your bug report is the first one in this case. It seems that the other users don't have a problem with the auto calculation.

If there is a bug, than it will be in the metatrader functions. In this case you have the possibility to set the GMT by your own. Just disable the "Auto GMT" setting.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: carlos.fsa on May 16, 2018, 09:01:32 PM
Hello,

Why does Cyborg opened a trade GBPAUD some minutes ago ? Is in time ?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 19, 2018, 02:27:06 PM
Hello,

Why does Cyborg opened a trade GBPAUD some minutes ago ? Is in time ?

Hello Carlos,

Forex Cyborg shows in the HUD if a pair has reached the current trading time.
And you can always compare your result with our live account, if you are still unsure.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: anjelo on May 25, 2018, 12:07:03 AM
Hi Forex Cyborg and fellow users,

I've been using FC for more than a week, since May 16th. I deployed this EA to a cent account at Forex4You.
The thing is this EA has not triggered even a single trade. I have followed all the instructions in the manual for the installation.
Everything seemed to be OK, I got the smiley face, and also an active trading frame in the designated time range. That said I never got a trade.

For the record, FC in the official account has made 15 trades since May 17th and 3 trades are going as I am writing this. In total it already has 18 trades.

Do you think that the absence of trades were due to the EA being used in a cent account? I realize that different price feed and spread could cause different result. But in my opinion, the result I got is not comparable (let alone close) to the official live account. I just want to know what could be the reason for FC not triggering any single trade on my cent account.

I used amazon EC2 for the VPS and ping time is about 2.4ms.
I attached some of the screenshots in case you need further observation.

Your enlightenment, please. 

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on May 25, 2018, 12:14:27 AM
anjelo,

what broker is that ?? never seen such tight spreads on a cent account ??
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: anjelo on May 25, 2018, 12:16:01 AM
anjelo,

what broker is that ?? never seen such tight spreads on a cent account ??

it's https://www.forex4you.com/en/
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on May 25, 2018, 12:30:23 AM
anjelo,

what broker is that ?? never seen such tight spreads on a cent account ??

it's https://www.forex4you.com/en/

thanks.

was just thinking, no trades your particular cyborg not trading might be smarter then the vendors accounts.

all accounts i can find did trade, but only losses the last 10 days or so. call yourself lucky :)

but it still makes no sense why you did not get any trades with such low spreads.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on May 25, 2018, 01:54:26 AM
anjelo,

click on terminal tab, then journal and see if you have any errors.

also another thing came to mind, during trading hours = when they are active it shows in the hud.

check that no high spread alert appears for most of the session.

and or that you can open such small order sizes on a cent account you have .06, usually they start with .1
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: IFFTrader on May 25, 2018, 02:34:34 AM
This is a Russian broker with cents account. Likely spread is high during the trading hour.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: anjelo on May 25, 2018, 03:09:16 AM
Yeah. I might be lucky on this one.  :)

I have checked the journal and everything is fine. No errors or other suspicious things.

I can put an order as low as 0.01 in this account. In fact I have another EA running in this account that can open 0.01 order.

Thanks, reinerh for the input.

Quote

thanks.

was just thinking, no trades your particular cyborg not trading might be smarter then the vendors accounts.

all accounts i can find did trade, but only losses the last 10 days or so. call yourself lucky :)

but it still makes no sense why you did not get any trades with such low spreads.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 26, 2018, 02:05:47 PM
Hello anjelo,

as far as I can see your set up seems to be correct. I would say there should be no reason that you get no trades.

Please send me your expert-log to support@forexcyborg.com so that I can check it.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on May 30, 2018, 12:27:52 PM
Here is a very good article of "wallstreet.forex.robot" I like to share, if you don't see/read it already: http://www.fxautomater.com/blog/how-to-be-a-successful-forex-trader-using-forex-expert-advisors-part-3-19

If you think that a EA strategy is good, than try to start during a DD not during a new equity high (like nearly 95% of my customers)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: carlos.fsa on June 04, 2018, 02:34:10 AM
Here is a very good article of "wallstreet.forex.robot" I like to share, if you don't see/read it already: http://www.fxautomater.com/blog/how-to-be-a-successful-forex-trader-using-forex-expert-advisors-part-3-19

If you think that a EA strategy is good, than try to start during a DD not during a new equity high (like nearly 95% of my customers)

Hi ForexCyborg,

The problem is that we never know if the strategy will continue to work, or if DD will recover. In my opinion, we have all the time monitoring the statistical results to control position sizing.

Carlos
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Gpoint on June 05, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
Dear Paul at Fxcyborg,

I bought one full license 2 days ago from Mark (Tradenow) and I'm still waiting for my license number in order to run your EA on my account.
Jan (jhwaxx), that bought the entire Premium package (which my license is a part of), also sent you an email asking for the consequent change in account number.

PLEASE, provide it to me A.S.A.P., thank you.

Gp
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on June 05, 2018, 04:35:51 PM
Dear Paul at Fxcyborg,

I bought one full license 2 days ago from Mark (Tradenow) and I'm still waiting for my license number in order to run your EA on my account.
Jan (jhwaxx), that bought the entire Premium package (which my license is a part of), also sent you an email asking for the consequent change in account number.

PLEASE, provide it to me A.S.A.P., thank you.

Gp

Dear Fabio,

1.) This not the right place for support request.
2.) Why do you tell anyone which names behind a user name? Do you asked them if they allow this?
3.) jhwaxx is a customer, because he bought the EA. He asked for a different license key change and I send him the new license key already 7 hours ago.

I allow to split the licenses, but I'm not interest to have direct contact to every guy. I only support the guy that bought the license. If you want to have direct support from me, than please buy your own license.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: laracroft on July 02, 2018, 06:46:03 PM
In the last few weeks Forex Cyborg v 1.2 is going very well, although this period is very difficult for Asian scalpers, so much so that some experienced users of this forum have advised to switch off Asian scalpers as Best Scalper Free.
I noticed that the trades go immediately in the right direction and are closed quickly in earnings: a sign that the EA is in tune with the market  :)
On my real ICMarkets account I got very similar results to those on the official FXPIG account  :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: IFFTrader on July 03, 2018, 07:13:24 AM
I have good performance too running at global prime. It is not broker dependent.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on July 03, 2018, 07:55:06 AM
Thank you for your positive feedback guys  :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petersurrey on July 06, 2018, 05:29:06 PM
In the last few weeks Forex Cyborg v 1.2 is going very well, although this period is very difficult for Asian scalpers, so much so that some experienced users of this forum have advised to switch off Asian scalpers as Best Scalper Free.
I noticed that the trades go immediately in the right direction and are closed quickly in earnings: a sign that the EA is in tune with the market  :)
On my real ICMarkets account I got very similar results to those on the official FXPIG account  :)

Agreed... and the reason being that cyborg is not an Asian scalper...)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: pipsbuster on July 11, 2018, 12:38:01 AM
Looks like there will be a huge blow with this one tonight. Just like with that other popular Asian scalper (Best Scalper), it was only a matter of time before the market's infinite randomness beats this strategy, too.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: IFFTrader on July 11, 2018, 02:06:18 AM
7 open trades look strange. I thought max is 3 trades with correlation pairs. I hope vendor able to explain the logic.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Archer Asset Management on July 11, 2018, 04:22:50 AM
Looks like there will be a huge blow with this one tonight. Just like with that other popular Asian scalper (Best Scalper), it was only a matter of time before the market's infinite randomness beats this strategy, too.

Much agreed. No matter how good the strategy, once it's commercialised the market will find a way to trade against it. Best to develop and keep optimising your own strategy.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on July 11, 2018, 07:19:13 AM
7 open trades look strange. I thought max is 3 trades with correlation pairs. I hope vendor able to explain the logic.

I think you need to read the explanation again:

"The achilles heel of every multicurrency asian scalper is, that they open multiple positions of the same currency in different currency pairs and upper the risk in case of a strong trend. Sometimes up to 4-6 positions at the same time.
We are proud to deliver a solution for this problem with our innovative 'currency correlation risk-manager'.
It scans the open positions and block multiple positions of the same currency.
Per default Forex Cyborg will allow max. 2 positions of the same currency (that value can be changed in the settings).
A small example to explain it: If Forex Cyborg already opened a EURCAD - sell and a CADCHF - buy, than it will block USDCAD - sell or GBPCAD - sell, until one of the two opened order are closed. GBPCAD - buy would be possible in this case."

And this is exactly what Forex Cyborg did. Forex Cyborg avoided to open a AUDCAD - buy, a AUDUSD - buy and a AUDCHF - buy, because there was a open EURAUD - sell and GBPAUD - sell.

Other trades like CADCHF, EURJPY or GBPCAD (because of a different currency) were open too last night, that is why you saw more than 3 trades.
I never told anywhere that Forex Cyborg will open max 3 trades. More than 3 trades are opened quite often.

In my view Forex Cyborg proved his real power with this tool: Limit risk and make it calculable. My risk per trade on the main signal is 4.5%. So in case of two full stop losses, this would be max. 9%.

Last trading session we had a quite unnormal market behaviour, but this will happen from time to time. Scenarios like that happend in the past too and will happen in the future. Having moves of over 100 pips just a few minutes / hours directly before or after the rollover time is always a problem for every (pre-)asian scalper.

We had the biggest move at the AUD-pairs. For example EURAUD: It started some minutes before the rollover and had a move of over 100 pips in less than 2 hours.
But we had only one SL. GBPAUD could be closed at a pullback with only -2.45%. The other 4 trades that were yet closed in the last trading session made in sum around +0.51%. There are two open trades remaining currently with around -1.25%

Looking at the circle markets (high risk) account shows another image. I disabled here the correlation risk manager for testing reasons since the beginning. As you can see we still have here open trades like AUDCHF - buy and AUDUSD - buy.

So overall the loss is very limited thanks to the correlation risk manager.
It's not possible to avoid loosing trades at any strategy, but we are able to control risk and having a good money management.

At the end we are having currently a DD around 7%. As long as it stay below 30% (what I expect as a max. DD based on the risk per trade-setting and my calculations / back tests) at the current risk level, I don't worry at all. We are still up at +89% with +1871 pips at the FXPIG account for only this year.

Compared to some other multi-currency night scalper, I'm quite happy with the results:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/EOSFX/eos-mid-risk/1765327 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/EOSFX/eos-mid-risk/1765327)
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/ethereum/2540759 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/ethereum/2540759)
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/evonightea/2252381 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/evonightea/2252381)


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: pipsbuster on July 11, 2018, 09:23:03 AM
I avoided yesterday’s loss entirely by simply not trading with your bot. As a matter of fact, now I don’t trade with any bot. The loss was indeed fully predictable because bots either cannot withstand the market’s randomness or start getting counter-traded.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: IFFTrader on July 11, 2018, 09:28:47 AM
Thanks Forex Cyborg for the detail explanation. Nobody knows the correlation engine better than you. I still cool with this EA. Will continue to trade with it.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on July 11, 2018, 09:43:21 AM
I avoided yesterday’s loss entirely by simply not trading with your bot. As a matter of fact, now I don’t trade with any bot. The loss was indeed fully predictable because bots either cannot withstand the market’s randomness or start getting counter-traded.

If it would be fully predictable, than you would be a millionaire. You could just open hundrets of lots right before the rollover time and open (for example) a EURAUD - buy.
Do you did it? No? Why not?

I'm happy for you, that you could avoid losses, but there was no way to predict the future. (I hope) No retail trader can do this. The same rule applies to EAs too.

What we can do is to discover some market predicting models. But you always have periods of range with different amplitudes, periods of strong market impulses with follow-ups, or without. Even the best models are not a sure thing - you can have months of drawdown, when the market is not fitting the model.
And that is what Forex Cyborg is doing: Trading a predicting model.
As you can see in the back tests and in the forward tests there are several SL. That's a part of the strategy and happend once today + will happen more often in the future.

I don't think that the market is "fully predictable" at anytime.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on July 11, 2018, 09:45:54 AM
Thanks Forex Cyborg for the detail explanation. Nobody knows the correlation engine better than you. I still cool with this EA. Will continue to trade with it.

I'm happy that I could help you here  :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: pipsbuster on July 11, 2018, 11:50:14 AM
I avoided yesterday’s loss entirely by simply not trading with your bot. As a matter of fact, now I don’t trade with any bot. The loss was indeed fully predictable because bots either cannot withstand the market’s randomness or start getting counter-traded.

If it would be fully predictable, than you would be a millionaire. You could just open hundrets of lots right before the rollover time and open (for example) a EURAUD - buy.
Do you did it? No? Why not?

I'm happy for you, that you could avoid losses, but there was no way to predict the future. (I hope) No retail trader can do this. The same rule applies to EAs too.

What we can do is to discover some market predicting models. But you always have periods of range with different amplitudes, periods of strong market impulses with follow-ups, or without. Even the best models are not a sure thing - you can have months of drawdown, when the market is not fitting the model.
And that is what Forex Cyborg is doing: Trading a predicting model.
As you can see in the back tests and in the forward tests there are several SL. That's a part of the strategy and happend once today + will happen more often in the future.

I don't think that the market is "fully predictable" at anytime.

No such thing as "market predicting models" - just those players who can move the market and those who can't. Those who can always win.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: IFFTrader on July 11, 2018, 01:30:14 PM
So you are here to advice everyone to give up trading?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on July 11, 2018, 01:37:18 PM
So you are here to advice everyone to give up trading?

No I think he want to tell you that you should only trade in the forex market, when you have enough money to move the market.  ;)
Everyone else will fail, because there are no "market predicting models". Now you know the truth ;)

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: pipsbuster on July 11, 2018, 06:57:57 PM
So you are here to advice everyone to give up trading?

No I think he want to tell you that you should only trade in the forex market, when you have enough money to move the market.  ;)
Everyone else will fail, because there are no "market predicting models". Now you know the truth ;)

There’s absolutely nothing to suggest such trading sessions can’t happen in a row - quite the opposite is the case, as the number of possible scenarios on Forex is infinite. It will then take many months before the loss is recovered (if ever). As far as the odds go, they’re clearly in favor of the market makers.

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: dasher1980 on July 11, 2018, 07:07:32 PM
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As far as the odds go, they’re clearly in favor of the market makers.

This might be true, I guess thats the reason why you would never buy any EA on the market. But with this knowledge and to add something to this tread. Whats your suggestion how to make money instead in FX?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Trunk on July 11, 2018, 07:35:15 PM
So you are here to advice everyone to give up trading?

No I think he want to tell you that you should only trade in the forex market, when you have enough money to move the market.  ;)
Everyone else will fail, because there are no "market predicting models". Now you know the truth ;)

That's why we should pick cryptocurrencies with low cap to be able to rule the game, pumping and dumping when we want
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on July 11, 2018, 07:49:07 PM
So you are here to advice everyone to give up trading?

No I think he want to tell you that you should only trade in the forex market, when you have enough money to move the market.  ;)
Everyone else will fail, because there are no "market predicting models". Now you know the truth ;)

That's why we should pick cryptocurrencies with low cap to be able to rule the game, pumping and dumping when we want

Heard that before. Can you tell us which crypto you own, entry price, so we can follow your great success? The previous member, a few months ago, spoke about some hotshot Bitcoin promoter
 
(https://nypost.com/2017/07/19/cybersecurity-legend-i-will-eat-my-d-k-if-i-lose-500k-bitcoin-bet/ )

eating his dick if BTC didn't reach 1/2 Million +; I think by now at the current price of 6,300$, he has problems urinating.  ;)

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on July 11, 2018, 08:43:26 PM
Straying a little off topic here.........let's try keep posts relevant to forex cyborg.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: pipsbuster on July 11, 2018, 11:10:06 PM
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As far as the odds go, they’re clearly in favor of the market makers.

This might be true, I guess thats the reason why you would never buy any EA on the market. But with this knowledge and to add something to this tread. Whats your suggestion how to make money instead in FX?
Get a day job or start a bucket shop.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: anjelo on July 12, 2018, 04:36:16 PM
Forex Cyborg, sorry if I miss it.. But could we use this EA on 4 digit broker by just using the default setting?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: pipsbuster on July 13, 2018, 11:03:09 AM
Just as I mentioned nothing prevents losing sessions from taking place in a row - and they did.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: dasher1980 on July 13, 2018, 11:43:20 AM
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Just as I mentioned nothing prevents losing sessions from taking place in a row - and they did.

You must be a millionaire by now, you seem to know every market movement in advance for each EA :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Gpoint on July 13, 2018, 12:14:21 PM
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Just as I mentioned nothing prevents losing sessions from taking place in a row - and they did.

You must be a millionaire by now, you seem to know every market movement in advance for each EA :)

No, he just pop up like a mushroom after a strong rain saying to all of us....I TOLD YOU!!

What a gratification for him but, above all, what a high contribution for the whole forum, a true "always positive", purposeful, constructive and irreplaceable guy!

Thank you pipsbuster, how would we do without your pearls of wisdom?!...

Couldn't live without you and your "after loss" review...  8)


Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on July 13, 2018, 02:48:43 PM
Quote
Just as I mentioned nothing prevents losing sessions from taking place in a row - and they did.

You must be a millionaire by now, you seem to know every market movement in advance for each EA :)

No, he just pop up like a mushroom after a strong rain saying to all of us....I TOLD YOU!!

What a gratification for him but, above all, what a high contribution for the whole forum, a true "always positive", purposeful, constructive and irreplaceable guy!

Thank you pipsbuster, how would we do without your pearls of wisdom?!...

Couldn't live without you and your "after loss" review...  8)

Once again.........straying off topic here. This thread is for forex cyborg, not personal digs between members.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: atomico on July 26, 2018, 07:46:40 AM
good morning,

Cyborg, please update the myfxbook account, it's stopped at 19 july.

account is still active?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: IFFTrader on July 26, 2018, 08:02:31 AM
It’s doing great since the two day of DD. One of my account recovered from the SL but not yet high watermark. The other is less than 1% away from recovery. You can check forexgermany account as reference as well.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on July 26, 2018, 01:47:17 PM
good morning,

Cyborg, please update the myfxbook account, it's stopped at 19 july.

account is still active?


Hey atomico,

do you mean the "Circle markets (High risk)" account?
I already saw it yesterday myself and fixed it today.

The four other accounts had no refresh problem.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: atomico on July 27, 2018, 06:26:25 PM
hi Cyborg,

yes, i am follow only the high risk account for the moment.

thanks for updating :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: IFFTrader on July 28, 2018, 06:16:54 AM
Is there a new version announced?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on July 30, 2018, 06:39:17 AM
Is there a new version announced?

Hello IFFTrader,

not yet. I will always post the update details when a new update is available.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on August 13, 2018, 07:03:17 AM
After a good market opening, our main FXPIG account has reached a new equity high again:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg/2168587 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg/2168587)

After some months of history, I decided to release a IC Markets live account. Many members + buyer are using this broker.
Personally I don't like them, because I'm pretty sure that they are not a full A-Book broker.

You can find the results here:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-ic-markets/2593548 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-ic-markets/2593548)

This account is using the same settings, like the FXPIG, Darwinex, FinPro and Circle Markets account (except the Circle Markets (High risk) account).


Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on August 13, 2018, 07:11:47 AM
After a good market opening, our main FXPIG account has reached a new equity high again:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg/2168587 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg/2168587)

After some months of history, I decided to release a IC Markets live account. Many members + buyer are using this broker.
Personally I don't like them, because I'm pretty sure that they are not a full A-Book broker.

You can find the results here:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-ic-markets/2593548 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-ic-markets/2593548)

This account is using the same settings, like the FXPIG, Darwinex, FinPro and Circle Markets account (except the Circle Markets (High risk) account).

Quite a difference in results compared to mine.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jonpearce/forex-cyborg-v12--ic/2584399
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on August 13, 2018, 08:58:38 AM
After a good market opening, our main FXPIG account has reached a new equity high again:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg/2168587 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg/2168587)

After some months of history, I decided to release a IC Markets live account. Many members + buyer are using this broker.
Personally I don't like them, because I'm pretty sure that they are not a full A-Book broker.

You can find the results here:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-ic-markets/2593548 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-ic-markets/2593548)

This account is using the same settings, like the FXPIG, Darwinex, FinPro and Circle Markets account (except the Circle Markets (High risk) account).

Quite a difference in results compared to mine.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jonpearce/forex-cyborg-v12--ic/2584399

Hello Jon,

we already had a private discussion about your Forex Cyborg - Version.
I already pointed out, that you are using a older cracked version of Forex Cyborg.

For everyone else, I will explain it in detail:

After the release of v1.2, you added the pairs USDJPY, EURJPY and CHFJPY on this account (this pairs were released the first time in v1.2):

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jonpearce/forex-cyborg--ic-markets/2492458

As you can see you had there some JPY trades between the 14.5. till 6.6.
This trades had all a SL of 60 pips. But v1.2 had SL between 110-135 pips for this pairs and it's impossible to change the SL for a single pair in Forex Cyborg.

And it was impossible to trade this pairs with v1.1

So you need a cracked version to be able to trade this pairs with v1.1 (or v1.0)

You told me that you bought it somewhere from a guy, but your license was not registered in my database.

Overall this is all shady and because of this I will not take any time to analyse how the differences are possible, until I'm sure that you are a customer of mine + have bought a registered copy of Forex Cyborg. I don't even have a "Jon" in my database yet.

If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on August 13, 2018, 09:23:42 AM
After a good market opening, our main FXPIG account has reached a new equity high again:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg/2168587 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg/2168587)

After some months of history, I decided to release a IC Markets live account. Many members + buyer are using this broker.
Personally I don't like them, because I'm pretty sure that they are not a full A-Book broker.

You can find the results here:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-ic-markets/2593548 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-ic-markets/2593548)

This account is using the same settings, like the FXPIG, Darwinex, FinPro and Circle Markets account (except the Circle Markets (High risk) account).

Quite a difference in results compared to mine.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jonpearce/forex-cyborg-v12--ic/2584399

Hello Jon,

we already had a private discussion about your Forex Cyborg - Version.
I already pointed out, that you are using a older cracked version of Forex Cyborg.

For everyone else, I will explain it in detail:

After the release of v1.2, you added the pairs USDJPY, EURJPY and CHFJPY on this account (this pairs were released the first time in v1.2):

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jonpearce/forex-cyborg--ic-markets/2492458

As you can see you had there some JPY trades between the 14.5. till 6.6.
This trades had all a SL of 60 pips. But v1.2 had SL between 110-135 pips for this pairs and it's impossible to change the SL for a single pair in Forex Cyborg.

And it was impossible to trade this pairs with v1.1

So you need a cracked version to be able to trade this pairs with v1.1 (or v1.0)

You told me that you bought it somewhere from a guy, but your license was not registered in my database.

Overall this is all shady and because of this I will not take any time to analyse how the differences are possible, until I'm sure that you are a customer of mine + have bought a registered copy of Forex Cyborg. I don't even have a "Jon" in my database yet.

If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

Excuse me? This is a fully paid version I purchased as a joint purchase with another forum member!
You will post a public apology in this thread or you can take a (forced) break from here to consider your false accusation.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on August 13, 2018, 10:00:54 AM

Hello Jon,

we already had a private discussion about your Forex Cyborg - Version.
I already pointed out, that you are using a older cracked version of Forex Cyborg.

For everyone else, I will explain it in detail:

After the release of v1.2, you added the pairs USDJPY, EURJPY and CHFJPY on this account (this pairs were released the first time in v1.2):

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jonpearce/forex-cyborg--ic-markets/2492458

As you can see you had there some JPY trades between the 14.5. till 6.6.
This trades had all a SL of 60 pips. But v1.2 had SL between 110-135 pips for this pairs and it's impossible to change the SL for a single pair in Forex Cyborg.

And it was impossible to trade this pairs with v1.1

So you need a cracked version to be able to trade this pairs with v1.1 (or v1.0)

You told me that you bought it somewhere from a guy, but your license was not registered in my database.

Overall this is all shady and because of this I will not take any time to analyse how the differences are possible, until I'm sure that you are a customer of mine + have bought a registered copy of Forex Cyborg. I don't even have a "Jon" in my database yet.

If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

Excuse me? This is a fully paid version I purchased as a joint purchase with another forum member!
You will post a public apology in this thread or you can take a (forced) break from here to consider your false accusation.


I don't have a problem to apologize for a false accusation if I'm wrong, but I only wrote a fact.

I have this cracked version too from 2-3 different guys that send me this version that was sold by some crackers. Because of this I know that they made it possible to run Forex Cyborg on pairs that are not official released and are not recommended.
This is what happend at one of your accounts and this is what I wrote in my last post + what I wrote you in a PM too.

And as I said:
"If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case."

But instead that you send me a proof of it, you send me only:

"I strongly suggest you get your facts right before accusing a moderator of using a cracked version of your EA.
When I became aware the version I was using was unlicensed I purchased a share in a full licence.
I suggest you amend your accusation promptly an issue an apology post haste."

Just contact the guy that sold you a copy and ask him about the transaction id.

You can PM me the details and I will write here, that you have a licensed version, if this is the case.

The only thing I'm currently 100% sure about is that you had a cracked version in the past (what you agree about based on your PM)


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on August 13, 2018, 10:31:38 AM

Hello Jon,

we already had a private discussion about your Forex Cyborg - Version.
I already pointed out, that you are using a older cracked version of Forex Cyborg.

For everyone else, I will explain it in detail:

After the release of v1.2, you added the pairs USDJPY, EURJPY and CHFJPY on this account (this pairs were released the first time in v1.2):

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jonpearce/forex-cyborg--ic-markets/2492458

As you can see you had there some JPY trades between the 14.5. till 6.6.
This trades had all a SL of 60 pips. But v1.2 had SL between 110-135 pips for this pairs and it's impossible to change the SL for a single pair in Forex Cyborg.

And it was impossible to trade this pairs with v1.1

So you need a cracked version to be able to trade this pairs with v1.1 (or v1.0)

You told me that you bought it somewhere from a guy, but your license was not registered in my database.

Overall this is all shady and because of this I will not take any time to analyse how the differences are possible, until I'm sure that you are a customer of mine + have bought a registered copy of Forex Cyborg. I don't even have a "Jon" in my database yet.

If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

Excuse me? This is a fully paid version I purchased as a joint purchase with another forum member!
You will post a public apology in this thread or you can take a (forced) break from here to consider your false accusation.


I don't have a problem to apologize for a false accusation if I'm wrong, but I only wrote a fact.

I have this cracked version too from 2-3 different guys that send me this version that was sold by some crackers. Because of this I know that they made it possible to run Forex Cyborg on pairs that are not official released and are not recommended.
This is what happend at one of your accounts and this is what I wrote in my last post + what I wrote you in a PM too.

And as I said:
"If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case."

But instead that you send me a proof of it, you send me only:

"I strongly suggest you get your facts right before accusing a moderator of using a cracked version of your EA.
When I became aware the version I was using was unlicensed I purchased a share in a full licence.
I suggest you amend your accusation promptly an issue an apology post haste."

Just contact the guy that sold you a copy and ask him about the transaction id.

You can PM me the details and I will write here, that you have a licensed version, if this is the case.

The only thing I'm currently 100% sure about is that you had a cracked version in the past (what you agree about based on your PM)


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team


In addition........if we are going to start airing our dirty laundry, here is your reply to me :

"Hello,

send me over the transaction id + mt4 account number and I will check if your license is official registered.

I don't care if you are a moderator or not. I only tell facts and you confirmed, that you used a cracked version.

As written in the thread: I will apologize for a false accusation as soon as I have a proof that you are not using any cracked version anymore.



Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team"

Do you normally show that level of disrespect as a Junior forum member for Senior members and Mods?

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on August 13, 2018, 10:55:32 AM

Hello Jon,

we already had a private discussion about your Forex Cyborg - Version.
I already pointed out, that you are using a older cracked version of Forex Cyborg.

For everyone else, I will explain it in detail:

After the release of v1.2, you added the pairs USDJPY, EURJPY and CHFJPY on this account (this pairs were released the first time in v1.2):

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jonpearce/forex-cyborg--ic-markets/2492458

As you can see you had there some JPY trades between the 14.5. till 6.6.
This trades had all a SL of 60 pips. But v1.2 had SL between 110-135 pips for this pairs and it's impossible to change the SL for a single pair in Forex Cyborg.

And it was impossible to trade this pairs with v1.1

So you need a cracked version to be able to trade this pairs with v1.1 (or v1.0)

You told me that you bought it somewhere from a guy, but your license was not registered in my database.

Overall this is all shady and because of this I will not take any time to analyse how the differences are possible, until I'm sure that you are a customer of mine + have bought a registered copy of Forex Cyborg. I don't even have a "Jon" in my database yet.

If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

Excuse me? This is a fully paid version I purchased as a joint purchase with another forum member!
You will post a public apology in this thread or you can take a (forced) break from here to consider your false accusation.


I don't have a problem to apologize for a false accusation if I'm wrong, but I only wrote a fact.

I have this cracked version too from 2-3 different guys that send me this version that was sold by some crackers. Because of this I know that they made it possible to run Forex Cyborg on pairs that are not official released and are not recommended.
This is what happend at one of your accounts and this is what I wrote in my last post + what I wrote you in a PM too.

And as I said:
"If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case."

But instead that you send me a proof of it, you send me only:

"I strongly suggest you get your facts right before accusing a moderator of using a cracked version of your EA.
When I became aware the version I was using was unlicensed I purchased a share in a full licence.
I suggest you amend your accusation promptly an issue an apology post haste."

Just contact the guy that sold you a copy and ask him about the transaction id.

You can PM me the details and I will write here, that you have a licensed version, if this is the case.

The only thing I'm currently 100% sure about is that you had a cracked version in the past (what you agree about based on your PM)


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team


In addition........if we are going to start airing our dirty laundry, here is your reply to me :

"Hello,

send me over the transaction id + mt4 account number and I will check if your license is official registered.

I don't care if you are a moderator or not. I only tell facts and you confirmed, that you used a cracked version.

As written in the thread: I will apologize for a false accusation as soon as I have a proof that you are not using any cracked version anymore.



Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team"

Do you normally show that level of disrespect as a Junior forum member for Senior members and Mods?


Hello,

I respect every one, no matter of the forum status. I don't care if a user has 1 or 10000 posts. He would get the same answers from me.

What I don't like are software cracker and the buyer / users of that software.


And I don't understand why you feel so attacked. You told here that you use a licensed version. So everything should be good.
Just send me the data as requested. Should be no big deal and I will tell here that your were right (as you wished)


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on August 13, 2018, 11:13:07 AM

Hello Jon,

we already had a private discussion about your Forex Cyborg - Version.
I already pointed out, that you are using a older cracked version of Forex Cyborg.

For everyone else, I will explain it in detail:

After the release of v1.2, you added the pairs USDJPY, EURJPY and CHFJPY on this account (this pairs were released the first time in v1.2):

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jonpearce/forex-cyborg--ic-markets/2492458

As you can see you had there some JPY trades between the 14.5. till 6.6.
This trades had all a SL of 60 pips. But v1.2 had SL between 110-135 pips for this pairs and it's impossible to change the SL for a single pair in Forex Cyborg.

And it was impossible to trade this pairs with v1.1

So you need a cracked version to be able to trade this pairs with v1.1 (or v1.0)

You told me that you bought it somewhere from a guy, but your license was not registered in my database.

Overall this is all shady and because of this I will not take any time to analyse how the differences are possible, until I'm sure that you are a customer of mine + have bought a registered copy of Forex Cyborg. I don't even have a "Jon" in my database yet.

If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

Excuse me? This is a fully paid version I purchased as a joint purchase with another forum member!
You will post a public apology in this thread or you can take a (forced) break from here to consider your false accusation.


I don't have a problem to apologize for a false accusation if I'm wrong, but I only wrote a fact.

I have this cracked version too from 2-3 different guys that send me this version that was sold by some crackers. Because of this I know that they made it possible to run Forex Cyborg on pairs that are not official released and are not recommended.
This is what happend at one of your accounts and this is what I wrote in my last post + what I wrote you in a PM too.

And as I said:
"If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case."

But instead that you send me a proof of it, you send me only:

"I strongly suggest you get your facts right before accusing a moderator of using a cracked version of your EA.
When I became aware the version I was using was unlicensed I purchased a share in a full licence.
I suggest you amend your accusation promptly an issue an apology post haste."

Just contact the guy that sold you a copy and ask him about the transaction id.

You can PM me the details and I will write here, that you have a licensed version, if this is the case.

The only thing I'm currently 100% sure about is that you had a cracked version in the past (what you agree about based on your PM)


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team


In addition........if we are going to start airing our dirty laundry, here is your reply to me :

"Hello,

send me over the transaction id + mt4 account number and I will check if your license is official registered.

I don't care if you are a moderator or not. I only tell facts and you confirmed, that you used a cracked version.

As written in the thread: I will apologize for a false accusation as soon as I have a proof that you are not using any cracked version anymore.



Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team"

Do you normally show that level of disrespect as a Junior forum member for Senior members and Mods?


Hello,

I respect every one, no matter of the forum status. I don't care if a user has 1 or 10000 posts. He would get the same answers from me.

What I don't like are software cracker and the buyer / users of that software.


And I don't understand why you feel so attacked. You told here that you use a licensed version. So everything should be good.
Just send me the data as requested. Should be no big deal and I will tell here that your were right (as you wished)


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

No..........you have no respect or you would check your facts privately before posting false unfounded accusations in a forum.

You have attacked me unfairly and without cause and possibly tried to tarnish my reputation.

I have posted a screenshot of the PAID LICENSED version 1.2 that I am using. I have absolutely no doubt that you are able to ascertain from the HUD that this is in fact a legitimate version.

If you think for 1 minute that I am going to send you any information that may be detrimental to my, or my fellow members use of your EA that was purchased LEGITIMATELY you are sorely mistaken. You obviously have some trust issues and I do not wish to cater to them.

Should it be found now, or any time in the future that the copy of Forex Cyborg I am using for this account: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jonpearce/forex-cyborg-v12--ic/2584399  is anything other than a fully paid for, licensed and genuine copy I will leave this forum never to return.

I look forward to your public apology forthwith.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on August 13, 2018, 11:42:42 AM

Hello Jon,

we already had a private discussion about your Forex Cyborg - Version.
I already pointed out, that you are using a older cracked version of Forex Cyborg.

For everyone else, I will explain it in detail:

After the release of v1.2, you added the pairs USDJPY, EURJPY and CHFJPY on this account (this pairs were released the first time in v1.2):

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jonpearce/forex-cyborg--ic-markets/2492458

As you can see you had there some JPY trades between the 14.5. till 6.6.
This trades had all a SL of 60 pips. But v1.2 had SL between 110-135 pips for this pairs and it's impossible to change the SL for a single pair in Forex Cyborg.

And it was impossible to trade this pairs with v1.1

So you need a cracked version to be able to trade this pairs with v1.1 (or v1.0)

You told me that you bought it somewhere from a guy, but your license was not registered in my database.

Overall this is all shady and because of this I will not take any time to analyse how the differences are possible, until I'm sure that you are a customer of mine + have bought a registered copy of Forex Cyborg. I don't even have a "Jon" in my database yet.

If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

Excuse me? This is a fully paid version I purchased as a joint purchase with another forum member!
You will post a public apology in this thread or you can take a (forced) break from here to consider your false accusation.


I don't have a problem to apologize for a false accusation if I'm wrong, but I only wrote a fact.

I have this cracked version too from 2-3 different guys that send me this version that was sold by some crackers. Because of this I know that they made it possible to run Forex Cyborg on pairs that are not official released and are not recommended.
This is what happend at one of your accounts and this is what I wrote in my last post + what I wrote you in a PM too.

And as I said:
"If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case."

But instead that you send me a proof of it, you send me only:

"I strongly suggest you get your facts right before accusing a moderator of using a cracked version of your EA.
When I became aware the version I was using was unlicensed I purchased a share in a full licence.
I suggest you amend your accusation promptly an issue an apology post haste."

Just contact the guy that sold you a copy and ask him about the transaction id.

You can PM me the details and I will write here, that you have a licensed version, if this is the case.

The only thing I'm currently 100% sure about is that you had a cracked version in the past (what you agree about based on your PM)


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team


In addition........if we are going to start airing our dirty laundry, here is your reply to me :

"Hello,

send me over the transaction id + mt4 account number and I will check if your license is official registered.

I don't care if you are a moderator or not. I only tell facts and you confirmed, that you used a cracked version.

As written in the thread: I will apologize for a false accusation as soon as I have a proof that you are not using any cracked version anymore.



Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team"

Do you normally show that level of disrespect as a Junior forum member for Senior members and Mods?


Hello,

I respect every one, no matter of the forum status. I don't care if a user has 1 or 10000 posts. He would get the same answers from me.

What I don't like are software cracker and the buyer / users of that software.


And I don't understand why you feel so attacked. You told here that you use a licensed version. So everything should be good.
Just send me the data as requested. Should be no big deal and I will tell here that your were right (as you wished)


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

No..........you have no respect or you would check your facts privately before posting false unfounded accusations in a forum.

You have attacked me unfairly and without cause and possibly tried to tarnish my reputation.

I have posted a screenshot of the PAID LICENSED version 1.2 that I am using. I have absolutely no doubt that you are able to ascertain from the HUD that this is in fact a legitimate version.

If you think for 1 minute that I am going to send you any information that may be detrimental to my, or my fellow members use of your EA that was purchased LEGITIMATELY you are sorely mistaken. You obviously have some trust issues and I do not wish to cater to them.

Should it be found now, or any time in the future that the copy of Forex Cyborg I am using for this account: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jonpearce/forex-cyborg-v12--ic/2584399  is anything other than a fully paid for, licensed and genuine copy I will leave this forum never to return.

I look forward to your public apology forthwith.

Gentlemen, may I please intervene here because this is getting out of hand and off topic.

May I recommend, HFT, you obtain the PayPal receipt from your associate, send it to Donna and Donna will verify if this is legit; she will then inform Cyborg and he, in turn, will do the right thing and post the apology which you require.

I think the sharing of a 3 license, could have possibly been compromised by someone who is a scammer; this will be a good lesson for all of us.

Just trying to help.


Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on August 13, 2018, 12:04:52 PM
 @ Humble Trader's Fx - Nope........ain't doing that. I have provided all the proof I am willing to provide and given my word. That should be enough. Thanks for the suggestion and input though :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: IFFTrader on August 13, 2018, 12:44:19 PM
I so happy with Forex cyborg performance today that I like to share here but to my shock to see the argument. I will send forex cyborg the proof of receipt as soon as I reach home. I share one license with HFT.  His copy is legitimate.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: jwatts7701 on August 13, 2018, 12:57:09 PM
@ Humble Trader's Fx - Nope........ain't doing that. I have provided all the proof I am willing to provide and given my word. That should be enough. Thanks for the suggestion and input though :)

Jon you could always just buy your own license? Then the Cyborg vendor doesn't have to deal with multiple different emails/people registered to the same license. You would be on his file then. Just another suggestion in addition to Humbles.

Cyborg could always just build this in to his terms and conditions to prevent this from happening going forward. This also reduces the risk of someone buying a hacked copy in the future as well (not saying you have a hacked version jon - but would prevent anyone else from getting one).
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on August 13, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
I so happy with Forex cyborg performance today that I like to share here but to my shock to see the argument. I will send forex cyborg the proof of receipt as soon as I reach home. I share one license with HFT.  His copy is legitimate.

Thank you IFFTrader that you clear this case.

So I'm happy to apologize that I impugn the status/validity of your license @ HFT

You wrote that you think that I "tried to tarnish your reputation". But that is absolutly not the case. Why should I do that?
If you feel attacked that way by my question about the validity of your license, than sorry for that too.

But what I don't like is that you attacked me personally and told me "You obviously have some trust issues".
And after your post, you send me a warning for "insulting other users".  Isn't that the case from your side too, when telling me I have personal problems like trust issues?

But enough I like to get back to the relevant thing for all users:

Regarding the differences between your history and mine: Do you use the default settings except the lot-size of 0.01?

I matched both accounts and it seems you get overall less trades. For example EURJPY: You had here only 1 trade, I had 3 trades in the same time.
Normally this is a result of higher spreads, what should not be possible if we both get the same price feeds at the same broker.
I have not seen such big differences yet when comparing two accounts at the same broker. It can happen that we have 1-2 different trades from time to time at the same broker, because of different VPS / ping + different slippages.

One difference we have are different commissions. I pay here the default $7 per lot. I think you have a lowered commission at IC Markets?
I wanted to show what a "normal" user will get, without the commission reduction.

What I could offer you (and would be interesting for me too) would be to compare the spreads on my account vs. your account to see if this reduced commission makes a difference in the spreads we both get. I don't think so, but I think no one has ever compared this. Write me a PM if you are interested in such a compare too.

Beside this, the main difference in the last days can be found in two trades:
1.) AUDCAD at the 09.08.2018: You had a better entry point + (i think) lower commission. Because of this the trade could be closed at nearly +/- 0.
At my account this trade was not closed. A short term trend appeared and this position was closed at SL (-70 pips)
It was closed at nearly break even at Circle Markets too, but not at Darwinex and FXPIG. So sometimes such differences are the result of different broker spreads, swaps , commissions and mainly slippage.
2.) EURJPY at the 10.08.2018: Somehow your account missed this entry. This trade ended in +82.6 pips on my account.
Is your EURJPY-chart currently active?


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on August 13, 2018, 02:11:41 PM
I so happy with Forex cyborg performance today that I like to share here but to my shock to see the argument. I will send forex cyborg the proof of receipt as soon as I reach home. I share one license with HFT.  His copy is legitimate.

Thank you IFFTrader that you clear this case.

So I'm happy to apologize that I impugn the status/validity of your license @ HFT

You wrote that you think that I "tried to tarnish your reputation". But that is absolutly not the case. Why should I do that?
If you feel attacked that way by my question about the validity of your license, than sorry for that too.

But what I don't like is that you attacked me personally and told me "You obviously have some trust issues".
And after your post, you send me a warning for "insulting other users".  Isn't that the case from your side too, when telling me I have personal problems like trust issues?

But enough I like to get back to the relevant thing for all users:

Regarding the differences between your history and mine: Do you use the default settings except the lot-size of 0.01?

I matched both accounts and it seems you get overall less trades. For example EURJPY: You had here only 1 trade, I had 3 trades in the same time.
Normally this is a result of higher spreads, what should not be possible if we both get the same price feeds at the same broker.
I have not seen such big differences yet when comparing two accounts at the same broker. It can happen that we have 1-2 different trades from time to time at the same broker, because of different VPS / ping + different slippages.

One difference we have are different commissions. I pay here the default $7 per lot. I think you have a lowered commission at IC Markets?
I wanted to show what a "normal" user will get, without the commission reduction.

What I could offer you (and would be interesting for me too) would be to compare the spreads on my account vs. your account to see if this reduced commission makes a difference in the spreads we both get. I don't think so, but I think no one has ever compared this. Write me a PM if you are interested in such a compare too.

Beside this, the main difference in the last days can be found in two trades:
1.) AUDCAD at the 09.08.2018: You had a better entry point + (i think) lower commission. Because of this the trade could be closed at nearly +/- 0.
At my account this trade was not closed. A short term trend appeared and this position was closed at SL (-70 pips)
It was closed at nearly break even at Circle Markets too, but not at Darwinex and FXPIG. So sometimes such differences are the result of different broker spreads, swaps , commissions and mainly slippage.
2.) EURJPY at the 10.08.2018: Somehow your account missed this entry. This trade ended in +82.6 pips on my account.
Is your EURJPY-chart currently active?


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team


Thanks for the apology.........enjoy your 3 day ban.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on August 13, 2018, 03:26:41 PM
@ Humble Trader's Fx - Nope........ain't doing that. I have provided all the proof I am willing to provide and given my word. That should be enough. Thanks for the suggestion and input though :)

Jon you could always just buy your own license? Then the Cyborg vendor doesn't have to deal with multiple different emails/people registered to the same license. You would be on his file then. Just another suggestion in addition to Humbles.

Cyborg could always just build this in to his terms and conditions to prevent this from happening going forward. This also reduces the risk of someone buying a hacked copy in the future as well (not saying you have a hacked version jon - but would prevent anyone else from getting one).

After having sent Forex Cyborg some business........I know of a number of 'group' purchases of the 3 license package after my suggestion of splitting the purchase price (with the consent of the vendor I must add) I really have nothing else to say.
The issue is closed unless someone else wants to continue it. Forex Cyborg is a vendor and is here to provide information and answer members questions regarding his product. Accusations by vendors/members of forum members using cracked EA's are taken very seriously and the accusers must take responsibility should these accusations be proved incorrect. These are the forum rules and without these rules anarchy will surely prevail.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petermatt on August 13, 2018, 10:22:25 PM

If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case.

Excuse me? This is a fully paid version I purchased as a joint purchase with another forum member!
You will post a public apology in this thread or you can take a (forced) break from here to consider your false accusation.

Jon,
All he asked for was proof of purchase which he finally got from another member and then made the public apology so I'm not sure why you felt it then necessary to also ban him for 3 days?
Pete
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on August 13, 2018, 10:42:33 PM

If I'm wrong about your license, than please send me over the paypal transaction code that was used for this license in a PM and I will take a look into this case.

Excuse me? This is a fully paid version I purchased as a joint purchase with another forum member!
You will post a public apology in this thread or you can take a (forced) break from here to consider your false accusation.

Jon,
All he asked for was proof of purchase which he finally got from another member and then made the public apology so I'm not sure why you felt it then necessary to also ban him for 3 days?
Pete

Should of checked his facts BEFORE making false accusations against a fellow forum member. Forum protocol was followed. He was issued with a warning which he chose to ignore. I have better things to do than having to defend myself against false accusations. He was not willing to accept my word and guarantee that I was using a licensed copy and it was unnecessary for another member to provide proof on my behalf. If I felt that providing proof was necessary or justified I would have done it myself.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: jwatts7701 on August 14, 2018, 01:02:53 AM
I agree here. I don't overly want to really continue it either, but was a 3 day ban really neccissary?

Cyborg has been a good and trusted vendor here. I don't think he was out of line at all, only stated his concerns to you, apologized, and then he actually answered your question.

Pretty sure we don't run the risk of anarchy breaking out out here Jon (maybe an over reaction?). Most of us are pretty easy going. Just my two cents, but will live with it either way.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on August 14, 2018, 07:35:00 AM
I agree here. I don't overly want to really continue it either, but was a 3 day ban really neccissary?

Cyborg has been a good and trusted vendor here. I don't think he was out of line at all, only stated his concerns to you, apologized, and then he actually answered your question.

Pretty sure we don't run the risk of anarchy breaking out out here Jon (maybe an over reaction?). Most of us are pretty easy going. Just my two cents, but will live with it either way.

It will not continue as this is the final post regarding this matter.

1: Yes, he was out of line.

2: It was not a concern, it was an accusation. He could have contacted me privately with his concerns but chose to accuse me (wrongly!) of using a cracked EA publicly.

3: The apology only came after another member felt it necessary to step in with proof. I had no intention of providing anything more than my word, the screenshot I posted and my assurance I was using a licensed copy.

4: A 3 day ban is justified in my opinion. Forum protocol was followed and a valid warning issued. Forex Cyborg chose to ignore the warning and continue his quest. He was proved wrong and is now bearing the consequences of breaking forum rules and ignoring a warning.

5: Anarchy will not prevail here because we have fair and just forum rules to protect ALL members. These rules are enforced when necessary.

This is the final post regarding this matter, it has gone far enough. Any further posts regarding this matter will be deleted. If anyone has a problem with me please take it up with Donna.

Have a nice day  :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: laracroft on August 27, 2018, 08:14:27 PM
What are the settings on the official accounts on Darwinex and ICMarkets?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on September 03, 2018, 04:23:20 PM
What are the settings on the official accounts on Darwinex and ICMarkets?

Hello laracroft,

all our live accounts, except the "Circle Markets (High risk)"-account use the default settings, but with "Risk per Trade" = "4.5%" (default is 3.5%)
So the Darwinex and IC Markets account use the same settings like the other available accounts.


@ all forum members:
Here are our lastest news:
- v1.3 will be ready in the next 1-2 weeks. After the release, we will add up-to-date back tests on our website. This time we will add fixed and "risk per trade"-back tests. The new version will have some reworked pairs, like EURGBP and two new pairs. The first NZD-pairs. This will be already our third update this year!
- We just added a live support channel on our website. We will try to be online as often as possible to extend our customer support.
- Today we started a live account at another broker, which will be released as soon as we have a few weeks of history.
- We changed our payment provider. We have now several more payment-options compared to the paypal-only method in the past.

Our live accounts are growing greatly. Our main account at FXPIG made already over 113% this year with a max. DD of 12.72%.

IMPORTANT NOTICE:
We will not use this forum anymore for further communication, but we are highly available via email (support@forexcyborg.com) and try to be active as often as possible on the new direct chat at forexcyborg.com

So please don't ask here any question anymore that are directly addressed to us.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petermatt on September 03, 2018, 09:49:46 PM
IMPORTANT NOTICE:
We will not use this forum anymore for further communication, but we are highly available via email (support@forexcyborg.com) and try to be active as often as possible on the new direct chat at forexcyborg.com
So please don't ask here any question anymore that are directly addressed to us.
Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team

I don't blame you mate.

Pete
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: IFFTrader on September 04, 2018, 06:20:36 AM
Thanks for the update forex cyborg.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: donnaforex on September 04, 2018, 11:53:06 AM
I just wanted to post support for HFT's moderation decision here. I'm sorry that things seem to have escalated as much as they did and i wish i had seen this earlier and could have dealt with it myself because i think we could have stopped the problem earlier by involving a third party, but the right decisions were ultimately made. There were private messages and things going on in the background here that are not completely apparent from reading the forum posts which have an impact.

Of course i'm sad to see Cyborg leave the forum, but i wish them all the best.
Title: Re: forex cyborg- NEW PAGE
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on September 09, 2018, 10:26:26 PM
Hello, Members:

I would like to welcome back,  vendor Cyborg, to his thread. We at Donna value all our vendors who take the time to respond to client questions about their products and most importantly, add to our overall education about the challenging issues of the Forex market.

Welcome back, Paul (Cyborg).


Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on September 09, 2018, 10:52:41 PM
That's great news if Cyborg (Paul) is back. I think it's helpful for them and for us when they participate here. They most likely get more business due to their exposure here and we get more direct assistance.

So welcome back. BTW, can we call you Paul? Just feels a little more personal and real that way. :)

Cheers,
Rod

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on September 11, 2018, 09:16:38 AM
Hello, Members:

I would like to welcome back,  vendor Cyborg, to his thread. We at Donna value all our vendors who take the time to respond to client questions about their products and most importantly, add to our overall education about the challenging issues of the Forex market.

Welcome back, Paul (Cyborg).


Regards,
HumbleTrader

Sorry for the late reply. I just had some stressful days  :)

Thank you for your effort for finding a solution to solve this issue.

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: IFFTrader on September 11, 2018, 12:55:37 PM
Welcome back!
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: alstoner on September 21, 2018, 01:37:21 PM
Hi Cyborg,

Just checking that i haven't missed the V1.3 upgrade? as didn't see anything in my emails.

Cheers!
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on September 21, 2018, 03:23:50 PM
Hello alstoner,

it's not ready yet. Just had not enough time to work on it as I planned.

Will be done soon.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: alstoner on September 21, 2018, 03:46:34 PM
Perfect, looking forward to it.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on October 01, 2018, 10:03:49 AM
There go last months profits :(
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: dasher1980 on October 01, 2018, 11:01:28 AM
am actually seeing some nasty losses on this one which I don't see all on the dev. account. Same for you guys?

09.28.2018 22:58   10.01.2018 11:33   USDCAD   Buy      1.28083   1.30383   1.29179   1.28083   -109.6
09.28.2018 23:44   10.01.2018 08:30   AUDCAD   Buy      0.92573   0.94173   0.93268   0.92572   -69.6
09.27.2018 22:11   09.28.2018 10:25   EURCHF   Buy      1.13399   1.15099   1.13896   1.13399   -49.7

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petersurrey on October 01, 2018, 11:36:52 AM
This system will always be vulnerable to large weekend gaps ( such as the CAD this time) which wouldn't necessarily appear on backtests, and I guess balance each other out overtime...but more risky with the Brexit affect. One thing this system appears very good at though is swift recovery as found after the Sept DD and amazing performance this year to date...
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on October 01, 2018, 02:32:36 PM
am actually seeing some nasty losses on this one which I don't see all on the dev. account. Same for you guys?

09.28.2018 22:58   10.01.2018 11:33   USDCAD   Buy      1.28083   1.30383   1.29179   1.28083   -109.6
09.28.2018 23:44   10.01.2018 08:30   AUDCAD   Buy      0.92573   0.94173   0.93268   0.92572   -69.6
09.27.2018 22:11   09.28.2018 10:25   EURCHF   Buy      1.13399   1.15099   1.13896   1.13399   -49.7

Their IC Markets account got the same losses as mine.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petermatt on October 01, 2018, 11:03:58 PM
Since starting Cyborg on 25th June 2018 the CAD pairs have lost 243.2 pips with only 2 pairs (CADCHF +9.9/EURCAD +38.4 ) making a positive contribution. The others are as follows - USDCAD -162.2, AUDCAD -127.4, GBPCAD -1.9.

There are currently 2 more CAD trades open (USDCAD/GBPCAD) one of which is around BE and the other in loss.

Pete
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on October 02, 2018, 09:56:30 AM
It's normal that we will have periods of drawdown. I don't like them and I lost a few thousand euro too, but it's a part of the forex trading. Sometimes the market is on your favor and sometimes it's not.

I'm not concern about such a DD, as long as it stay below 30%.

But I currently review pairs like AUDCAD. They don't perform as expected in the past months and I take some more time before releasing v1.3, where I try to optimize the trading behaviour for the CAD-pair to be able to perform good at the older market conditions and at the current.

The month just started, so there is a good chance that we recover the losses and will close in profit this month too.

Be patient and you will see that we will reach a new equitry high soon.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: vontogr on October 02, 2018, 11:55:08 AM
Forex Cyborg is no miracle
If you unhide the whole trading period here
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-fxpig/2168587
You get 3% monthly and 25% DD.
So it would take about 8 months to recover loss of 25%.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on October 02, 2018, 04:11:07 PM
Forex Cyborg - Does any of your testing show the differences in results by stopping trading on Friday evening per your available setting?

With Brexit and Trump I'm very concerned about having trades open over the weekend. :(

Thanks,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on October 02, 2018, 04:22:12 PM
Forex Cyborg - Does any of your testing show the differences in results by stopping trading on Friday evening per your available setting?

With Brexit and Trump I'm very concerned about having trades open over the weekend. :(

Thanks,
Rod

I too, have this question Rod. In fact, I have placed on hold all pairs which have the GBP as one of the currencies.

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petermatt on October 02, 2018, 10:06:39 PM
It's normal that we will have periods of drawdown. I don't like them and I lost a few thousand euro too, but it's a part of the forex trading. Sometimes the market is on your favor and sometimes it's not.

I'm not concern about such a DD, as long as it stay below 30%.

But I currently review pairs like AUDCAD. They don't perform as expected in the past months and I take some more time before releasing v1.3, where I try to optimize the trading behaviour for the CAD-pair to be able to perform good at the older market conditions and at the current.

The month just started, so there is a good chance that we recover the losses and will close in profit this month too.

Be patient and you will see that we will reach a new equitry high soon.

Hi Paul,

My post wasn't meant as a whinge or complaint. I guess my query was that is there something about the timing of the entry for CAD pairs that affects their performance. e.g. Does the CAD exchange close after the US Exchange close or CAD news come out later so volatility is higher during those initial trading hours for those pairs and if so would pushing the EA "start time" for CAD pairs out by an hour or 2 make a difference?

Pete
Title: forex cyborg on fxpig
Post by: bearnakedbull on October 04, 2018, 02:47:06 PM
It would be nice to see this ea calculate the rip-off fxpig swaps on Wednesdays and avoid enriching the broker. Kevin at fxpig and his crew have deaf ears when it comes to such things as dealing with competitive swap rates so how about changing the code on this ea that generates significant revenue for him.
Minimally, having the ability to automatically switch off Wednesday trading might be good. One problem at fxpig is they have pairs that only have a negative swap no matter which side you take so they always win just like the the casino.
Well there you go Kevin, this is what happens when you don't have an answer to customer concerns.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: laracroft on October 09, 2018, 08:55:53 PM
When will the 1.3 version be ready?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on October 10, 2018, 09:29:08 AM
Forex Cyborg is no miracle
If you unhide the whole trading period here
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-fxpig/2168587
You get 3% monthly and 25% DD.
So it would take about 8 months to recover loss of 25%.

Correct it's no miracle, but you provide some wrong information. There was no trade before the 05/09/2017 (9th may), why we set a custom date to this date. So the correct monthly return is currently 6.33% per month and not 3% per month. Even if you set the start date to the 04/05/2017 (the deposit date), you would see a average monthly return of 5.92%. So I'm really confused where do you get these 3% from.

To make things easier, have a look here:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-darwinex/2184469

Here is no custom date and we have currently 5.68% per month and a max. DD of 16%. This account started only a few weeks later (07/02/2017)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on October 10, 2018, 09:31:00 AM
Forex Cyborg - Does any of your testing show the differences in results by stopping trading on Friday evening per your available setting?

With Brexit and Trump I'm very concerned about having trades open over the weekend. :(

Thanks,
Rod

The backtest showing that holding positions over the weekend is very profitable on long term.
However, if you don't like it, you can disable it in the settings
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on October 10, 2018, 09:33:00 AM
It's normal that we will have periods of drawdown. I don't like them and I lost a few thousand euro too, but it's a part of the forex trading. Sometimes the market is on your favor and sometimes it's not.

I'm not concern about such a DD, as long as it stay below 30%.

But I currently review pairs like AUDCAD. They don't perform as expected in the past months and I take some more time before releasing v1.3, where I try to optimize the trading behaviour for the CAD-pair to be able to perform good at the older market conditions and at the current.

The month just started, so there is a good chance that we recover the losses and will close in profit this month too.

Be patient and you will see that we will reach a new equitry high soon.

Hi Paul,

My post wasn't meant as a whinge or complaint. I guess my query was that is there something about the timing of the entry for CAD pairs that affects their performance. e.g. Does the CAD exchange close after the US Exchange close or CAD news come out later so volatility is higher during those initial trading hours for those pairs and if so would pushing the EA "start time" for CAD pairs out by an hour or 2 make a difference?

Pete

You can test this on your own if you like. Just set a different GMT offset and run a backtest. But it will be less profitable or even unprofitable if you change the timeframe by 1-2 hours. So I can not recommend it
Title: Re: forex cyborg on fxpig
Post by: ForexCyborg on October 10, 2018, 09:36:37 AM
It would be nice to see this ea calculate the rip-off fxpig swaps on Wednesdays and avoid enriching the broker. Kevin at fxpig and his crew have deaf ears when it comes to such things as dealing with competitive swap rates so how about changing the code on this ea that generates significant revenue for him.
Minimally, having the ability to automatically switch off Wednesday trading might be good. One problem at fxpig is they have pairs that only have a negative swap no matter which side you take so they always win just like the the casino.
Well there you go Kevin, this is what happens when you don't have an answer to customer concerns.

I think it would be a good idea to add a option to switch off the trading activity for a specific trading day (plus maybe the direction).
But even if the swaps are higher at FXPIG, they are still one of the best brokers for Forex Cyborg.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on October 10, 2018, 09:37:13 AM
When will the 1.3 version be ready?

Finished the development and prepare all backtests currently.
Will be done soon.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: jwatts7701 on October 10, 2018, 03:13:08 PM
can you let us know the list of feature changes as well?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on October 10, 2018, 03:32:47 PM
Forex Cyborg - Does any of your testing show the differences in results by stopping trading on Friday evening per your available setting?

With Brexit and Trump I'm very concerned about having trades open over the weekend. :(

Thanks,
Rod

The backtest showing that holding positions over the weekend is very profitable on long term.
However, if you don't like it, you can disable it in the settings

Hi ForexCyborg,

Thanks for all your responses in this Forum. It's really good to have you back here! :)

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: jwatts7701 on October 10, 2018, 10:05:11 PM
this looks like it could be a very rough day for cyborg, with lots of SLs.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: alstoner on October 10, 2018, 10:40:44 PM
Hmm... time will tell. I was initially quite skeptical about the relatively large SLs cyborg uses across its various pairs but more often than not trades that went into DD of around 80pips has stayed open for 12+ hours and closed either at BE or with a substantially less loss e.g. 15pips etc. Fingers crossed everyone is using a sensible MM so can live to fight another day...
this looks like it could be a very rough day for cyborg, with lots of SLs.

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on October 10, 2018, 11:37:12 PM
This v1.2 has been very disappointing so far. Seriously considering rolling back to v1.0 which seemed safer and was profitable.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on October 10, 2018, 11:47:36 PM
This v1.3 has been very disappointing so far. Seriously considering rolling back to v1.0 which seemed safer and was profitable.

I didn't think 1.3 is out yet. Could you mean 1.2?

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on October 11, 2018, 01:06:34 AM
This v1.3 has been very disappointing so far. Seriously considering rolling back to v1.0 which seemed safer and was profitable.

I didn't think 1.3 is out yet. Could you mean 1.2?

Cheers,
Rod

Yes, v1.2 ::)  Will edit the post, thanks Rod.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: jwatts7701 on October 11, 2018, 04:20:10 PM
it looks like it dodged a few bullets. But still took some hits (it could have been alot worse if more full stop losses were hit). So in that sense there is some good with the bad. This month is going to need a lot of nice trades to come out positive though being down so much. In defense of this it has been a BAD month for Asian scalping all around. I am getting hit from all angles on many EAs this month. But i have been making a small fortune on gold to help even this out. :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on October 12, 2018, 05:23:17 AM
Any one got an old official copy of v1.0 they can send me? I want to wind back to first version.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: jwatts7701 on October 12, 2018, 06:52:22 PM
HFT, juts curious, how do you know that the version 1 would not have also sustained similar SLs?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: pipsbuster on October 12, 2018, 09:47:05 PM
No way this bot could emerge a winner over something as infinitely random as the Forex market.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on October 12, 2018, 11:05:05 PM
HFT, juts curious, how do you know that the version 1 would not have also sustained similar SLs?

I don't. That's why I would like to try earlier version for comparison with accounts running v1.2. There are plenty of myfxbook accounts running the current version for comparison.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: dasher1980 on October 15, 2018, 08:41:45 AM
Have another trade on my account, which I dont seem to find on the developers account. Anyone else got these? I seem to be having certain trades which are the biggest losses which are not on the devs account. Could I have the wrong settings on?

10.12.2018 22:53   10.15.2018 00:01   GBPCAD   Buy   0.07   1.70446   1.72946   1.71446   1.70308   -113.8   -47.25   2d   -3.79%
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: alstoner on October 15, 2018, 08:52:54 AM
I too had those losses over the weekend on my IC Markets live account. That said, they do seem to be showing on some of the vendors live accounts:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets/2378195
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-circle-markets-high/2378197
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-darwinex/2184469

the only account i don't see it on is their live IC Market accounts.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on October 15, 2018, 10:37:21 AM
Have another trade on my account, which I dont seem to find on the developers account. Anyone else got these? I seem to be having certain trades which are the biggest losses which are not on the devs account. Could I have the wrong settings on?

10.12.2018 22:53   10.15.2018 00:01   GBPCAD   Buy   0.07   1.70446   1.72946   1.71446   1.70308   -113.8   -47.25   2d   -3.79%

I did not get that trade on IC Markets.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: alstoner on October 26, 2018, 07:41:00 AM
When will the 1.3 version be ready?

Finished the development and prepare all backtests currently.
Will be done soon.
How are those backtests coming along?

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on October 26, 2018, 03:40:12 PM
No way this bot could emerge a winner over something as infinitely random as the Forex market.
3 months of gains are wiped out in a couple of weeks for me. Very disappointing as usual and adding to the pain is the cost of the EA. I thought I would give it until Christmas but now that it is negative I am struggling with that decision.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: pipsbuster on October 27, 2018, 12:55:56 AM
No way this bot could emerge a winner over something as infinitely random as the Forex market.
3 months of gains are wiped out in a couple of weeks for me. Very disappointing as usual and adding to the pain is the cost of the EA. I thought I would give it until Christmas but now that it is negative I am struggling with that decision.

All scalpers work until they don’t, as no specific set of market conditions lasts forever and no broker is willing to lose to you constantly.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: donbon2 on October 27, 2018, 05:49:51 AM
asian scalpers died a few months ago imo

until we get better liquidity every trade you take is already against you -- hard to win long run with that.

I'm not sold on BS MT5 either -- market orders worry me slippage wise
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petermatt on October 31, 2018, 02:29:07 AM
After another 100+ pip loss overnight so I've decided to turn this off. Before this loss I, like others, had already given back my earlier profits and was in a small loss but another sizeable loss has been enough for me to pause this one.
Pete
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on October 31, 2018, 05:30:50 AM
After another 100+ pip loss overnight so I've decided to turn this off. Before this loss I, like others, had already given back my earlier profits and was in a small loss but another sizeable loss has been enough for me to pause this one.
Pete

I didn't get that loss. It seemed to be recovering slowly. Update is a long time coming.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petermatt on October 31, 2018, 07:36:39 PM
The Cyborg Circle Markets account got the same loss as me but his FxPig account did not. I'm running it on my IC Markets account.
I'm not sure whether the next update is just to add further pairs (NZD), an improvement in strategy or both?

Pete
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on November 12, 2018, 02:00:39 PM
This EA needs a switch to turn Friday trading off. At least on my broker my analysis shows that the weekend trades have now lost nearly 10%. I have never had one of the trades that gaps with a big win, just the opposite. If understand the argument that over time the weekend trades have shown wins but after 4 months they are only loosing for me and that is long enough to wait.
So please Mr. Vendor add a switch for this. I am about to give up on this EA and if I had Friday "off" I would have been happy.

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on November 12, 2018, 03:22:56 PM
This EA needs a switch to turn Friday trading off. At least on my broker my analysis shows that the weekend trades have now lost nearly 10%. I have never had one of the trades that gaps with a big win, just the opposite. If understand the argument that over time the weekend trades have shown wins but after 4 months they are only loosing for me and that is long enough to wait.
So please Mr. Vendor add a switch for this. I am about to give up on this EA and if I had Friday "off" I would have been happy.

Hi bearnakedbull,

There is a setting: 'StopTradingOnFridayClosing'. It will stop new trades from opening but I'm not sure if it will close open trades.

BTW Cyborg has been doing well lately.

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on November 12, 2018, 08:39:14 PM
This EA needs a switch to turn Friday trading off. At least on my broker my analysis shows that the weekend trades have now lost nearly 10%. I have never had one of the trades that gaps with a big win, just the opposite. If understand the argument that over time the weekend trades have shown wins but after 4 months they are only loosing for me and that is long enough to wait.
So please Mr. Vendor add a switch for this. I am about to give up on this EA and if I had Friday "off" I would have been happy.

Hi bearnakedbull,

There is a setting: 'StopTradingOnFridayClosing'. It will stop new trades from opening but I'm not sure if it will close open trades.

BTW Cyborg has been doing well lately.

Cheers,
Rod

Really. Well how did I miss that.I will have another look.Thanks for that.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on November 13, 2018, 07:34:22 PM
This EA needs a switch to turn Friday trading off. At least on my broker my analysis shows that the weekend trades have now lost nearly 10%. I have never had one of the trades that gaps with a big win, just the opposite. If understand the argument that over time the weekend trades have shown wins but after 4 months they are only loosing for me and that is long enough to wait.
So please Mr. Vendor add a switch for this. I am about to give up on this EA and if I had Friday "off" I would have been happy.

Hi bearnakedbull,

There is a setting: 'StopTradingOnFridayClosing'. It will stop new trades from opening but I'm not sure if it will close open trades.

BTW Cyborg has been doing well lately.

Cheers,
Rod


cyborg took a little hit here recently, g is not behaving due to brexit crapp going on.

sure hope it will get better for you all.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on November 13, 2018, 08:23:57 PM
This EA needs a switch to turn Friday trading off. At least on my broker my analysis shows that the weekend trades have now lost nearly 10%. I have never had one of the trades that gaps with a big win, just the opposite. If understand the argument that over time the weekend trades have shown wins but after 4 months they are only loosing for me and that is long enough to wait.
So please Mr. Vendor add a switch for this. I am about to give up on this EA and if I had Friday "off" I would have been happy.

Hi bearnakedbull,

There is a setting: 'StopTradingOnFridayClosing'. It will stop new trades from opening but I'm not sure if it will close open trades.

BTW Cyborg has been doing well lately.

Cheers,
Rod


cyborg took a little hit here recently, g is not behaving due to brexit crapp going on.

sure hope it will get better for you all.

Yes a few hours after I said it's doing well it didn't! Guess I shouldn't post comments like that. :(

Anyway it is still up for the month. :)

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on December 03, 2018, 08:55:45 AM
Weekends open trades took a huge hit on market open gap today. I have set StopTradingOnFridayClosing to true.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on December 03, 2018, 10:44:51 PM
This EA needs a switch to turn Friday trading off. At least on my broker my analysis shows that the weekend trades have now lost nearly 10%. I have never had one of the trades that gaps with a big win, just the opposite. If understand the argument that over time the weekend trades have shown wins but after 4 months they are only loosing for me and that is long enough to wait.
So please Mr. Vendor add a switch for this. I am about to give up on this EA and if I had Friday "off" I would have been happy.

Hi bearnakedbull,

There is a setting: 'StopTradingOnFridayClosing'. It will stop new trades from opening but I'm not sure if it will close open trades.

BTW Cyborg has been doing well lately.

Cheers,
Rod


cyborg took a little hit here recently, g is not behaving due to brexit crapp going on.

sure hope it will get better for you all.

Yes a few hours after I said it's doing well it didn't! Guess I shouldn't post comments like that. :(

Anyway it is still up for the month. :)

Cheers,
Rod

Hello, Rod.

I decided to put Cyborg to sleep more than a  month ago, any updates or such; I plan to get it started after the new year?

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on December 03, 2018, 11:07:55 PM
This EA needs a switch to turn Friday trading off. At least on my broker my analysis shows that the weekend trades have now lost nearly 10%. I have never had one of the trades that gaps with a big win, just the opposite. If understand the argument that over time the weekend trades have shown wins but after 4 months they are only loosing for me and that is long enough to wait.
So please Mr. Vendor add a switch for this. I am about to give up on this EA and if I had Friday "off" I would have been happy.

Hi bearnakedbull,

There is a setting: 'StopTradingOnFridayClosing'. It will stop new trades from opening but I'm not sure if it will close open trades.

BTW Cyborg has been doing well lately.

Cheers,
Rod


cyborg took a little hit here recently, g is not behaving due to brexit crapp going on.

sure hope it will get better for you all.

Yes a few hours after I said it's doing well it didn't! Guess I shouldn't post comments like that. :(

Anyway it is still up for the month. :)

Cheers,
Rod

Hello, Rod.

I decided to put Cyborg to sleep more than a  month ago, any updates or such; I plan to get it started after the new year?

Regards,
HumbleTrader

Hi Humble Trader,

Cyborg has been doing well for me since early October when I changed from using 10 selected pairs to all pairs. With the 10 pairs it was just kind of 'treading water'.

I have emailed Cyborg asking about a newer version.

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on December 03, 2018, 11:30:24 PM
This EA needs a switch to turn Friday trading off. At least on my broker my analysis shows that the weekend trades have now lost nearly 10%. I have never had one of the trades that gaps with a big win, just the opposite. If understand the argument that over time the weekend trades have shown wins but after 4 months they are only loosing for me and that is long enough to wait.
So please Mr. Vendor add a switch for this. I am about to give up on this EA and if I had Friday "off" I would have been happy.

Hi bearnakedbull,

There is a setting: 'StopTradingOnFridayClosing'. It will stop new trades from opening but I'm not sure if it will close open trades.

BTW Cyborg has been doing well lately.

Cheers,
Rod


cyborg took a little hit here recently, g is not behaving due to brexit crapp going on.

sure hope it will get better for you all.

Yes a few hours after I said it's doing well it didn't! Guess I shouldn't post comments like that. :(

Anyway it is still up for the month. :)

Cheers,
Rod

Hello, Rod.

I decided to put Cyborg to sleep more than a  month ago, any updates or such; I plan to get it started after the new year?

Regards,
HumbleTrader

Hi Humble Trader,

Cyborg has been doing well for me since early October when I changed from using 10 selected pairs to all pairs. With the 10 pairs it was just kind of 'treading water'.

I have emailed Cyborg asking about a newer version.

Cheers,
Rod

Thank you Rod; please keep us posted. If you can use the "summary" of myfxbook, it will list the top earners of your chosen pairs; it would be nice if you could post that list or at least the top three pairs.

Looking forward to your list.

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on December 04, 2018, 12:31:21 AM
I have real mixed feelings on trying to select the best pairs to trade. As you may recall I did that for the first few months with Cyborg using the best 10 pairs from the vendors previous history. It did not do very well for me.

Since early October I have been running all pairs and performance has been very good. Of course a couple of months is way too short of a time to draw any conclusions IMHO.

These are the trades for Oct 1 to today using all pairs.
https://gyazo.com/c9d7b19cad5a9a5f0a5b1f14c4ecbb79 (https://gyazo.com/c9d7b19cad5a9a5f0a5b1f14c4ecbb79)  I don't know how long gyazo will keep this link active.

Cheers,
Rod

PS  I was not able to insert the image of the Summary. I went to Insert Image and tried it with both a png and a jpg. Any ideas about how I should do the insert? Thanks
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on December 04, 2018, 02:14:41 AM
I have real mixed feelings on trying to select the best pairs to trade. As you may recall I did that for the first few months with Cyborg using the best 10 pairs from the vendors previous history. It did not do very well for me.

Since early October I have been running all pairs and performance has been very good. Of course a couple of months is way too short of a time to draw any conclusions IMHO.

These are the trades for Oct 1 to today using all pairs.
https://gyazo.com/c9d7b19cad5a9a5f0a5b1f14c4ecbb79 (https://gyazo.com/c9d7b19cad5a9a5f0a5b1f14c4ecbb79)  I don't know how long gyazo will keep this link active.

Cheers,
Rod

PS  I was not able to insert the image of the Summary. I went to Insert Image and tried it with both a png and a jpg. Any ideas about how I should do the insert? Thanks

Thank you very much Rod.

I am still trying to wrap my head around the aching question I have had ever since I used another multi-currency EA which popped up a year or more. The question being why would one not filter out pairs that are not providing any gain or rather a loss. For instance, in your list, one can easily determine that  the GBPCHF is a loser, whereas the,
 
USDCHF
EURCAD
GBPUSD
AUDCAD
CHFJPY
AUDCHF

offer you the largest gain: The same analysis can be done from the Cyborg, myfxbook longer-term analysis: If someone claims that the market changes over time and a winner can soon after becoming a loser because of the strategy used, my way about this is to analyse the behavior of a certain pairs over the previous two or three months, something that can easily be performed using myfxbook analysis.

You might ask why go through this sort of analysis when you have a winning EA; my reasoning behind this is to try to reduce the DD as much a possible by eliminating certain losing pairs and only use such pairs which will give the highest pip/trade ratio.

I hope this makes some sense.  :-\

Regards,
HumbleTrader

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on December 04, 2018, 06:27:03 AM
Thank you Rod for pointing out that I had overlooked the Friday switch. Talking about dodging a bullet since I just shut off the Fridays.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on December 04, 2018, 08:59:41 PM
I have real mixed feelings on trying to select the best pairs to trade. As you may recall I did that for the first few months with Cyborg using the best 10 pairs from the vendors previous history. It did not do very well for me.

Since early October I have been running all pairs and performance has been very good. Of course a couple of months is way too short of a time to draw any conclusions IMHO.

These are the trades for Oct 1 to today using all pairs.
https://gyazo.com/c9d7b19cad5a9a5f0a5b1f14c4ecbb79 (https://gyazo.com/c9d7b19cad5a9a5f0a5b1f14c4ecbb79)  I don't know how long gyazo will keep this link active.

Cheers,
Rod

PS  I was not able to insert the image of the Summary. I went to Insert Image and tried it with both a png and a jpg. Any ideas about how I should do the insert? Thanks

Thank you very much Rod.

I am still trying to wrap my head around the aching question I have had ever since I used another multi-currency EA which popped up a year or more. The question being why would one not filter out pairs that are not providing any gain or rather a loss. For instance, in your list, one can easily determine that  the GBPCHF is a loser, whereas the,
 
USDCHF
EURCAD
GBPUSD
AUDCAD
CHFJPY
AUDCHF

offer you the largest gain: The same analysis can be done from the Cyborg, myfxbook longer-term analysis: If someone claims that the market changes over time and a winner can soon after becoming a loser because of the strategy used, my way about this is to analyse the behavior of a certain pairs over the previous two or three months, something that can easily be performed using myfxbook analysis.

You might ask why go through this sort of analysis when you have a winning EA; my reasoning behind this is to try to reduce the DD as much a possible by eliminating certain losing pairs and only use such pairs which will give the highest pip/trade ratio.

I hope this makes some sense.  :-\

Regards,
HumbleTrader

Hi Humble Trader,

I certainly understand your reasoning for wanting to only run the "Best Pairs". I am of the belief that it is VERY difficult to determine what those are.

Yes we can see the PAST results using fxbook Summary. When I started Cyborg I looked at the past history (don't recall the period but think it was 6 - 12 months) and selected the best 10 out of the 17 available pairs. It didn't work for me! I only started profiting well when I switched to all 17. Of course that is just one test so may not prove much.

You suggested looking at the past 2-3 months and using the best of those. It might work but I have serious doubts. This is like back-testing which I have l no longer have ANY faith in for predicting the future. We have all seen the glowing BT's of new EA's only to have them start live and lose!

You could run a test though with Fxbook. Go back say a year and look at the Summary for the previous 2-3 months. Chose your Best pairs. Do a new Custom Anaylsis using those pairs for the next 2-3 months and see how they did. Then chose the best of those and so on. I will be very surprised if that does better or even as well as using all 17 pairs over say a years period. The Forex market is VERY dynamic!

Cheers,
Rod

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on December 04, 2018, 10:29:31 PM
I have real mixed feelings on trying to select the best pairs to trade. As you may recall I did that for the first few months with Cyborg using the best 10 pairs from the vendors previous history. It did not do very well for me.

Since early October I have been running all pairs and performance has been very good. Of course a couple of months is way too short of a time to draw any conclusions IMHO.

These are the trades for Oct 1 to today using all pairs.
https://gyazo.com/c9d7b19cad5a9a5f0a5b1f14c4ecbb79 (https://gyazo.com/c9d7b19cad5a9a5f0a5b1f14c4ecbb79)  I don't know how long gyazo will keep this link active.

Cheers,
Rod

PS  I was not able to insert the image of the Summary. I went to Insert Image and tried it with both a png and a jpg. Any ideas about how I should do the insert? Thanks

Thank you very much Rod.

I am still trying to wrap my head around the aching question I have had ever since I used another multi-currency EA which popped up a year or more. The question being why would one not filter out pairs that are not providing any gain or rather a loss. For instance, in your list, one can easily determine that  the GBPCHF is a loser, whereas the,
 
USDCHF
EURCAD
GBPUSD
AUDCAD
CHFJPY
AUDCHF

offer you the largest gain: The same analysis can be done from the Cyborg, myfxbook longer-term analysis: If someone claims that the market changes over time and a winner can soon after becoming a loser because of the strategy used, my way about this is to analyse the behavior of a certain pairs over the previous two or three months, something that can easily be performed using myfxbook analysis.

You might ask why go through this sort of analysis when you have a winning EA; my reasoning behind this is to try to reduce the DD as much a possible by eliminating certain losing pairs and only use such pairs which will give the highest pip/trade ratio.

I hope this makes some sense.  :-\

Regards,
HumbleTrader

Hi Humble Trader,

I certainly understand your reasoning for wanting to only run the "Best Pairs". I am of the belief that it is VERY difficult to determine what those are.

Yes we can see the PAST results using fxbook Summary. When I started Cyborg I looked at the past history (don't recall the period but think it was 6 - 12 months) and selected the best 10 out of the 17 available pairs. It didn't work for me! I only started profiting well when I switched to all 17. Of course that is just one test so may not prove much.

You suggested looking at the past 2-3 months and using the best of those. It might work but I have serious doubts. This is like back-testing which I have l no longer have ANY faith in for predicting the future. We have all seen the glowing BT's of new EA's only to have them start live and lose!

You could run a test though with Fxbook. Go back say a year and look at the Summary for the previous 2-3 months. Chose your Best pairs. Do a new Custom Anaylsis using those pairs for the next 2-3 months and see how they did. Then chose the best of those and so on. I will be very surprised if that does better or even as well as using all 17 pairs over say a years period. The Forex market is VERY dynamic!

Cheers,
Rod
Makes sense what you say, Rod but I am determined to test the following pairs which my analysis shows will give positive pips; let's get back in a few months and I will be glad to share with you my results.

I have set up the following pairs in a live account with other EA's including Cyborg; wish me luck.  :)

AUDUSD, CADCHF, EURJPY, CHFJPY.

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on December 05, 2018, 12:53:38 AM
Hi Humble Trader,

I definitely wish you luck!

And it will be great if your system can work over the long haul. If so you should have much better R/R than those of us with all pairs.

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: laracroft on December 05, 2018, 03:42:12 PM
In my opinion the strength of a multi-currency scalper with a good Reward / Risk ratio lies in the large number of operations it can do and therefore I will continue to run it on all 18 pairs.
From today I will disable trading on Friday as in the coming weeks the brexit and the duty war could create dangerous gaps.
However, I wish good luck to humbletrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on December 05, 2018, 04:05:19 PM
In my opinion the strength of a multi-currency scalper with a good Reward / Risk ratio lies in the large number of operations it can do and therefore I will continue to run it on all 17 pairs.
From today I will disable trading on Friday as in the coming weeks the brexit and the duty war could create dangerous gaps.
However, I wish good luck to humbletrader

Hi laracroft,

I have been very pleased to have Friday trading disabled. Besides Brexit we never know what that guy in the White House might say to really disrupt things.

I am also considering disabling all GBP pairs while the Brexit discussions are going on. On the other hand that eliminates a lot of potential profit. Anybody have thoughts on this?

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on December 05, 2018, 05:11:17 PM
In my opinion the strength of a multi-currency scalper with a good Reward / Risk ratio lies in the large number of operations it can do and therefore I will continue to run it on all 17 pairs.
From today I will disable trading on Friday as in the coming weeks the brexit and the duty war could create dangerous gaps.
However, I wish good luck to humbletrader

Hi laracroft,

I have been very pleased to have Friday trading disabled. Besides Brexit we never know what that guy in the White House might say to really disrupt things.

I am also considering disabling all GBP pairs while the Brexit discussions are going on. On the other hand that eliminates a lot of potential profit. Anybody have thoughts on this?

Cheers,
Rod

That is one reason why, Rod, you do not see any GBP pairs on my proposed "limited" list, I am proposing/using:  ;) AUDUSD, CADCHF, EURJPY, CHFJPY.

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on December 07, 2018, 09:45:38 PM
Well that just sux..............StopTradingOnFridayClosing didn't work for me. Anyone else try using that option?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on December 07, 2018, 11:03:19 PM
Well that just sux..............StopTradingOnFridayClosing didn't work for me. Anyone else try using that option?

I use that setting at True, but also tend to manually stop all EAs and close any open trades before market close on Friday.

Did you expect it to close open trades, or just not open any new ones?

Here is what the manual states about the setting:  "StopTradingOnFridayClosing – Set it to true, if you don’t want that Forex Cyborg place new trades on Friday evening before the market close."

It's not clear to me at what time on Friday that should take effect.

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on December 07, 2018, 11:17:34 PM
Well that just sux..............StopTradingOnFridayClosing didn't work for me. Anyone else try using that option?

I use that setting at True, but also tend to manually stop all EAs and close any open trades before market close on Friday.

Did you expect it to close open trades, or just not open any new ones?

Here is what the manual states about the setting:  "StopTradingOnFridayClosing – Set it to true, if you don’t want that Forex Cyborg place new trades on Friday evening before the market close."

It's not clear to me at what time on Friday that should take effect.

Cheers,
Rod

After setting it to true earlier in the week I  still had trades open less than 1 hour before market close. I closed the trades manually and the EA opened another 4 trades. I closed them manually a few minutes before market closed.

Before I intervened the EA had opened the last trade 1 hour before market close.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: laracroft on December 08, 2018, 09:37:58 AM
I set the stop last Wednesday and Friday Forex Cyborg did not open any trade
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on December 08, 2018, 12:57:06 PM
I set the stop last Wednesday and Friday Forex Cyborg did not open any trade

Weird.....will see what happens next friday I guess.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: laracroft on December 14, 2018, 03:40:31 PM
These days forex cyborg has reached new highs on the official ICMarkets account of the supplier and also on my account ICMarkets, recovering the last DD within a dozen days.
This has not yet happened on the official FXPIG and DARWINEX accounts.
It seems that the best performance of this ea is with ICMARKETS.
I, however, have disabled trading on Friday because it is too risky
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on December 14, 2018, 09:04:32 PM
I had trades open again on Friday. No idea why this happened again.

@ForexCyborg.........any idea why this might be happening when I have set StopTradingOnFridayClosing to True?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on December 17, 2018, 04:13:26 PM
I had trades open again on Friday. No idea why this happened again.

@ForexCyborg.........any idea why this might be happening when I have set StopTradingOnFridayClosing to True?

Interesting... I will have a look for it.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on December 19, 2018, 01:07:37 AM

cyborg rockin like mad here recently.................

quite the recovery :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: anjelo on December 19, 2018, 03:13:38 AM
When will the 1.3 version be ready?

Finished the development and prepare all backtests currently.
Will be done soon.

@forexcyborg, any info about the 1.3 version?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on December 19, 2018, 03:10:35 PM
When will the 1.3 version be ready?

Finished the development and prepare all backtests currently.
Will be done soon.

@forexcyborg, any info about the 1.3 version?

v1.3 will be released once the main FXPIG account has been fully recovered. This will be (hopefully) in the next days.
I just don't like to change settings during a DD.
That is why I would never stop using a EA during a DD as long as it's with the expected area.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nick3232 on December 19, 2018, 05:25:56 PM

now   
Daily: 0.23%
Monthly: 7.01%
Drawdown: 58.99%


 I don't know any asian scalper with a higher expectancy rate + higher average win-rate vs the average loss-rate + is able to trade 15 different pairs + can provide that good backtests.
This one is pretty close at $159.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/evonightea/2252381


Yeah I know EvoNight. This EA is only able to trade 6 pairs and is only optimized for a short period + I made 99% backtests of it. Some pair fail here. And this EA failed very hard before 09/17.
I don't think that it is a stable system on long term, but we will see. :-)



You are not right: EvoNight haven't been optimized for any period ;) If you test since September 2017, you will get only losses too, but at Live - profit. You can test it at another pairs too, but not at tester. Here are trades from Live account for EvoNight since Feb 2017 for recommended 6 pairs:

(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F13%2F13-01-201817-42-33.md.jpg&hash=e72927a5c9b7ae80fe44087c308d0931) (http://fxpics.ru/image/ZknlT)
(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F13%2F13-01-201817-42-46.md.jpg&hash=25d1f6873c8d50e552741f37c0e65ef2) (http://fxpics.ru/image/ZklCK)

Yes, and all period at tester only losses :D

Any backtests for Night Scalper have a quality not more 50%. I had a system with amazing backtests, but at real perfomance not so good. Why? Because Dukascopy quotes are not so good for night scalping and ever for scalpers. So we can test this systems only at Live.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on December 20, 2018, 05:21:38 AM
Gonna take a decent hit with the GbpAud short by the looks of it. Two opportunities to close at a small loss were missed by the bot.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: anjelo on December 20, 2018, 05:49:43 AM
When will the 1.3 version be ready?

Finished the development and prepare all backtests currently.
Will be done soon.


@forexcyborg, any info about the 1.3 version?

v1.3 will be released once the main FXPIG account has been fully recovered. This will be (hopefully) in the next days.
I just don't like to change settings during a DD.
That is why I would never stop using a EA during a DD as long as it's with the expected area.

Thanks for your response forexcyborg. Appreciate it.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on December 20, 2018, 05:53:57 AM
Promising start turned into a disappointing session. Bot took full SL on GbpAud short after missing 2 exit opportunities.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on December 20, 2018, 03:25:03 PM
No issues with the stop trading on Friday setting for me.
I do believe that having trades open over the weekend will eventually catch up with you no matter what the returns are. It just takes one big gap to wipe out a lot of gains or a whole account and it seems to come along every now and again. So for me I am happy to stay relaxed over the weekends with no trades.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on December 22, 2018, 08:37:57 PM
Hello guys,

I just wanted to announce, that we now have a 15% xmas and new year discount again.

It's time limited until the 15.01.2019

The discount code is: 38579ec9aa
You can use the code during the checkout.

We wish everyone happy holidays and a great time with your families!


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: laracroft on December 26, 2018, 07:43:23 PM
I suspended all my expert advisors (including Forex Cyborg) from December 24th until January 2nd.
And what do you do?
 
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on December 28, 2018, 10:14:17 PM
I suspended all my expert advisors (including Forex Cyborg) from December 24th until January 2nd.
And what do you do?

As you can see, we are running it non stop.

Forex Cyborg was tested & optimized to trade 24/7, without any stops.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on December 28, 2018, 10:32:12 PM
I suspended all my expert advisors (including Forex Cyborg) from December 24th until January 2nd.
And what do you do?

My account made 131.5 pips for 4.92% gain this week. Still trading Fridays despite a complete re-install on a fresh MT4 which is frustrating.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on December 28, 2018, 11:09:19 PM
To round off the year, for those of us who bought the Cyborg EA in partnership with others:

(a) What is the latest version; is it still v.1.2?

(b) Is there any update in the works and when can we expect one?

(c) Is there a possibility of devising a system like Wallstreet or Legend [There is one login where there is a limit to the number  of live accounts (In this case three), which can be posted at a one time], whereby those who purchased the EA in a group can each log in and update their account without becoming a nuisance to the one whose name is on the p.o.?

Regards,
HumbleTrader



Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on December 31, 2018, 07:08:25 PM
To round off the year, for those of us who bought the Cyborg EA in partnership with others:

(a) What is the latest version; is it still v.1.2?

(b) Is there any update in the works and when can we expect one?

(c) Is there a possibility of devising a system like Wallstreet or Legend [There is one login where there is a limit to the number  of live accounts (In this case three), which can be posted at a one time], whereby those who purchased the EA in a group can each log in and update their account without becoming a nuisance to the one whose name is on the p.o.?

Regards,
HumbleTrader


Hello HumbleTrader,

here are the answers:

a & b) Yes v1.2 is the lastest version, but I currently create new backtests for the website and everything for the update. Just fixed the reported bug of HFT today. v1.3 will include this. The release will be done in this week, maybe already in the next 1-2 days.

c) Not planned at the moment.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on December 31, 2018, 07:32:29 PM
Hello guys,

This year will end up soon here in germany and I just want to wish you all a happy new year.
I hope for us all that we will have a great trading year in 2019, especially with the help of Forex Cyborg  :D

At the end of the year, I want to give everyone a overview about the performance of Forex Cyborg this year. We ended up with 0% DD and the most excited thing: All profits were taken 100% automated, without any interruption or changes in the set ups. The second year Forex Cyborg made profit.

Here are the facts for this year for the different brokers we are running Forex Cyborg:

FXPIG (our main account):
Gain: +133.31%
Avg. monthly gain: +7.20%
Trades: 827 (69% won)
Pips: +2670.70
Max. DD this year: < 17%


Darwinex:
Gain: +118.81%
Avg. monthly gain: +6.64%
Trades: 801 (70% won)
Pips: +2434.60
Max. DD this year: < 17%


Circle Markets:
Gain: +132.43%
Avg. monthly gain: +7.21%
Trades: 811 (69% won)
Pips: +2272.50
Max. DD this year: < 25%


IC Markets (Started at the 5.3., so we have only limited data for 2018):
Gain: +81.34%
Avg. monthly gain: +6.10%
Trades: 639 (74% won)
Pips: +1841.20
Max. DD this year: < 11%



And at last our high risk account at Circle markets:

Gain: +235.35%
Avg. monthly gain: +10.50%
Trades: 962 (70% won)
Pips: +2654.10
Max. DD this year: < 29%



Some word about Circle Markets: They had a great feed, but some technical problems at the start of 2018. They solved the technical problems after 2-3 month, but this resulted in quite bad trading conditions. They improved it again this month. I already see the changes and they will soon have another change that will improve the trading there again. So hopefully Circle Markets will perform great in 2019.

And we will soon publish another broker we are running Forex Cyborg at. After our first tests it looks like this broker could outperform the most brokers.


That's all for now. Don't forget that we still have our 15% discount active.


Again: Happy new year all!
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on December 31, 2018, 08:04:33 PM
Hi ForexCyborg,

Thanks very much for your recent posts. Very glad that we will soon have the new version and that the Friday Closure bug has been fixed.

Congratulations on your  2018 performance and here's hoping that next year will be at least as good! :)

Happy New Year,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on January 01, 2019, 04:12:51 AM
Hello guys,

This year will end up soon here in germany and I just want to wish you all a happy new year.
I hope for us all that we will have a great trading year in 2019, especially with the help of Forex Cyborg  :D

At the end of the year, I want to give everyone a overview about the performance of Forex Cyborg this year. We ended up with 0% DD and the most excited thing: All profits were taken 100% automated, without any interruption or changes in the set ups. The second year Forex Cyborg made profit.

Here are the facts for this year for the different brokers we are running Forex Cyborg:

FXPIG (our main account):
Gain: +133.31%
Avg. monthly gain: +7.20%
Trades: 827 (69% won)
Pips: +2670.70
Max. DD this year: < 17%


Darwinex:
Gain: +118.81%
Avg. monthly gain: +6.64%
Trades: 801 (70% won)
Pips: +2434.60
Max. DD this year: < 17%


Circle Markets:
Gain: +132.43%
Avg. monthly gain: +7.21%
Trades: 811 (69% won)
Pips: +2272.50
Max. DD this year: < 25%


IC Markets (Started at the 5.3., so we have only limited data for 2018):
Gain: +81.34%
Avg. monthly gain: +6.10%
Trades: 639 (74% won)
Pips: +1841.20
Max. DD this year: < 11%



And at last our high risk account at Circle markets:

Gain: +235.35%
Avg. monthly gain: +10.50%
Trades: 962 (70% won)
Pips: +2654.10
Max. DD this year: < 29%



Some word about Circle Markets: They had a great feed, but some technical problems at the start of 2018. They solved the technical problems after 2-3 month, but this resulted in quite bad trading conditions. They improved it again this month. I already see the changes and they will soon have another change that will improve the trading there again. So hopefully Circle Markets will perform great in 2019.

And we will soon publish another broker we are running Forex Cyborg at. After our first tests it looks like this broker could outperform the most brokers.


That's all for now. Don't forget that we still have our 15% discount active.


Again: Happy new year all!

Great results for the year. Looking forward to another successful year ahead in 2019. Happy New Year!
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on January 01, 2019, 05:22:25 AM


great job mr cyborg :)

sure a great performance other scalpers can only dream of, keep it up.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Archer Asset Management on January 01, 2019, 05:44:15 PM
anyone wanna buy my 2 licences, i have the premium package but i only need 1 licence now
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on January 01, 2019, 11:09:11 PM
One more question, Cyborg, if you please?

I don't know if this question has been answered previously but I notice although the risk may be standard for all pairs, the lot size is automatically adjusted for each trading pair.

Is the lot adjustment (a) Based on the profit factor of each trading pair and  (b) Is this lot adjustment "dynamic"; that is it changes as each currency pair increases or decreases it's success (profit factor), over time?

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 02, 2019, 02:02:28 AM
One more question, Cyborg, if you please?

I don't know if this question has been answered previously but I notice although the risk may be standard for all pairs, the lot size is automatically adjusted for each trading pair.

Is the lot adjustment (a) Based on the profit factor of each trading pair and  (b) Is this lot adjustment "dynamic"; that is it changes as each currency pair increases or decreases it's success (profit factor), over time?

Regards,
HumbleTrader

Sure, no problem.

The lot calculation is not based on the profit factor.
The base is your "Risk per Trade". Each pair has a different tick value and a different SL.
Based on this informations Forex Cyborg calculate the lot size, so that you will loose the % of your balance based on your "Risk per trade".

To make it a bit more easy, I will explain it with some numbers:

Lets say your "Risk per Trade" would be 4.5% and your balance (that's our current balance of the FXPIG account) 6852.70 EUR.
EURUSD has a SL of 70 pips.

If Forex Cyborg opens a trade, you will get a 0.50 lot position. If this position will now run into a SL, than you will loose 4.5% of your balance (something around 308 EUR).

You can verify this numbers here: https://www.babypips.com/tools/position-size-calculator

I hope you get it  :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: petersurrey on January 02, 2019, 02:11:07 AM
Hi Cyborg - good year, well done!  IC Markets looks better than 6% month - more like 8% and the best overall broker if you look at the low DD  - any reason why myfxbook is making this return value lower (based on the gross profit and months traded this year)?
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: laracroft on January 02, 2019, 03:53:10 PM
I confirm that the best performance of Forex Cyborg is on the ICMarkets broker, probably because of its lower spreads that allow you to close the operations first.
The performance of the EA on my ICMarkets account (where it runs in ranging from 1.5 to 2.5 lots) is almost exactly the same as in the official account of the supplier.
Happy New Year wishes to the creator of the EA, Paul, and to all users of this forum

Greetings from Angelo
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on January 02, 2019, 10:49:01 PM
Ooops..............spoke too soon  :o
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on January 02, 2019, 10:57:52 PM

gee, very very bad night..................

did a nuke go of somewhere, uj went kaboom as well as many other pairs.

cant find anything in the news.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on January 02, 2019, 11:07:21 PM

gee, very very bad night..................

did a nuke go of somewhere, uj went kaboom as well as many other pairs.

cant find anything in the news.

Massive losses from most EA's! That Euro tanked!  :'( :'(

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 02, 2019, 11:29:26 PM
Yes very very painful...
I lost so much on all my accounts...
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on January 02, 2019, 11:38:03 PM
16% loss with Cyborg......18% loss with Best Scalper. Happy New Year!  :'(
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 05, 2019, 06:40:47 PM
Hello guys,

v1.3 is released. I send out a e-mail to all customers.

Write me a e-mail at support@forexcyborg.com, if you don't received the e-mail with the download-link.

I hope the new version will help to recover the lastest losses more quickly.
For the future, I will implement a trading stop between christmas + new year.
Title: Re: forex cyborg- MaxCorrelatedTradesPerCurrency
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on January 06, 2019, 09:48:50 PM
Hello, Cyborg.

I like the "MinRiskCorrelation", feature of Cyborg but it would be more helpful if one is trading Cyborg with other EA's and it would sense pairs already in trades of the same currencies; would that be something you might consider, if doable, programming wise, in the next update? Thinking out loud, would placing the same magic number with the other EA(s) do this?


Regards,
HumbleTrader

Title: Re: forex cyborg- MaxCorrelatedTradesPerCurrency
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 07, 2019, 10:02:03 AM
Hello, Cyborg.

I like the "MinRiskCorrelation", feature of Cyborg but it would be more helpful if one is trading Cyborg with other EA's and it would sense pairs already in trades of the same currencies; would that be something you might consider, if doable, programming wise, in the next update? Thinking out loud, would placing the same magic number with the other EA(s) do this?


Regards,
HumbleTrader


Hello HumbleTrader,

you are right. Just using the same magic number between different EAs will already end up in the wished behaviour.
Forex Cyborg is looking for the same magic number and does not care if the position was opened by himself. You can use it even in combination with manual trades by using the magic number 0.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on January 07, 2019, 03:19:44 PM
I am not sure that new pair eurnzd can make money with the swap rate that it has. It is bad at an average broker but if you are trading at FxPig you might want to skip this pair. I think with the commission added to triple swap day it is going to be around $80 USD for a long trade on one full lot. It looks like only the brokers will win on this trade.
I would like to see more control over the timing of trades.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on January 07, 2019, 05:41:04 PM
I am not sure that new pair eurnzd can make money with the swap rate that it has. It is bad at an average broker but if you are trading at FxPig you might want to skip this pair. I think with the commission added to triple swap day it is going to be around $80 USD for a long trade on one full lot. It looks like only the brokers will win on this trade.
I would like to see more control over the timing of trades.

the time has come to convert to islam,

no more swap charges :)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 07, 2019, 06:36:40 PM
I am not sure that new pair eurnzd can make money with the swap rate that it has. It is bad at an average broker but if you are trading at FxPig you might want to skip this pair. I think with the commission added to triple swap day it is going to be around $80 USD for a long trade on one full lot. It looks like only the brokers will win on this trade.
I would like to see more control over the timing of trades.

Hello bearnakedbull,

I think you overestimate the swap costs a bit.

I made two backtests for you to compare the long term results, based on the current (honestly really high) FXPIG swap rates.

Here are the current rates I used for the backtest:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4c2666rle8uzp4d/EURNZD_swap_settings.png?dl=0

Here are the results without swap costs:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/olt9vbws600yadx/EURNZD_without_swap.png?dl=0

And here are with swap costs:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lff6o6klm59ejll/EURNZD_with_swap.png?dl=0


Both backtests are done with 1000 USD, 0.1 fixed lot per trade from 01.01.2011 - 28.12.2018 (like the newly published backtests on our website)

As long as there is no bug in the swap calculation with TDS2, I would say that it could be a profitable pair too.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on January 08, 2019, 04:13:38 PM
I am not sure that new pair eurnzd can make money with the swap rate that it has. It is bad at an average broker but if you are trading at FxPig you might want to skip this pair. I think with the commission added to triple swap day it is going to be around $80 USD for a long trade on one full lot. It looks like only the brokers will win on this trade.
I would like to see more control over the timing of trades.

Hello bearnakedbull,

I think you overestimate the swap costs a bit.

I made two backtests for you to compare the long term results, based on the current (honestly really high) FXPIG swap rates.

Here are the current rates I used for the backtest:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4c2666rle8uzp4d/EURNZD_swap_settings.png?dl=0

Here are the results without swap costs:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/olt9vbws600yadx/EURNZD_without_swap.png?dl=0

And here are with swap costs:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lff6o6klm59ejll/EURNZD_with_swap.png?dl=0


Both backtests are done with 1000 USD, 0.1 fixed lot per trade from 01.01.2011 - 28.12.2018 (like the newly published backtests on our website)

As long as there is no bug in the swap calculation with TDS2, I would say that it could be a profitable pair too.
Thank you for all of your hard work. For now I have just switched the "Short" only trade in the common property box so that I can benefit from the positive swap. It is an easy solution for now.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: legna on January 12, 2019, 02:55:25 PM
hi

i have questions about forex cyborg ea

1) we should attach ea only one pair chart or we should add expert ınto every pair that we want to use?

2) what should be setting for gmt +1 broker?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on January 12, 2019, 06:18:42 PM
hi

i have questions about forex cyborg ea

1) we should attach ea only one pair chart or we should add expert ınto every pair that we want to use?

2) what should be setting for gmt +1 broker?

Thanks in advance

Hello, legna.

I am not the person best qualified but since you might want to get started, I will answer your questions and stand to be corrected by others or at best by Cyborg team when they get to your question:

1- Attach the EA to all charts of all currency pairs recommended.

2- As I understand it, Cyborg adjust time automatically as per your broker.


Hope this helps for now.  ;)

Regards,
HumbleTrader

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: legna on January 12, 2019, 06:41:46 PM
Thanks for quick reply

i got it

so we need to attach expert every chart we choose

if we choose 5 pair as an example how should we set the parameter max coraleted trades per currency?

there ıs wrıtten 2 as default

can you please explaın me what does parameter means?

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on January 13, 2019, 08:43:58 PM
Thanks for quick reply

i got it

so we need to attach expert every chart we choose

if we choose 5 pair as an example how should we set the parameter max coraleted trades per currency?

there ıs wrıtten 2 as default

can you please explaın me what does parameter means?

Hello legna,

Yes you can choose the 5 pairs you like to trade by attaching the expert to this 5 charts.
You can leave the max. correlated trades per currency by the default settings or even reduce it to 1, if you like to reduce your risk.

You can find a detailed explaination with a example in the instruction you should have, when you bought Forex Cyborg.

You can write us at support@forexcyborg.com, if you miss this document.


Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on January 14, 2019, 07:50:24 PM
Hello, Paul.

May I suggest you minimize that, "Leave a message" tab; it's annoying and a visitor cannot examine your site: At least put it to the side small enough so that it doesn't hinder someone wanting to scroll down and visit your site.

http://www.forexcyborg.com/

Just trying to be helpful. :)

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: reinerh on January 14, 2019, 09:21:13 PM
Hello, Paul.

May I suggest you minimize that, "Leave a message" tab; it's annoying and a visitor cannot examine your site: At least put it to the side small enough so that it doesn't hinder someone wanting to scroll down and visit your site.

http://www.forexcyborg.com/

Just trying to be helpful. :)

Regards,
HumbleTrader

leave message shows up bottom right as a little flag, thats not all to intrusive.

upon landing, hit get started and there you have it all.

it looks pretty spiffy to me the way it is.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on January 14, 2019, 09:33:19 PM
Hello, Paul.

May I suggest you minimize that, "Leave a message" tab; it's annoying and a visitor cannot examine your site: At least put it to the side small enough so that it doesn't hinder someone wanting to scroll down and visit your site.

http://www.forexcyborg.com/

Just trying to be helpful. :)

Regards,
HumbleTrader

leave message shows up bottom right as a little flag, thats not all to intrusive.

upon landing, hit get started and there you have it all.

it looks pretty spiffy to me the way it is.

Right, now I saw the green tab after 5-6 visits; if you scroll too quickly to avoid the tab (intuitive) you will miss the green rectangle; perhaps a user's manual, to begin with, might save the day.  ;)

May I suggest two tabs, one green "Move on", the other, "Leave a message".

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on January 25, 2019, 12:56:12 AM
Another big hit on GbpAud. This pair has lost 10% so I have removed it along with UsdCad which has lost 14%.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on January 25, 2019, 01:50:25 AM
Another big hit on GbpAud. This pair has lost 10% so I have removed it along with UsdCad which has lost 14%.

Its been a bad day for EA's today by the way the market has whipsawed: Although I haven't had any major losses "yet" (positions are still open); Cyborg's GBP/CHF is down 401 pips while the Legend's USD/CAD is down 101 pips.  :'(

Any prayers welcomed.   ;)

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: HFT Group on January 25, 2019, 02:06:09 AM
Another big hit on GbpAud. This pair has lost 10% so I have removed it along with UsdCad which has lost 14%.

Its been a bad day for EA's today by the way the market has whipsawed: Although I haven't had any major losses "yet" (positions are still open); Cyborg's GBP/CHF is down 401 pips while the Legend's USD/CAD is down 101 pips.  :'(

Any prayers welcomed.   ;)

Regards,
HumbleTrader

Weird.......my GbpChf trade closed for 1.1 pips of profit.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Byte on February 18, 2019, 03:49:03 PM
I have been very happy with Forex Cyborg last year. I stopped the EA this year when the British parliament decided on the Brexit agreement (or I should say did NOT). In the end, I never transitioned to 1.3 and did not trade the EA so far this year.
Now that I want to get it started again, I am moving the whole thing to a new server and use it as an opportunity to rethink my settings.
So I was wondering what everyone's thoughts are on (a) which pairs to use (or just all) and (b) whether to use the correlation protection or not.
One way or the other, this must be the EA that has made me the most money so far, despite the hit early January. Hopefully, it was not just working in 2018. So hard to know with markets always changing.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on February 18, 2019, 06:48:48 PM
I have been very happy with Forex Cyborg last year. I stopped the EA this year when the British parliament decided on the Brexit agreement (or I should say did NOT). In the end, I never transitioned to 1.3 and did not trade the EA so far this year.
Now that I want to get it started again, I am moving the whole thing to a new server and use it as an opportunity to rethink my settings.
So I was wondering what everyone's thoughts are on (a) which pairs to use (or just all) and (b) whether to use the correlation protection or not.
One way or the other, this must be the EA that has made me the most money so far, despite the hit early January. Hopefully, it was not just working in 2018. So hard to know with markets always changing.


Welcome back  :)
I'm happy you have a positive review about Forex Cyborg.

I recommend to use all pairs, but there are some users that pick a few pairs only. Maybe some of them can reply here.

The flash crash early this year hit quite hard. Without it, the performance would look quite good.

Running Forex Cyborg at a low risk setup seems to be a good idea too:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexgermany/forex-cyborg/2178360
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on February 18, 2019, 07:00:09 PM
I have been very happy with Forex Cyborg last year. I stopped the EA this year when the British parliament decided on the Brexit agreement (or I should say did NOT). In the end, I never transitioned to 1.3 and did not trade the EA so far this year.
Now that I want to get it started again, I am moving the whole thing to a new server and use it as an opportunity to rethink my settings.
So I was wondering what everyone's thoughts are on (a) which pairs to use (or just all) and (b) whether to use the correlation protection or not.
One way or the other, this must be the EA that has made me the most money so far, despite the hit early January. Hopefully, it was not just working in 2018. So hard to know with markets always changing.


Welcome back  :)
I'm happy you have a positive review about Forex Cyborg.

I recommend to use all pairs, but there are some users that pick a few pairs only. Maybe some of them can reply here.

The flash crash early this year hit quite hard. Without it, the performance would look quite good.

Running Forex Cyborg at a low risk setup seems to be a good idea too:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexgermany/forex-cyborg/2178360


Hello, Cyborg and thank you for being here.

Will you please give us some ranges as to what you concider low, medium and high risk, in % terms.  For example, do you know the risk allocation of the forex Germany post?

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on February 19, 2019, 07:59:46 AM
Hello Humble,

as far as I know, Forex Germany seems to use the half default risk. So about 1.75% risk per trade.

My accounts are running with 4.5% risk per trade (except the high risk account)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Byte on February 19, 2019, 02:27:33 PM
Thank you Forex Cyborg for your thoughts. I am setting mine up with 4.5% per trade which I had before and leave the correlation protection in place. I am very curious to see how this goes.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on February 26, 2019, 03:59:13 PM
Yesterday was another rough day for Cyborg! :(  The vendor's reference account @ FXPIG lost 12% yesterday and is down 22% for the year. I am having similar results.

2018 was a good year on the reference account gaining 133%. But unfortunately since I started running it on July 10, 2018 to now the reference account has lost 8.6%. As usual I have very bad timing! That's a little over 7 months of stagnation/loss.

As the vendor suggests I try to take a long term view but this is getting difficult to bear! Not long ago we were given a new version that I imagine was re-optimized. It also had 2 more pairs added. So with recent optimization I'm not too sure what more he can do.

HumbleTrader, I think you have been running with only the pairs that have done well in the recent past? How is that working out?

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: bearnakedbull on February 26, 2019, 04:19:26 PM
Similar dilemma here as well. I started in June as was giving until Christmas. I had nice gains into year end and them bam. To make things worse I added the extra license which was a waste of money at this point. As I mentioned several times on the BS topic, unless you can gain some decent income then this is all an academic experiment. The VPS, the license and the time spent just to lose money have me very cllose to quiting forex altogether.
 I will i give it until the end of May which will make one year at the current the broker with this EA and if I am not winning by then you can say goodbye to the bnb.
I have disabled some gbp pairs in effort to return to winning fyi.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: vidagig on February 26, 2019, 07:27:40 PM
Hi Paul and everyone

Been lurking for some months and this is my first post. I'll share my ideas, questions and observations in a constructive spirit of us all including 'the vendor' being on the same side of the same team.

Firstly my compliments and thanks to Paul for all his work over many years developing this very smart and consistently extremely effective (when it works) system; and providing a high level of support, transparency and engagement which I'm sure we all appreciate.

I hope Paul and all the longstanding members here will address my questions with clear and logical answers and or discussion; being frank and possessed of sufficient humility to acknowledge when something needs looking into or reconsidering, etc.

OK, so here goes... in some attempted logical progression of thought and priorities.

Apologies in advance for the length, any lack of tact, and/or mistakes.

Preface: There is much useful data for us all to consider on the MFXBook accounts - I will refer to the FXPig account because it has the longest history.

It dates back to the potential 'red flag' 'custom start date' of 9 May 2017 ( I do recall this question being addressed somewhere in the past to the effect that prior to this date other systems were running on this account or something plausible to that effect vs. e.g. the system took a 50% drawdown in April 2017 : ) I note that setting an earlier 'custom start date' does not reveal more data. Regardless this is not very important - the system and broker is verified to the (reasonable) extent possible on MyFXBook.
(and we can all verify it is trading on our accounts quite accurately in line with the MyFXBook data)

System strategy and Risk:Reward

We don't know the strategy - we bought a 'black box' and aren't privy to Paul's valuable Intellectual Property (fair enough).
We can deduce some clues from the trade history and individual trades:

1.a) We can see it is not a Martingale system - it doesn't add more and bigger trades when losing which works great until it blows up - we've all seen plenty of those systems..

b) We can see that it does a super-human job of sitting through a long big open loss ('adverse excursion' being the colorful under-stated term) and cleverly exiting at or close to breakeven. An aside here: I note often when this happens the trade goes into profit very shortly after exit - so presume Paul has not found a way of eking out a consistent (backtested) profit vs. just getting out at close to breakeven in these situations. This is a good point for further testing, but I digress somewhat..

c) BUT the Stop Losses of e.g. say 80 - 120 pips are very large, whilst the Take Profit is e.g. - based on Average Winning trade - stats - about 10 pips. So, you need +- 10 winners for every loser just to break even. I.e. this system has a very high Loss to Profit Size Ratio of 10:1. So, to consistently make a profit would require a Winners to Losing Trades ratio of more than 10:1.

The stats show Longs won 66% and Shorts Won 71% so if my rudimentary math is correct that's and average of 68.5% Win: Loss Ratio - say generously a 7:1 Win: Loss ratio - less than the required at least 10:1 illustrated above.

Yes, I know it often takes smaller losses - says average loss -11,9 pips vs average win +9.11 pips - and has bigger Take Profit targets and often takes a bigger profit and even a huge windfall profit occasionally, but consider further - I'm just trying to illustrate and apply some basic money management / system principles here, and how they pertain to the performance we're experiencing:

d) The Win: Loss ratio and 'Equity Curve' (on the Growth Chart) from the end of the 25% drawdown on 30 August 2017 - that started from the Equity peak on 27 July 2017 was an excellent consistently winning recovery by December 2018 ... and continued well, until July 2018:
There were +-8 biggish losing days vs. a good few hundred winning trades (and/or days) - I'm not going to count.
E.g. let's say for illustrative purposes: 200 winners vs. 10 losers = 20:1 Winners:Losers ratio; and Loss:Profit Size Ratio 10:1 = a long-term consistently winning system - fantastic, I'm all in!

e) Worth noting: even with this excellent performance after the above- mentioned drawdown - it took +- 3.5 months (to 12 Dec 2017) to recover back to the July 2017 'High Water Mark' (Peak). Then a spectacular January 2018 +55% accounts for much of the gains for 2018 (if you got in before July) - the remaining 6 months of 2018 being roughly breakeven to losing and very volatile.
[Note: math and stats are not my strong suite so apologies for any mistakes here but I hope the critical concept of Win: Loss ratio coupled with Profit: Loss size ratio is adequately communicated - and how it pertains to the stats we have to work with - which do not appear to look good]

3.a) In my experience and I'm sure you'll agree - the 'equity curve' or the 'Growth' chart is very important and informative. I also find it effective to analyse it with basic TA like any instrument to assess the probability of future growth and potential risk vs.reward, drawdown behaviour etc.
- Since July 2018 the system has had far too high both Losers:Winners Ratio and Loss Size: Profit size ratio = a consistent loser. We have a chart that is consolidating with massive volatility (20 - 30%) = bad. It hasn't 'fallen off a cliff' and blown up, but the risk reward of this kind of performance - is a coin flip at best - especially if you start at a bad time - like many have e.g. in July 2017. This is not something any rational let alone conservative investment manager would risk worthwhile amounts of money on.

b) The only people making consistent (and guaranteed) money here is 'the vendor(/s)' and the brokers (and anyone who may have a 'referral' or some other cut of the brokers' spread and trade commissions) - on a system that trades EXTREMELY frequently. This system is a broker's dream money machine - especially if they've identified you as a consistent loser and are on the other side of your trades in addition to spread and comish, but I digress again.

c) In my past experience with a rare few excellent systems - as with traders - it is helpful to pause or reduce risk based on the equity curve - just like the stock market - when it looks like it's hit a bottom and recovered - try get back in. Or, if it's been consolidating - pause - and if it breaks to the upside - try get back in. Or if it's run up hard, and taken a couple of hits it may have peaked so reduce risk or stand aside etc etc.
       - Paul's preface in the instructions to view this as a long term investment and prepare for volatility is generally good advice  - but it is also true that it is prudent risk and money-management to remain as rational as possible, to "cut your losses and let your winners run" and/or take your profits and stand aside if you're uncertain or 'emotionally destabilized' (to paraphrase Mark Douglas in his 'Disciplined Trader'). And to accept and try to learn from your mistakes, accepting you made your best call on the available info to the best of your ability in this supremely challenging environment.

4. Point being - Since July the system is screaming at us that it is broken - it is a bad bet - and you'd do better to stand aside until it is fixed if it is possible. I'd rather miss a 20% profit than have to take a 20% loss and the risk and time just to get back to break-even - as mentioned in the 3 month recovery of the 2017 drawdown.

5. I'm not sure people appreciate the extremely high risk being taken on each of the frequent trades: The 'default' 'Risk Per Trade' setting is 3% and people are cranking it up to 4.5%. At 3% loss per trade you're taking a 9% loss on one losing day with 3 losers. 3 of those days and you're rapidly in a 30% drawdown requiring a 40% return (taking 3 - 4 months) just to get back to breakeven. And as mentioned this system trades extremely frequently with quite often from 3 to 6 trades on a day - that's a lot of trades - arguably it's 'over-trading'
Yes, at your high risk level of 4.5% you can recover quickly - as you have - only to give it all back in a day or 3 - repeatedly - as has been the case since July 2017 - 8 long and painful months ago.

6. The backtests of V 1.3 on the website (I have analysed them in detail using EA Analyser) and there are issues I may get into later, but for now attempting brevity (and failing dismally), the salient points are:
The individual currencies and the 'portfolio backtests' show fantastic curves over a credible 8 years data until December 2018.
Here's the crucial point: there has been NO forward testing of version 1.3. before with 'gay abandon' (not that there's anything wrong with that) and hopium we all cranked up the risk.

Also, there are no comparable (identical settings and date period) backtests comparing V 1.2 to V 1.3 - so any improvement can be assessed and verified.

Not only that, but V1.3 is not being publicly forward tested on a separate account to compare with V1.2 to verify if it is actually better! Also, there was no 'out-of -sample' backtesting done - to verify that the system continues to perform reasonably in line with the data it was presumably highly optimized on (possibly heavily over-optimized).
So we're putting blind faith into a system that has been optimized spectacularly for the past with no clue how it should be expected to perform in future. Well, version 1.3 has been out for 2 months so our woefully inadequate forward test indicates it continues the very dangerous performance of version 1.2 since July 2017. You all know the standard disclaimer about "past performance is not indicative of future returns" etc.

7. NB: I think a very important part of the MYFXBook historical data is not being considered:
- This being the 'Advanced Statistics' / Summary - ranked by Profit - from worst to best.
- Surely it must be sensible to remove or at least drastically reduce risk on (at least) the 6 currencies that don't even show a nett profit in over 2 years of history?!
- I know there may be an argument for the 'portfolio blending' effect - that combining nett losing strategies with winning ones can help to smooth out or even improve the overall performance, but considering the performance I don't buy it.

8. Re. Brexit: This has been going on for 2 or so years and (appears to be) only getting worse - and won't be ending anytime soon methinks.
There are 5 x GBP currency pairs - not to mention the many Euro pairs. This time looks like it IS different: the market has been changed - in the past year or two - versus the 6 years of historical data from 2011 - 2016 that this system has been (over?) optimized on - remember it was backtested and optimized from 2011 to 2018 so it does includes some of the 'Brexit Years' but they've been 'odd' years and the system isn't exactly 'killing it'.

I will submit that anyone continuing to trade this should pause and reflect if they're being rational and to consider to stop or drastically reduce their risk setting and funds at risk. I also request Paul to pause and reflect and be very frank with himself in deciding the best way forward; and to be even more transparent with those who have paid a lot for his system in addition to the considerable time and losses many have endured - yes admittedly at ones own risk. (e.g. perhaps via email or a password protected area of his website for verified owners)

For what it's worth I (also) bought this in about June 2018 and fortuitously - at most tested it sporadically for some months on  0.1 or max 1% risk on a small account. I had hoped to trade it on a larger account. Fortunately my painfully earned risk aversion served me well. I hope nobody has had too painful a learning experience.

OK this is way too long already, but wait, there's more.. - you also get...

So, just to add a couple points.

1. We have no backtests of the 'conservative' setting (whatever that does in the 'black box'). It should also be back-tested and presented to compare. We are dependant on Paul and trusting him for (honest) backtests as I for one don't have 8 years historical tick data for 20 currencies or the time or inclination to do this. It's what I paid for.

2. I think Paul is a VERY talented and experienced trader and programmer. I think he's done a better job than most at managing risk - in his strategy and programming. But the risk level is too high; and NB it does not trade selectively enough. So, regrettably - the system in its current form does not appear viable. I hope Paul will consider to go back to the drawing board and make the system's performance more consistent, less volatile; and (possibly much) more selective in its trades - with consistently improved risk/reward (Win:Loss ratio coupled with Profit: Loss size ratio); perhaps requiring lower profit expectations - with the advantage of consistently lower potential drawdowns - because THEN you can viably consider increasing the risk settings and/or trading on account sizes that matter.

b) I also want to emphasize my appreciation and good impression of Paul (based on due-diligence) and commend him highly - as a rare person of integrity in this game fraught with scammers, fraudsters, poseurs, amateurs and the possibly delusional. Thank you Paul! I encourage and urge you to persist with your great work over all these years so far.

3. It is widely known that you do not trade (or substantially reduce your risk) - especially automated systems - from about 20 December to 10 January. Not to mention the US summer months July & August one should be cautious - in these thinly traded low volume times where shennanigans can and are played by those with large bags to swing. Being risk averse you may miss some big winners but they won't 'carry you out on a stretcher' and you get to come back and play tomorrow.

4. Lastly quoting from the website: "...   It incorporates neural networks and deep learning,..." Rearry? - it doesn't appear to be learning very well - care to elaborate on the use of these fashionable buzzwords or verify this? - without disclosing any IP, of course.

I hope this will be received and responded to in the positive spirit it is intended. I know tact and brevity are not my most endearing qualities..
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on February 26, 2019, 09:08:13 PM
Hi Paul and everyone

Been lurking for some months and this is my first post. I'll share my ideas, questions and observations in a constructive spirit of us all including 'the vendor' being on the same side of the same team.

Firstly my compliments and thanks to Paul for all his work over many years developing this very smart and consistently extremely effective (when it works) system; and providing a high level of support, transparency and engagement which I'm sure we all appreciate.

I hope Paul and all the longstanding members here will address my questions with clear and logical answers and or discussion; being frank and possessed of sufficient humility to acknowledge when something needs looking into or reconsidering, etc.

OK, so here goes... in some attempted logical progression of thought and priorities.

Apologies in advance for the length, any lack of tact, and/or mistakes.

Preface: There is much useful data for us all to consider on the MFXBook accounts - I will refer to the FXPig account because it has the longest history.

It dates back to the potential 'red flag' 'custom start date' of 9 May 2017 ( I do recall this question being addressed somewhere in the past to the effect that prior to this date other systems were running on this account or something plausible to that effect vs. e.g. the system took a 50% drawdown in April 2017 :) I note that setting an earlier 'custom start date' does not reveal more data. Regardless this is not very important - the system and broker is verified to the (reasonable) extent possible on MYFXBook.
(and we can all verify it is trading on our accounts quite accurately in line with the MyFXBook data)

System strategy and Risk:Reward

We don't know the strategy - we bought a 'black box' and aren't privy to Paul's valuable Intellectual Property (fair enough).
We can deduce some clues from the trade history and individual trades:

1.a) We can see it is not a Martingale system - it doesn't add more and bigger trades when losing which works great until it blows up - we've all seen plenty of those systems..

b) We can see that it does a super-human job of sitting through a long big open loss ('adverse excursion' being the colorful under-stated term) and cleverly exiting at or close to breakeven. An aside here: I note often when this happens the trade goes into profit very shortly after exit - so presume Paul has not found a way of eking out a consistent (backtested) profit vs. just getting out at close to breakeven in these situations. This is a good point for further testing, but I digress somewhat..

c) BUT the Stop Losses of e.g. say 80 - 120 pips are very large, whilst the Take Profit is e.g. - based on Average Winning trade - stats - about 10 pips. So, you need +- 10 winners for every loser just to break even. I.e. this system has a very high Loss to Profit Size Ratio of 10:1. So, to consistently make a profit would require a Winners to Losing Trades ratio of more than 10:1.

The stats show Longs won 66% and Shorts Won 71% so if my rudimentary math is correct that's and average of 68.5% Win: Loss Ratio - say generously a 7:1 Win: Loss ratio - less than the required at least 10:1 illustrated above.

Yes, I know it often takes smaller losses - says average loss -11,9 pips vs average win +9.11 pips - and has bigger Take Profit targets and often takes a bigger profit and even a huge windfall profit occasionally, but consider further - I'm just trying to illustrate and apply some basic money management / system principles here, and how they pertain to the performance we're experiencing: (again apologies for any mistakes in trying to communicate this best I can)

2. The Win: Loss ratio and 'Equity Curve' (on the Growth Chart) from the end of the 25% drawdown on 30 August 2017 - that started from the Equity peak on 27 July 2017 was an excellent consistently winning recovery by December 2018 ... and continued well, until July 2018:
There were +-8 biggish losing days vs. a good few hundred winning trades (I'm not going to count) - e.g. let's say for illustrative purposes: 10 losers vs 200 winners = 100:5 Winners:Losers ratio; and Loss:Profit Size Ratio 10:1 = a long-term consistently winning system - fantastic, I'm all in!

- Worth noting: even with this excellent performance after the above- mentioned drawdown - it took +- 3.5 months (to 12 Dec 2017) to recover back to the July 2017 'High Water Mark' (Peak). Then a spectacular January 2018 +55% accounts for most of the gains for 2018 (if you got in at a good time) - the rest of the 2018 year being roughly breakeven to modestly profitable if very volatile.
[Note: math and stats are not my strong suite so apologies for any mistakes here but I hope the critical concept of Win: Loss ratio coupled with Profit: Loss size ratio is adequately communicated - and how it pertains to the stats we have to work with - which do not appear to look good]

3.a) In my experience and I'm sure you'll agree - the 'equity curve' or the 'Growth' chart is very important and informative. I also find it effective to analyse it with basic TA like any instrument to assess the probability of future growth and potential risk vs.reward, drawdown behaviour etc.
- Since July 2017 the system has had far too high both Losers:Winners Ratio and Loss Size: Profit size ratio = a consistent loser. We have a chart that is consolidating with massive volatility (20 - 30%) = bad. It hasn't 'fallen off a cliff' and blown up, but the risk reward of this kind of performance - is a coin flip at best - especially if you start at a bad time - like many have e.g. in July 2017. This is not something any rational let alone conservative investment manager would risk worthwhile amounts of money on.

b) The only people making consistent (and guaranteed) money here is 'the vendor(/s)' and the brokers (and anyone who may have a 'referral' or some other cut of the brokers' spread and trade commissions) - on a system that trades EXTREMELY frequently. This system is a broker's dream money machine - especially if they've identified you as a consistent loser and are on the other side of your trades in addition to spread and comish, but I digress again.

c) In my past experience with a rare few excellent systems - as with traders - it is helpful to pause or reduce risk based on the equity curve - just like the stock market - when it looks like it's hit a bottom and recovered - try get back in. Or, if it's been consolidating - pause - and if it breaks to the upside - try get back in. Or if it's run up hard, and taken a couple of hits it may have peaked so reduce risk or stand aside etc etc.
       - Paul's preface in the instructions to view this as a long term investment and prepare for volatility is generally good advice  - but it is also true that it is prudent risk and money-management to remain as rational as possible, to "cut your losses and let your winners run" and/or take your profits and stand aside if you're uncertain or 'emotionally destabilized' (to paraphrase Mark Douglas in his 'Disciplined Trader'). And to accept and try to learn from your mistakes, accepting you made your best call on the available info to the best of your ability in this supremely challenging environment.

4. Point being - Since July the system is screaming at us that it is broken - it is a bad bet - and you'd do better to stand aside until it is fixed if it is possible. I'd rather miss a 20% profit than have to take a 20% loss and the risk and time just to get back to break-even - as mentioned in the 3 month recovery of the 2017 drawdown.

5. I'm not sure people appreciate the extremely high risk being taken on each of the frequent trades: The 'default' 'Risk Per Trade' setting is 3% and people are cranking it up to 4.5%. At 3% loss per trade you're taking a 9% loss on one losing day with 3 losers. 3 of those days and you're rapidly in a 30% drawdown requiring a 40% return (taking 3 - 4 months) just to get back to breakeven. And as mentioned this system trades extremely frequently with quite often from 3 to 6 trades on a day - that's a lot of trades - arguably it's 'over-trading'
Yes, at your high risk level of 4.5% you can recover quickly - as you have - only to give it all back in a day or 3 - repeatedly - as has been the case since July 2017 - 8 long and painful months ago.

6. The backtests of V 1.3 on the website (I have analysed them in detail using EA Analyser) and there are issues I may get into later, but for now attempting brevity (and failing dismally), the salient points are:
The individual currencies and the 'portfolio backtests' show fantastic curves over a credible 8 years data until December 2018.
Here's the crucial point: there has been NO forward testing of version 1.3. before with 'gay abandon' (not that there's anything wrong with that) and hopium we all cranked up the risk.

Also, there are no comparable (identical settings and date period) backtests comparing V 1.2 to V 1.3 - so any improvement can be assessed and verified.

Not only that, but V1.3 is not being publicly forward tested on a separate account to compare with V1.2 to verify if it is actually better! Also, there was no 'out-of -sample' backtesting done - to verify that the system continues to perform reasonably in line with the data it was presumably highly optimized on (possibly heavily over-optimized).
So we're putting blind faith into a system that has been optimized spectacularly for the past with no clue how it should be expected to perform in future. Well, version 1.3 has been out for 2 months so our woefully inadequate forward test indicates it continues the very dangerous performance of version 1.2 since July 2017. You all know the standard disclaimer about "past performance is not indicative of future returns" etc.

7. NB: I think a very important part of the MYFXBook historical data is not being considered:
- This being the 'Advanced Statistics' / Summary - ranked by Profit - from worst to best.
- Surely it must be sensible to remove or at least drastically reduce risk on (at least) the 6 currencies that don't even show a nett profit in over 2 years of history?!
- I know there may be an argument for the 'portfolio blending' effect - that combining nett losing strategies with winning ones can help to smooth out or even improve the overall performance, but considering the performance I don't buy it.

8. Re. Brexit: This has been going on for 2 or so years and (appears to be) only getting worse - and won't be ending anytime soon methinks.
There are 5 x GBP currency pairs - not to mention the many Euro pairs. This time looks like it IS different: the market has been changed - in the past year or two - versus the 6 years of historical data from 2011 - 2016 that this system has been (over?) optimized on - remember it was backtested and optimized from 2011 to 2018 so it does includes some of the 'Brexit Years' but they've been 'odd' years and the system isn't exactly 'killing it'.

I will submit that anyone continuing to trade this should pause and reflect if they're being rational and to consider to stop or drastically reduce their risk setting and funds at risk. I also request Paul to pause and reflect and be very frank with himself in deciding the best way forward; and to be even more transparent with those who have paid a lot for his system in addition to the considerable time and losses many have endured - yes admittedly at ones own risk. (e.g. perhaps via email or a password protected area of his website for verified owners)

For what it's worth I (also) bought this in about June 2018 and fortuitously - at most tested it sporadically for some months on  0.1 or max 1% risk on a small account. I had hoped to trade it on a larger account. Fortunately my painfully earned risk aversion served me well. I hope nobody has had too painful a learning experience.

OK this is way too long already, but wait, there's more.. - you also get...

So, just to add a couple points.

1. We have no backtests of the 'conservative' setting (whatever that does in the 'black box'). It should also be back-tested and presented to compare. We are dependant on Paul and trusting him for (honest) backtests as I for one don't have 8 years historical tick data for 20 currencies or the time or inclination to do this. It's what I paid for.

2. I think Paul is a VERY talented and experienced trader and programmer. I think he's done a better job than most at managing risk - in his strategy and programming. But the risk level is too high; and NB it does not trade selectively enough. So, regrettably - the system in its current form does not appear viable. I hope Paul will consider to go back to the drawing board and make the system's performance more consistent, less volatile; and (possibly much) more selective in its trades - with consistently improved risk/reward (Win:Loss ratio coupled with Profit: Loss size ratio); perhaps requiring lower profit expectations - with the advantage of consistently lower potential drawdowns - because THEN you can viably consider increasing the risk settings and/or trading on account sizes that matter.

b) I also want to emphasize my appreciation and good impression of Paul (based on due-diligence) and commend him highly - as a rare person of integrity in this game fraught with scammers, fraudsters, poseurs, amateurs and the possibly delusional. Thank you Paul! I encourage and urge you to persist with your great work over all these years so far.

3. It is widely known that you do not trade (or substantially reduce your risk) - especially automated systems - from about 20 December to 10 January. Not to mention the US summer months July & August one should be cautious - in these thinly traded low volume times where shennanigans can and are played by those with large bags to swing. Being risk averse you may miss some big winners but you they don't carry you out on a stretcher and you get to come back and play tomorrow.

4. Lastly quoting from the website: "...   It incorporates neural networks and deep learning,..." Rearry? - it doesn't appear to be learning very well - care to elaborate on the use of these fashionable buzzwords or verify this? - without disclosing any IP, of course.

I hope this will be received and responded to in the positive spirit it is intended. I know tact and brevity are not my most endearing qualities..

Excellent analysis, vidagig; and welcome to DonnaFx.

What I like most about Paul is that he has put his own skin on his EA's performance. There are at least 5 real accounts I can count, not including that of forexgermany which show profit, although some with some DD as you pointed out. I am sure Paul will take into account your observations and I am eager to hear his response as well.  :)


Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on February 28, 2019, 03:01:30 PM
I just sent Paul (ForexCyborg) an email asking him to respond here.

FWIW I have stopped Cyborg which was a difficult decision. :(

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Tolwyn on March 05, 2019, 02:17:03 PM
I thought I would jump in and share my (brief) experience with the EA:


EDIT: re-added the OneDrive link, which was removed by a moderator (OneDrive is using an URL shortener by default, which apparently counts as obfuscation around these neck of the woods  ::))
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on March 05, 2019, 03:28:24 PM
Hi Tolwyn,

Welcome to DonnaForex and thanks very much for your excellent first post. The sharing you have done is really in the spirit of this Forum and I'm sure will help many. :)

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: nwboater on March 05, 2019, 03:29:40 PM
I just sent Paul (ForexCyborg) an email asking him to respond here.

FWIW I have stopped Cyborg which was a difficult decision. :(

Cheers,
Rod

I got a reply from Paul after his vacation. He made what I think are some valid points. He referred to the FXPIG reference account which I also did in my email to him.

1. Cyborg made over 100% in 2018.
2. At the beginning of this year there was 0% DD until the Flash Crash occurred.
3. Re the stagnation period the current DD started this year.
4. I started Cyborg at a high mark. By stopping now I am doing it at a low point. Paul feels 100% confident that it will recover.
5. Using his Risk settings one should not stop it during at DD lower than 30%. It's not there yet.

After considering his email and taking another look at my results I am going to start it again.

Due to Brexit I will probably remove some G pairs, or at least greatly reduce their risk.

Cheers,
Rod
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on April 11, 2019, 11:48:10 AM
Hello, Paul.

What is the latest version of Cyborg; I am still on v1.2?


Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on April 11, 2019, 12:27:28 PM
Hello, Paul.

What is the latest version of Cyborg; I am still on v1.2?


Regards,
HumbleTrader

Hello Humble,

the lastest version is v1.3 since the 5.1.2019
I send out a e-mail to all customers + posted it here in the thread.

I will send out the download link via e-mail for you
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Humble Trader's Fx on April 11, 2019, 01:04:18 PM
Hello, Paul.

What is the latest version of Cyborg; I am still on v1.2?


Regards,
HumbleTrader

Hello Humble,

the lastest version is v1.3 since the 5.1.2019
I send out a e-mail to all customers + posted it here in the thread.

I will send out the download link via e-mail for you

Thanks, Paul. I think I misread the screen: On the right "smiley" it post v1.2 but on the detailed side on the left of the screen, the version is 1.3.

Early morning, vision issue... LOL :o


Thanks anyway.

Regards,
HumbleTrader
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ross80 on April 12, 2019, 09:24:16 AM
Monthly profit looks to me a little low. On the other hand, Forex Cyborg owner has published link to myfxbook but when I visit to check, there are many locked details such as balance, equity, profit... last but not least open trades are closed as well.

Dear Forex Cybrog, Is it possible to keep these locks opened? thx
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: SJWkiller on April 12, 2019, 11:05:58 AM
Monthly profit looks to me a little low. On the other hand, Forex Cyborg owner has published link to myfxbook but when I visit to check, there are many locked details such as balance, equity, profit... last but not least open trades are closed as well.

Dear Forex Cybrog, Is it possible to keep these locks opened? thx

You dont need the balance opened if the trading history is open. There you can see the trade sizes and calculate approximate account value. As for open trades, you cant ask for that. Those are real time trades and there is no reason for them to be open to public. Nobody who wants to sell their system will publicise the currently open trades....
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on April 12, 2019, 11:10:20 AM
Monthly profit looks to me a little low. On the other hand, Forex Cyborg owner has published link to myfxbook but when I visit to check, there are many locked details such as balance, equity, profit... last but not least open trades are closed as well.

Dear Forex Cybrog, Is it possible to keep these locks opened? thx


Hello,

on all official released accounts, all details are unlocked:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-darwinex/2184469 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexcyborg/forex-cyborg-darwinex/2184469)


I think you are talking about the third party account from forexgermany:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexgermany/forex-cyborg/2178360 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexgermany/forex-cyborg/2178360)

This is not published from us. It's a third party account, so we are not able to change / unlock anything here.



Best regards,
Forex Cyborg Team
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ross80 on April 12, 2019, 12:02:44 PM
Thank you for your answer, Forex Cybort.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: 5ninefish on July 19, 2019, 02:14:28 AM
Using the new conservative settings since mid-March, this EA seems to have been on a nice uptrend. This is with a Finpro-based account.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on July 22, 2019, 02:43:33 PM
Using the new conservative settings since mid-March, this EA seems to have been on a nice uptrend. This is with a Finpro-based account.

Thank you very much for your feedback.
Overall the past weeks helped to recover looses or to set new equity highs (depending on the broker you use + the risk settings).

See here the forexgermany account: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexgermany/forex-cyborg/2178360 (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexgermany/forex-cyborg/2178360)
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: dideco on July 22, 2019, 08:45:50 PM
which are the presets for AUDNZD and EURNZD? They are in myfxbook account but not in web site of this EA and they work well.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on July 23, 2019, 12:03:50 PM
which are the presets for AUDNZD and EURNZD? They are in myfxbook account but not in web site of this EA and they work well.

Hello dideco,

the backtests for AUDNZD and EURNZD are listed on forexcyborg.com
Or which web site do you mean?

They are available since version v1.3 and you don't need any presets in order to use them.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Khairalm on August 18, 2019, 05:28:04 PM
Has anyone tried or seen the performance of ForexCyborg on Tradersway or LQDFX?

These are one of the last Brokers that offer >1:400 for US traders


Hey ForexCyborg

do you guys offer a discount for DonnaForex member?

Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: ForexCyborg on August 18, 2019, 08:11:18 PM
Has anyone tried or seen the performance of ForexCyborg on Tradersway or LQDFX?

These are one of the last Brokers that offer >1:400 for US traders


Hey ForexCyborg

do you guys offer a discount for DonnaForex member?

Hello,

Yes, write me a e-mail at support@forexcyborg.com.

Regarding the two brokers:
I didn't tested them, but I can help you to analyse the trading conditions of these brokers if you have a real account to see which one would perform better.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: 5ninefish on August 18, 2019, 09:08:52 PM
Has anyone tried or seen the performance of ForexCyborg on Tradersway or LQDFX?

These are one of the last Brokers that offer >1:400 for US traders


Hey ForexCyborg

do you guys offer a discount for DonnaForex member?

It's running fine for me at Coinexx - it used to be a Finpro account until they became Coinexx. This is one of my last overseas accounts that accepts US traders.
Title: Re: forex cyborg
Post by: Khairalm on August 18, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
Has anyone tried or seen the performance of ForexCyborg on Tradersway or LQDFX?

These are one of the last Brokers that offer >1:400 for US traders


Hey ForexCyborg

do you guys offer a discount for DonnaForex member?

Hello,

Yes, write me a e-mail at support@forexcyborg.com.

Regarding the two brokers:
I didn't tested them, but I can help you to analyse the trading conditions of these brokers if you have a real account to see which one would perform better.

Thanks! I will email you at support@forexcyborg.com

I have real accounts with both. Hiwever, one have no Trades yet, and the other has very limited trades (10)