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Title: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: donnaforex on December 24, 2017, 05:55:32 PM
Please welcome Ivan to the forum, who is here to represent the EA's he offers via MQL5.com

https://www.mql5.com/en/users/ivanvp/seller#products

If you have traded with his EA's, please share your experiences, or leave comments and questions.
Title: Re: Ivan Pochta EA's (via MQL5.com)
Post by: bearnakedbull on December 24, 2017, 06:24:15 PM
Well he might get a little more interest if the first EA I looked at was't showing $10K USD per month as a rental cost but it had only made $28 USD in profit which probably means it is on a cent account. First impression is the usual I get at mql.com, "is this a Joke?" Wading through the crap over there is as bad as doing the same at Zulutrade.
Title: Re: Ivan Pochta EA's (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 24, 2017, 08:03:08 PM
Please welcome Ivan to the forum, who is here to represent the EA's he offers via MQL5.com

https://www.mql5.com/en/users/ivanvp/seller#products

If you have traded with his EA's, please share your experiences, or leave comments and questions.

Thank so much for moderation!

Well he might get a little more interest if the first EA I looked at was't showing $10K USD per month as a rental cost but it had only made $28 USD in profit which probably means it is on a cent account. First impression is the usual I get at mql.com, "is this a Joke?" Wading through the crap over there is as bad as doing the same at Zulutrade.

Hi, you are not right: $10K USD it's a price for signals. There are a lot of scalpers, so there are no sense to subscribe, because the slippage will kill all profit. Renting is available at the product price and it's nearly 60-100$ per month.

At the cent account just a demo monitoring of Apogeum Conservative. Why Cent? I have choised Forex4You for this one demo, because at Cents accounts they are have big Stop Levels (15 pips). All products at market have to work with  any Stop Levels, so it is just testing.

My main product is  Apogeum Price Action. I have working under creation of a system over 2 years. It's a longterm trend system with the big expectency and high Profit Factor. System is working stable since 2000 (during the crisis of 2007-2008 results are good too).
Title: Re: Ivan Pochta EA's (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 25, 2017, 12:56:30 AM
Here are some information about Apogeum Price Action 2.2:

(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2017%2F12%2F25%2Fapa22.md.png&hash=51ddb256a93c11b4440186d17524e211) (http://fxpics.ru/image/Z4fOE)

System is stable since 2000, but I making backtests since 2005, because there are no tick quotes for a lot of pairs for 2003 - 2005. You can download all backtests here: Apogeum Price Action 2.2 Backtests (Dukascopy, TDS2, fix spread 30 points) (https://www.mql5.com/go?link=https://yadi.sk/d/Brepok363Qv7mU)

For all Price Action main - Profit Factor and Expectency.

Here are some results for EURUSD H1 (another pairs yu can recheck by yourself):

(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2017%2F12%2F25%2Feurusdh1.md.png&hash=d28ba479530161a7b89f8c3f4e52b42e) (http://fxpics.ru/image/Z4jsF)

I am sure, Apogeum Price Action 2.2 is a best longterm expert advisor, which are available anywhere!
Title: Re: Ivan Pochta EA's (via MQL5.com)
Post by: reinerh on December 25, 2017, 01:33:35 AM

i backtested Apogeum and yes its quite good no question.

you sure put a lot of work into this strategy. the losses in bad periods are minimal, it only trades fairly rarely seen on a pair basis. running it as portfolio it will be nice to follow along.

5 copies $750, wish there be a single copy option.

Title: Re: Ivan Pochta EA's (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 25, 2017, 02:46:32 AM

i backtested Apogeum and yes its quite good no question.

you sure put a lot of work into this strategy. the losses in bad periods are minimal, it only trades fairly rarely seen on a pair basis. running it as portfolio it will be nice to follow along.

5 copies $750, wish there be a single copy option.
thank you! What do you mean about 5 single copies? Product have a 10 activations (10 different PC), so you can use without problems at 10 PC and unlimited number of accounts.
Title: Re: Ivan Pochta EA's (via MQL5.com)
Post by: reinerh on December 25, 2017, 02:58:20 PM

i backtested Apogeum and yes its quite good no question.

you sure put a lot of work into this strategy. the losses in bad periods are minimal, it only trades fairly rarely seen on a pair basis. running it as portfolio it will be nice to follow along.

5 copies $750, wish there be a single copy option.
thank you! What do you mean about 5 single copies? Product have a 10 activations (10 different PC), so you can use without problems at 10 PC and unlimited number of accounts.

see attachment, i would only need one copy to run on my live account.

i think its a good ea but too expensive for most people.
Title: Re: Ivan Pochta EA's (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 25, 2017, 08:24:42 PM

i backtested Apogeum and yes its quite good no question.

you sure put a lot of work into this strategy. the losses in bad periods are minimal, it only trades fairly rarely seen on a pair basis. running it as portfolio it will be nice to follow along.

5 copies $750, wish there be a single copy option.
thank you! What do you mean about 5 single copies? Product have a 10 activations (10 different PC), so you can use without problems at 10 PC and unlimited number of accounts.

see attachment, i would only need one copy to run on my live account.

i think its a good ea but too expensive for most people.

I wanted to start with the price $750 and then increase it, but people at market are buying tester graals (scalpers) for 1500, then a longterm for 750 =( I sold not a lot of copies, so I decided to fix price for 750.

5 copies by 750 mean, that 5 people can buy by 750 and then price will be increased. Now this info is not actually.
Title: Re: Ivan Pochta EA's (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 25, 2017, 09:13:28 PM

i backtested Apogeum and yes its quite good no question.

you sure put a lot of work into this strategy. the losses in bad periods are minimal, it only trades fairly rarely seen on a pair basis. running it as portfolio it will be nice to follow along.

5 copies $750, wish there be a single copy option.
thank you! What do you mean about 5 single copies? Product have a 10 activations (10 different PC), so you can use without problems at 10 PC and unlimited number of accounts.

see attachment, i would only need one copy to run on my live account.

i think its a good ea but too expensive for most people.

Yes, maybe expensive, but this one is not for mass usage - only for people, which understand "what is it" =)

P.S. If you think Apogeum is expensive, you can try Apogeum Conservative. Now is a Special Christmas Price - $290. It contains a 3 pairs (soon will be 4):

https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/23648 (https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/23648)
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: Byte on December 26, 2017, 08:34:59 AM
@ivanvp: I am considering to buy the EA. I will put the rocket account to rest and try it with something more sustainable  :-[
I was just wondering if there is any Christmas or other special offers that are valid right now.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: simmylaso on December 26, 2017, 10:31:52 AM
What's the difference between Apogeum price action and Apogeum conservative?
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 26, 2017, 01:03:28 PM
@ivanvp: I am considering to buy the EA. I will put the rocket account to rest and try it with something more sustainable  :-[
I was just wondering if there is any Christmas or other special offers that are valid right now.

Hi, now is available Christmas Promo: Buy Apogeum Price Action and get one of my scalpers for free! After purchasing just write me to PMand I will make a copy of a free EA :)

What's the difference between Apogeum price action and Apogeum conservative?

Hi, Apogeum Price Action - it's a full version. Now it's supporting 8 pairs, but some later - 9 (USDCHF is ready and I will add it at version 2.3). Apogeum Conservative have only 3 pairs.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: energetic on December 26, 2017, 02:33:55 PM
This bonus offer seems to be the same in mlq market.
I also want to buy. Any more special bonus to member here ?
@ivanvp: I am considering to buy the EA. I will put the rocket account to rest and try it with something more sustainable  :-[
I was just wondering if there is any Christmas or other special offers that are valid right now.

Hi, now is available Christmas Promo: Buy Apogeum Price Action and get one of my scalpers for free! After purchasing just write me to PMand I will make a copy of a free EA :)

What's the difference between Apogeum price action and Apogeum conservative?

Hi, Apogeum Price Action - it's a full version. Now it's supporting 8 pairs, but some later - 9 (USDCHF is ready and I will add it at version 2.3). Apogeum Conservative have only 3 pairs.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 26, 2017, 02:42:40 PM
This bonus offer seems to be the same in mlq market.
I also want to buy. Any more special bonus to member here ?
@ivanvp: I am considering to buy the EA. I will put the rocket account to rest and try it with something more sustainable  :-[
I was just wondering if there is any Christmas or other special offers that are valid right now.

Hi, now is available Christmas Promo: Buy Apogeum Price Action and get one of my scalpers for free! After purchasing just write me to PMand I will make a copy of a free EA :)

What's the difference between Apogeum price action and Apogeum conservative?

Hi, Apogeum Price Action - it's a full version. Now it's supporting 8 pairs, but some later - 9 (USDCHF is ready and I will add it at version 2.3). Apogeum Conservative have only 3 pairs.

Hi, unfortunately I cannot propose something more now, because I cannot separate market buyers from another. At market a lot of users, which have bought all my EA's without discounts and promos, so if I propose more bonuses it will be not honest for them.

Maximum I can give 2 EA's as a bonuses. Any you choise + PeregrimEA.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: dasher1980 on December 26, 2017, 03:28:43 PM
Do you have any myfxbook link with longer trackrecord? Youre signals all only a couple of weeks old. Surely an EA for 750usd should have some longer live trackrecord no? Or am i missing something?
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 26, 2017, 03:31:07 PM
Do you have any myfxbook link with longer trackrecord? Youre signals all only a couple of weeks old. Surely an EA for 750usd should have some longer live trackrecord no? Or am i missing something?

No, this EA was publiced at November. Now i have a full correlation with the backtests. For system with the high Expectency not a very important monitoring, as for scalpers - main is a correlation.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: bearnakedbull on December 26, 2017, 04:28:40 PM
Do you have any myfxbook link with longer trackrecord? Youre signals all only a couple of weeks old. Surely an EA for 750usd should have some longer live trackrecord no? Or am i missing something?

No, this EA was publiced at November. Now i have a full correlation with the backtests. For system with the high Expectency not a very important monitoring, as for scalpers - main is a correlation.
Whatever you said makes no sense. The previous request was valid, you have no track record and request a lot of money. Most of us over here are cautious because we own most of the lousy ea's that have dwindled our accounts. I get it that you don't want your product going out in large numbers, well maybe I don't get it. But at $750 you better have more than a few weeks if you want sales. I personally wouldn't even set up a sales page without six months and a myfxbook.com account, that it just expected by cautious customers. I won't be purchasing anytime soon because of the above.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: reinerh on December 26, 2017, 04:30:47 PM
why is there a gmt input ?? with a pa action strategy this does not make sense to me.

also what determines its entries ? indicators. or more precisely how well does backtest match to forward results ivan ??

entering on open bar should match well, but as experience has shown data feeds differ between brokers.

also anybody backtesting this, note the wicked lot sizing = risk, very interesting.

by default it runs all pairs, but one can select them individually.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: reinerh on December 26, 2017, 04:36:36 PM
Do you have any myfxbook link with longer trackrecord? Youre signals all only a couple of weeks old. Surely an EA for 750usd should have some longer live trackrecord no? Or am i missing something?

No, this EA was publiced at November. Now i have a full correlation with the backtests. For system with the high Expectency not a very important monitoring, as for scalpers - main is a correlation.
Whatever you said makes no sense. The previous request was valid, you have no track record and request a lot of money. Most of us over here are cautious because we own most of the lousy ea's that have dwindled our accounts. I get it that you don't want your product going out in large numbers, well maybe I don't get it. But at $750 you better have more than a few weeks if you want sales. I personally wouldn't even set up a sales page without six months and a myfxbook.com account, that it just expected by cautious customers. I won't be purchasing anytime soon because of the above.

i agree, so far forward it might have just had a lucky streak, and too many other ea have failed in the years past. and $750 is mighty expensive for an experiment.

from the bt i ran it looks decent, but bt can be questionable as we all learnt over the years.

also no inputs can be changed, so it cant be tailored to a specific brokers data feed.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 26, 2017, 06:10:09 PM
Do you have any myfxbook link with longer trackrecord? Youre signals all only a couple of weeks old. Surely an EA for 750usd should have some longer live trackrecord no? Or am i missing something?

No, this EA was publiced at November. Now i have a full correlation with the backtests. For system with the high Expectency not a very important monitoring, as for scalpers - main is a correlation.
Whatever you said makes no sense. The previous request was valid, you have no track record and request a lot of money. Most of us over here are cautious because we own most of the lousy ea's that have dwindled our accounts. I get it that you don't want your product going out in large numbers, well maybe I don't get it. But at $750 you better have more than a few weeks if you want sales. I personally wouldn't even set up a sales page without six months and a myfxbook.com account, that it just expected by cautious customers. I won't be purchasing anytime soon because of the above.

You are right - you have to be careffuly with your money, because, really, most of EA's are not adapted for real market. But I sure Apogeum will be profitable at the future, so I have started sells and myfxbook account from a start. Why? Because a lot of authors show a history of EA for 6 month, 1 year or over, but at real it's a history of another systems. I know some EA's from a mql5 top (topics of this ea's are available at donnaforex) and people  believe it, but later they have only losses.

For me it is not a problem, if users will be just monitoring EA and correlation between live execution and backtests - just add a system to a Watched at myfxbook :)

why is there a gmt input ?? with a pa action strategy this does not make sense to me.

also what determines its entries ? indicators. or more precisely how well does backtest match to forward results ivan ??

entering on open bar should match well, but as experience has shown data feeds differ between brokers.

also anybody backtesting this, note the wicked lot sizing = risk, very interesting.

by default it runs all pairs, but one can select them individually.

All pairs are trading at the different times: for example, EURAUD trading best of all at AUD and EUR sessions - own for pairs and most trend at this  time. Later just corrections and etc. After New York opening - USD time and most trend for USDX - not for croses and etc. GBP pairs trading best of all during London sessions. It have a sense.

I have analyzed a lot of systems and they have a same mistake: they are trading 24x7 all days and there are a lot of losses.

To test EA with the dynamical lotsize and without reinvest use:

- Start balance: 1 000 000
- Risk Level: 0.01

System fully based at volatility. Stop Losses are dynamic for each order and lotsize are based at a size of SL, so it's wrong to test fix lot. For example: 1 order can have 100 pips SL, another one - 20 pips SL.

 
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: reinerh on December 26, 2017, 07:35:09 PM
All pairs are trading at the different times: for example, EURAUD trading best of all at AUD and EUR sessions - own for pairs and most trend at this  time. Later just corrections and etc. After New York opening - USD time and most trend for USDX - not for croses and etc. GBP pairs trading best of all during London sessions. It have a sense.

I have analyzed a lot of systems and they have a same mistake: they are trading 24x7 all days and there are a lot of losses.

To test EA with the dynamical lotsize and without reinvest use:

- Start balance: 1 000 000
- Risk Level: 0.01

System fully based at volatility. Stop Losses are dynamic for each order and lotsize are based at a size of SL, so it's wrong to test fix lot. For example: 1 order can have 100 pips SL, another one - 20 pips SL.

 )))))))))

ah ok, you used best trading times = liquid markets. that makes sense for a pa based system. sometimes a breakout can occur outside the regular times, but not very often of course.

and yes your mm lot sizing is interesting = very well done. from what i see it requires about a 5k account or so at least to properly size the trades, looking at euraud which i did most of the bt.

Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: donbon2 on December 26, 2017, 09:31:30 PM
I looked at 2 products

1. had an average holding period of 5 days that showed decent profit
2. the other had average holding period or 13 hours and it just barely showed a profit

also the number of trades is way too low to form a real opinion .. needs 6 months of results to really tell to be honest.

Looking at the EUR Price Action one - it has done 506 trades over 12 years - no wonder PF is high and expectancy

you know SFE Price Action and Mom H1 are really same sort of EA -- this one is very fitted to every move by the looks of it  -- nice to have but not a must buy.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: donbon2 on December 26, 2017, 10:21:11 PM
the other thing that is weird on the test account

all the trades are 0.01 0.02 0.01 then you have 2 winning trades of 0.10 opened within a hour and basically that is all the profit in the account.

I think I just stick to the previous statement - it probably is ok - but if you own sfe or m h1 or the others - you don't need this.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: donbon2 on December 26, 2017, 10:28:00 PM
if I look at M H1 - shorter trading history but in EUR it has done 122 trades in 12 months - so it is trading alot more than this one.

PF 1.82 expectancy 18.4 pips for M1 EUR
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 27, 2017, 12:35:03 AM
if I look at M H1 - shorter trading history but in EUR it has done 122 trades in 12 months - so it is trading alot more than this one.

PF 1.82 expectancy 18.4 pips for M1 EUR

The number of trades - isn't important, because you have understand, that 80% of time market in flat. System can have more  trades, but their quality will be not lowest, then now. We can make 1000500 trades, but is it have sense? No. All filters in system just for reduce unprofitable trades and fake signals.

Momentum is it good, but we have a one year of stagnation +- some precents. Yeach year we have just some trend moves and Apogeum get them. We cannot get at profit in flat. We don't have a trades during a flat, when another system have a losses.

Of course, you can use another systems, but number of trades it isn't a quality of them...

P.S. just test all sets for all pairs for SFE and Momentum since 2000 and you will understand  everything...

Apogeum have a very high qualuty of entries!, because it isn't just impulse strategy
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: donbon2 on December 27, 2017, 02:23:41 AM
Ivan,

you are just proving my point but not really understanding why.

all 3 systems make just about the exact same amount of money per year -- why .... they trade alot more and you trade alot less... their stats will always be lower than yours for that reason.

the main problem you have is you have taken a very small sample and built your strategy on it - when it goes into the market for a longer time the stats will adjust and your system may not be able to handle the market in the same way the other 2 can - because those losing trades for them may become winners and your winning trades now become losing trades... as the market patterns change.

of course we can only tell over real world testing and probably 6 months of live account data.

My opinion is there is no reason to purchase this if you own the others - as they may ultimately be alot safer.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: simmylaso on December 27, 2017, 10:00:52 AM
Momentum and SFE had good results on live accounts in MQL5 signals. Let's see if Apogeum will have better results in 2018
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 27, 2017, 10:29:49 AM
Ivan,

you are just proving my point but not really understanding why.

all 3 systems make just about the exact same amount of money per year -- why .... they trade alot more and you trade alot less... their stats will always be lower than yours for that reason.

the main problem you have is you have taken a very small sample and built your strategy on it - when it goes into the market for a longer time the stats will adjust and your system may not be able to handle the market in the same way the other 2 can - because those losing trades for them may become winners and your winning trades now become losing trades... as the market patterns change.

of course we can only tell over real world testing and probably 6 months of live account data.

My opinion is there is no reason to purchase this if you own the others - as they may ultimately be alot safer.

Answer very easy: open your charts. Market at flat. We have a stable trend for each pair 2-4 times per year and another time - flat. MomentumEA are trading each move. Why? Better ask a question for their authors, but open their monitoring - only losses.

Number of trades cannot be guarantee of profit. Apogeum, first of all, have a very high quality entries and don't trade each market move. You can continue use Momentum, SFE, but you will not get a profit in future - they have a very low ProfitFactor, RR and expectency at longterm.

Momentum and SFE had good results on live accounts in MQL5 signals. Let's see if Apogeum will have better results in 2018

Good results have only SFE and only at June-July. Momentum have only losses for a year. Why? I will not answer hear - some users know it... Just find PA Trade...
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: donbon2 on December 27, 2017, 10:41:22 AM
I'll say it one more time -- of course your numbers are better - you are trading only 20-30% of the number of trades they are taking -- they can never match your numbers.

The question is can your limited strategy survive market changes ... they provide more diversity of trades than you do - so ultimately yours has more risk.

Despite all that the target yearly profit is almost the same .. so lets see in 6 months and then 12 months who wins.

Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 27, 2017, 10:47:11 AM
I'll say it one more time -- of course your numbers are better - you are trading only 20-30% of the number of trades they are taking -- they can never match your numbers.

The question is can your limited strategy survive market changes ... they provide more diversity of trades than you do - so ultimately yours has more risk.

Despite all that the target yearly profit is almost the same .. so lets see in 6 months and then 12 months who wins.

Strategy isn't a limited. SFE and Momentum open trades any impulse - differents in control of orders (fixation of profit, sl and etc). Apogeum have an aditional filters, because impulse strategy cannot be stable in longterm. Impulse as a main signal? It's dangerous. I use impulse as a one of signals.

You can compare results for last 2 month: Apogeum have a small profit - 2.67% at monitoring. SFE and Momentum losses - it's an answer about number of trades. 
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: simmylaso on December 27, 2017, 11:30:19 AM
In your signals I saw Apogeum conservative had 32% growth in last 2 months, Apogeum price action 2,63%. Apogeum conservative looks more aggressive despite its name
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on December 27, 2017, 11:33:07 AM
In your signals I saw Apogeum conservative had 32% growth in last 2 months, Apogeum price action 2,63%. Apogeum conservative looks more aggressive despite its name

In signals, where 32%:

1. x3 risks;
2. I have maken tests with the unstandart stop_levels (all EA's at mql5 are checked by all parameteres) and i had a mistake with it, so size of SL and TP was wrong. So this account was only for tests =)
Title: Re: Ivan Pochta EA's (via MQL5.com)
Post by: canis on January 05, 2018, 11:28:39 AM
P.S. If you think Apogeum is expensive, you can try Apogeum Conservative. Now is a Special Christmas Price - $290. It contains a 3 pairs (soon will be 4)

The minimum deposit for this Apogeum Conservative EA?
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on January 11, 2018, 09:14:46 AM
Hi, sorry for long respond!

I have a perfect news: now is available new version Apogeum Price Action 3.0

(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F11%2F09-01-201806-32-30.md.jpg&hash=ab426a862d776afd66f92e268005f533) (http://fxpics.ru/image/ZbCpT)

As you can see, a new version have a better perfomance.

Dukascopy 99% backtests since 2005:

Apogeum Price Action 3.0 Backtests (Dukascopy Variable Spread 99,9% quality) (https://yadi.sk/d/SYHmtDTU3RMdAE)

I have one more good news!

Apogeum Conservative will be a separate system with the different strategy! It will contain 9 pairs for each TF! Here are more info:

https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/23648  (https://www.mql5.com/en/market/product/23648)
Title: Re: Ivan Pochta EA's (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on January 11, 2018, 09:15:52 AM
P.S. If you think Apogeum is expensive, you can try Apogeum Conservative. Now is a Special Christmas Price - $290. It contains a 3 pairs (soon will be 4)

The minimum deposit for this Apogeum Conservative EA?

Enought to start with $500 balance!
Title: Re: Ivan Pochta EA's (via MQL5.com)
Post by: bearnakedbull on January 11, 2018, 02:21:18 PM
P.S. If you think Apogeum is expensive, you can try Apogeum Conservative. Now is a Special Christmas Price - $290. It contains a 3 pairs (soon will be 4)

The minimum deposit for this Apogeum Conservative EA?

Enought to start with $500 balance!
What pairs? Your master account on myfxbook.com is trading different pairs than you reveal on MQL5.com.
Title: Re: Ivan Pochta EA's (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on January 11, 2018, 05:58:57 PM
P.S. If you think Apogeum is expensive, you can try Apogeum Conservative. Now is a Special Christmas Price - $290. It contains a 3 pairs (soon will be 4)

The minimum deposit for this Apogeum Conservative EA?

Enought to start with $500 balance!
What pairs? Your master account on myfxbook.com is trading different pairs than you reveal on MQL5.com.

After update (few days) Apogeum Conservative will contain 9 pairs:

EURAUD, EURCAD, EURJPY, EURUSD, GBPUSD, GBPJPY, USDCHF, USDJPY, XAUUSD

Apogeum Price Action and Apogeum Conservative will be a different systems with the different strategy.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on January 11, 2018, 07:58:57 PM
Apogeum Conservative 2.0

Dear friends, I want to Present you Apogeum Conservative 2.0. Now Apogeum Conservative 2.0 and Apogeum Price Action are separate systems with the different strategy! As you can see, a new version not limited by number of pairs and Time Frames - all pairs are available!

Now is a Special Price for Apogeum Conservative 2.0 - $390!

(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F11%2F11-01-201821-49-05.md.jpg&hash=463a80a939297f44be186dcb1dd9dc2d) (http://fxpics.ru/image/ZbnKc)

Here are all backtests:

Apogeum Conservative 2.0 Backtests (Dukascopy Variable Spread 99,9% quality) (https://c.mql5.com/31/223/Apogeum_Conservative_2.0_Backtests_mDukascopy_Variable_Spread_99y9n_qualityu.zip)

Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: Byte on January 11, 2018, 10:22:48 PM
I am probably reading something wrong, but maybe you can help me. Does that mean that the conservative version has a higher ration of annual gains to DD than the Price Action version? So if I increased the risk of the conservative version, I would get a higher return? Where is the logic error in my thought?  :-[
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: reinerh on January 11, 2018, 11:55:40 PM
Apogeum Conservative 2.0

Dear friends, I want to Present you Apogeum Conservative 2.0. Now Apogeum Conservative 2.0 and Apogeum Price Action are separate systems with the different strategy! As you can see, a new version not limited by number of pairs and Time Frames - all pairs are available!

Now is a Special Price for Apogeum Conservative 2.0 - $390!

(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F11%2F11-01-201821-49-05.md.jpg&hash=463a80a939297f44be186dcb1dd9dc2d) (http://fxpics.ru/image/ZbnKc)

Here are all backtests:

Apogeum Conservative 2.0 Backtests (Dukascopy Variable Spread 99,9% quality) (https://c.mql5.com/31/223/Apogeum_Conservative_2.0_Backtests_mDukascopy_Variable_Spread_99y9n_qualityu.zip)

why do you run such high balances on your backtest ??

they are meanigless since they hide the dd.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on January 12, 2018, 12:39:59 AM
Apogeum Conservative 2.0

Dear friends, I want to Present you Apogeum Conservative 2.0. Now Apogeum Conservative 2.0 and Apogeum Price Action are separate systems with the different strategy! As you can see, a new version not limited by number of pairs and Time Frames - all pairs are available!

Now is a Special Price for Apogeum Conservative 2.0 - $390!

(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F11%2F11-01-201821-49-05.md.jpg&hash=463a80a939297f44be186dcb1dd9dc2d) (http://fxpics.ru/image/ZbnKc)

Here are all backtests:

Apogeum Conservative 2.0 Backtests (Dukascopy Variable Spread 99,9% quality) (https://c.mql5.com/31/223/Apogeum_Conservative_2.0_Backtests_mDukascopy_Variable_Spread_99y9n_qualityu.zip)

why do you run such high balances on your backtest ??

they are meanigless since they hide the dd.

System have a Dynamic lotsize according SL and Balance. If I run standart Risk Level 1 with the Balance 10 000, lotsize will be multiplied (profit reinvest) and at the end we will have x2 - x3 lotsize and it's impossible to make a correct portfolio, so I am using Risk Level 0.01 and balance 1 000 000 - it's similar lot size, profit/loss to Risk Level 1 and Balance 10 000, but without multiplier!

So you can check. Download EA to your terminal and make tests with the Risk Level 1 and Balance 10 000 and then 0.01 and Balance 1 000 000 - you will have a similar lotsize ;)
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on January 12, 2018, 12:47:17 AM
I am probably reading something wrong, but maybe you can help me. Does that mean that the conservative version has a higher ration of annual gains to DD than the Price Action version? So if I increased the risk of the conservative version, I would get a higher return? Where is the logic error in my thought?  :-[

No, now Conservative - is a old strategy of Apogeum Price Action. Return is a similar, but yearly profit of Apogeum Price Action - higher.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: atomico on January 12, 2018, 02:01:02 PM
hi,

you have a specific SET FILE for single currency pair?
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on January 12, 2018, 03:44:21 PM
hi,

you have a specific SET FILE for single currency pair?

All sets are inside system. You have just install EA and it will work without any sets!
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: atomico on January 18, 2018, 09:10:25 AM
excuse me,

but i don't see some link to myfxbook account that show LIVE performance of your EA...

you have some REAL account? can you post the web link?

i am interest also to your SCALPER Evo Night... LIVE account for this EA?
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: bearnakedbull on January 18, 2018, 02:12:20 PM
I  believe this is Ivan's new account.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/apogeum-conservative/2313608
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on January 20, 2018, 03:21:36 PM
Here are MyFXBook:


Apogeum Price Action: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/apogeum-price-action/2384571

Apogeum Conservative: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/apogeum-conservative/2313608
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: jwatts7701 on January 24, 2018, 05:14:09 PM
looks like i am getting quite different trades than you. I have apogeum price action, and today recieved 4 xauusd and 2 gbpusd trades. while your myfxbook recieved none? Are these discrepancies pretty normal? Or do most people usually get the same trades?
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: atomico on January 31, 2018, 10:07:00 AM
good morning,

i am follow some myfxbook account of Ivan and i am interest to the EVONIGHT... but (if i can ask) why only 20$ for starting deposit? how it's possible? ICM need 200$ minimum capital...

best regard
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: wroeckert on March 03, 2018, 10:01:47 AM
Hehehe, EA needs only 20$ for Start, Low DD. Nothing to do with Broker..
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: pipsbuster on April 01, 2018, 11:28:24 AM
$750? I wouldn't run it for free: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/apogeum-price-action/2384571
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: Tyler on April 01, 2018, 12:54:03 PM
there isn't any price action EA working at the monent
$750? I wouldn't run it for free: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PeregrimEA/apogeum-price-action/2384571
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: pipsbuster on April 01, 2018, 01:19:26 PM
there isn't any price action EA working at the moment

A moment lasting since last year's August.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on April 01, 2018, 03:26:01 PM
Apogeum Price Action have been designed for long-trends market, but a current market conditions unprofitable for trend systems. We have a stagnation over 6 month, so system have more losses, then profit trades.

I have maken a lot of changes and want to present you Apogeum Price Action 4.0:


(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F04%2F01%2F30-03-2018-23-59-00.md.jpg&hash=9f833624970401c598c181dc692c2081) (http://fxpics.ru/image/aV734)

I hope, system will be more stable at future. All backtests at addons. Thiw week will be started new monitoring for a system.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: pipsbuster on April 01, 2018, 03:28:31 PM
Sadly, backtests (however marvelous) never made me rich.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on April 01, 2018, 04:11:20 PM
Sadly, backtests (however marvelous) never made me rich.

Yes, but without backtests we cannot do anything.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: pipsbuster on April 01, 2018, 04:56:38 PM
Sadly, backtests (however marvelous) never made me rich.

Yes, but without backtests we cannot do anything.
With or without them - it's all curve fitting. There's just no way to predict a mathematically random process like Forex. EA vendors know it very well - that's why they sell instead of trading.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on April 01, 2018, 05:30:20 PM
Sadly, backtests (however marvelous) never made me rich.

Yes, but without backtests we cannot do anything.
With or without them - it's all curve fitting. There's just no way to predict a mathematically random process like Forex. EA vendors know it very well - that's why they sell instead of trading.

Patterns are often repeated. The essence of EA's is to track repetitive patterns and adapt them to market realities. I do not believe that a system working 10-15 years in a market chaos will suddenly stop working.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: pipsbuster on April 01, 2018, 06:08:43 PM
Sadly, backtests (however marvelous) never made me rich.

Yes, but without backtests we cannot do anything.
With or without them - it's all curve fitting. There's just no way to predict a mathematically random process like Forex. EA vendors know it very well - that's why they sell instead of trading.

Patterns are often repeated. The essence of EA's is to track repetitive patterns and adapt them to market realities. I do not believe that a system working 10-15 years in a market chaos will suddenly stop working.

Never seen an EA lasting live for so long.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on April 01, 2018, 06:11:49 PM
Sadly, backtests (however marvelous) never made me rich.

Yes, but without backtests we cannot do anything.
With or without them - it's all curve fitting. There's just no way to predict a mathematically random process like Forex. EA vendors know it very well - that's why they sell instead of trading.

Patterns are often repeated. The essence of EA's is to track repetitive patterns and adapt them to market realities. I do not believe that a system working 10-15 years in a market chaos will suddenly stop working.

Never seen an EA lasting live for so long.

I mean backtests. Really only lasr few years vendors have enought instuments to create quality EA: powerfull servers for optimizations, history data for longterm, etc.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: pipsbuster on April 01, 2018, 06:28:01 PM
How long did your longest-living EA last live?
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on April 01, 2018, 06:52:29 PM
How long did your longest-living EA last live?

Sorry, what do you mean?  Forward?
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: reinerh on April 01, 2018, 07:59:11 PM
Sadly, backtests (however marvelous) never made me rich.

Yes, but without backtests we cannot do anything.
With or without them - it's all curve fitting. There's just no way to predict a mathematically random process like Forex. EA vendors know it very well - that's why they sell instead of trading.

Patterns are often repeated. The essence of EA's is to track repetitive patterns and adapt them to market realities. I do not believe that a system working 10-15 years in a market chaos will suddenly stop working.

Never seen an EA lasting live for so long.

I mean backtests. Really only lasr few years vendors have enought instuments to create quality EA: powerfull servers for optimizations, history data for longterm, etc.

that is true, the computing power has improved by a huge factor recently leading to good ea strategies coming online.

i see more and more good ea all over.

i think your apogeum will have its day in the sun eventually, but sure not so far forward to justify the high price. just to make back the cost of the ea could take years for most people, if ever. thats by looking at current forward accounts i can find.

so it will still take time to get confidence in your offerings from interested people.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: pipsbuster on April 01, 2018, 08:11:35 PM
How long did your longest-living EA last live?

Sorry, what do you mean?  Forward?
Yes, I mean a live (real-money) forward test.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on April 01, 2018, 09:58:00 PM
How long did your longest-living EA last live?

Sorry, what do you mean?  Forward?
Yes, I mean a live (real-money) forward test.

I had some accounts:

- First (pre-published) was closed with the +16% of profit at October / November;
- Second, Darwinex, have been moved to Apogeum Conservative;
- Third accound was for version 3.0 and this week it will replaced by new for Apogeum Price Action 4.0, because system have been changed fully.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: jwatts7701 on April 01, 2018, 11:35:46 PM
pips buster you should change your name to ball baster man lol. If you don'think any EA has a fighting chance, you should mozy on over to the manual trading forum lol. It will be easy on yourself and the vendors.

Lets cut these guys some slack. Of course there are no gaurnatees. and of course its daym hard (we all acknowledge that). But we are all trying here to find an edge (and thats all that is needed really - we don't need a holy grail to make money).

I agree with reinerh ivan that your price is a bit steep for something so new, until it has some more live record. Any chance you would reduce it for a while so we can test live? Then increase it once we have some live performance under belt on teh new version? Im sure many of us here woudl be interested if you did offer something like this. Maybe even something to Donna members only?
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: diyforexskills on April 02, 2018, 07:50:55 AM
This bonus offer seems to be the same in mlq market.
I also want to buy. Any more special bonus to member here ?
@ivanvp: I am considering to buy the EA. I will put the rocket account to rest and try it with something more sustainable  :-[
I was just wondering if there is any Christmas or other special offers that are valid right now.

Hi, now is available Christmas Promo: Buy Apogeum Price Action and get one of my scalpers for free! After purchasing just write me to PMand I will make a copy of a free EA :)

What's the difference between Apogeum price action and Apogeum conservative?

Hi, Apogeum Price Action - it's a full version. Now it's supporting 8 pairs, but some later - 9 (USDCHF is ready and I will add it at version 2.3). Apogeum Conservative have only 3 pairs.

Hi, unfortunately I cannot propose something more now, because I cannot separate market buyers from another. At market a lot of users, which have bought all my EA's without discounts and promos, so if I propose more bonuses it will be not honest for them.

Maximum I can give 2 EA's as a bonuses. Any you choise + PeregrimEA.

The continuing discussion caused me to look at the start of this thread and hence the issue of pricing of EAs came up as per quote above. Back in 2011 I could buy the MDP EA for $67 and I made $60K profit with it in 3 months. These days EAs seem to sell for $500 and up and I am not sure why the prices are so high. But that is a decision for each vendor.

What I really wanted to float is a pricing model (not just for Apogeum but all EAs) whereby one could rent an EA for 12 months (so as to be able to properly test it) for say 50% of the full price; and then at the end of that period, be able to buy the lifetime licence for the remaining 50% of the price. Or decide that the EA is not suitable and be thankful that he has had the opportunity to test it for a full year at only half price.
Or if rented on a monthly, basis have the payment for that count towards a final purchase at some time in the future.

That would seem a fair outcome for both vendor and client. And one that existing clients should not have a problem with.

(30 day money back guarantees are useless in my view since that is far too short a period for proper testing; and is also an unwanted  cost to the vendor who still has to pay the payment processor for a transaction fee.)
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: pipsbuster on April 02, 2018, 10:42:11 AM
Vendors know it very well their bots won't last - that's why they demand full payment.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on April 02, 2018, 11:48:23 AM
Vendors know it very well their bots won't last - that's why they demand full payment.

Look at Mql5, where a lot of scalpers without monitorings are costing over 1000. Some of them 2000 and people buy it. System which never will be profitable at Live, but vendors showing Open Prices tests and people believe. When another systems cost 2000, very difficult to be at top, so the prices for EAs now are to high.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: pipsbuster on April 02, 2018, 11:54:01 AM
Vendors know it very well their bots won't last - that's why they demand full payment.

Look at Mql5, where a lot of scalpers without monitorings are costing over 1000. Some of them 2000 and people buy it. System which never will be profitable at Live, but vendors showing Open Prices tests and people believe. When another systems cost 2000, very difficult to be at top, so the prices for EAs now are to high.

Unless and until I see a compelling live track record over at least a year on a sizable deposit, I won't purchase any EA, including yours. Those who bought from you three months ago are now out of as much as $750 and down on their trading account balances.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on April 02, 2018, 12:26:48 PM
This bonus offer seems to be the same in mlq market.
I also want to buy. Any more special bonus to member here ?
@ivanvp: I am considering to buy the EA. I will put the rocket account to rest and try it with something more sustainable  :-[
I was just wondering if there is any Christmas or other special offers that are valid right now.

Hi, now is available Christmas Promo: Buy Apogeum Price Action and get one of my scalpers for free! After purchasing just write me to PMand I will make a copy of a free EA :)

What's the difference between Apogeum price action and Apogeum conservative?

Hi, Apogeum Price Action - it's a full version. Now it's supporting 8 pairs, but some later - 9 (USDCHF is ready and I will add it at version 2.3). Apogeum Conservative have only 3 pairs.

Hi, unfortunately I cannot propose something more now, because I cannot separate market buyers from another. At market a lot of users, which have bought all my EA's without discounts and promos, so if I propose more bonuses it will be not honest for them.

Maximum I can give 2 EA's as a bonuses. Any you choise + PeregrimEA.

The continuing discussion caused me to look at the start of this thread and hence the issue of pricing of EAs came up as per quote above. Back in 2011 I could buy the MDP EA for $67 and I made $60K profit with it in 3 months. These days EAs seem to sell for $500 and up and I am not sure why the prices are so high. But that is a decision for each vendor.

What I really wanted to float is a pricing model (not just for Apogeum but all EAs) whereby one could rent an EA for 12 months (so as to be able to properly test it) for say 50% of the full price; and then at the end of that period, be able to buy the lifetime licence for the remaining 50% of the price. Or decide that the EA is not suitable and be thankful that he has had the opportunity to test it for a full year at only half price.
Or if rented on a monthly, basis have the payment for that count towards a final purchase at some time in the future.

That would seem a fair outcome for both vendor and client. And one that existing clients should not have a problem with.

(30 day money back guarantees are useless in my view since that is far too short a period for proper testing; and is also an unwanted  cost to the vendor who still has to pay the payment processor for a transaction fee.)

According your advise, I have maken a lowest renting price.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: pipsbuster on April 02, 2018, 01:14:46 PM
This bonus offer seems to be the same in mlq market.
I also want to buy. Any more special bonus to member here ?
@ivanvp: I am considering to buy the EA. I will put the rocket account to rest and try it with something more sustainable  :-[
I was just wondering if there is any Christmas or other special offers that are valid right now.

Hi, now is available Christmas Promo: Buy Apogeum Price Action and get one of my scalpers for free! After purchasing just write me to PMand I will make a copy of a free EA :)

What's the difference between Apogeum price action and Apogeum conservative?

Hi, Apogeum Price Action - it's a full version. Now it's supporting 8 pairs, but some later - 9 (USDCHF is ready and I will add it at version 2.3). Apogeum Conservative have only 3 pairs.

Hi, unfortunately I cannot propose something more now, because I cannot separate market buyers from another. At market a lot of users, which have bought all my EA's without discounts and promos, so if I propose more bonuses it will be not honest for them.

Maximum I can give 2 EA's as a bonuses. Any you choise + PeregrimEA.

The continuing discussion caused me to look at the start of this thread and hence the issue of pricing of EAs came up as per quote above. Back in 2011 I could buy the MDP EA for $67 and I made $60K profit with it in 3 months. These days EAs seem to sell for $500 and up and I am not sure why the prices are so high. But that is a decision for each vendor.

What I really wanted to float is a pricing model (not just for Apogeum but all EAs) whereby one could rent an EA for 12 months (so as to be able to properly test it) for say 50% of the full price; and then at the end of that period, be able to buy the lifetime licence for the remaining 50% of the price. Or decide that the EA is not suitable and be thankful that he has had the opportunity to test it for a full year at only half price.
Or if rented on a monthly, basis have the payment for that count towards a final purchase at some time in the future.

That would seem a fair outcome for both vendor and client. And one that existing clients should not have a problem with.

(30 day money back guarantees are useless in my view since that is far too short a period for proper testing; and is also an unwanted  cost to the vendor who still has to pay the payment processor for a transaction fee.)

According your advise, I have maken a lowest renting price.

I think he means you charge too much for non-performing EAs.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: reinerh on April 02, 2018, 02:17:53 PM
Vendors know it very well their bots won't last - that's why they demand full payment.

Look at Mql5, where a lot of scalpers without monitorings are costing over 1000. Some of them 2000 and people buy it. System which never will be profitable at Live, but vendors showing Open Prices tests and people believe. When another systems cost 2000, very difficult to be at top, so the prices for EAs now are to high.

ivan,

only a complete fool would buy an ea for $2000 with no forward assurances, i mean somebody who has not a single brain cell in his head.

there is plenty of decent or very good strategies to be found for less then $200 which are profitable.

also you need to put yourself in the shoes of the buyer, how long does it take to recoup the investment ??

and or if there is no profit, then it was a complete waste of investment.

all that being said i think your longer term ea are quite good no question.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: HFT Group on April 02, 2018, 02:38:17 PM
Apogeum Conservative 2.0

Dear friends, I want to Present you Apogeum Conservative 2.0. Now Apogeum Conservative 2.0 and Apogeum Price Action are separate systems with the different strategy! As you can see, a new version not limited by number of pairs and Time Frames - all pairs are available!

Now is a Special Price for Apogeum Conservative 2.0 - $390!

(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F11%2F11-01-201821-49-05.md.jpg&hash=463a80a939297f44be186dcb1dd9dc2d) (http://fxpics.ru/image/ZbnKc)

Here are all backtests:

Apogeum Conservative 2.0 Backtests (Dukascopy Variable Spread 99,9% quality) (https://c.mql5.com/31/223/Apogeum_Conservative_2.0_Backtests_mDukascopy_Variable_Spread_99y9n_qualityu.zip)

Guess this isn't marketing either right?
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on April 02, 2018, 03:02:56 PM
Apogeum Conservative 2.0

Dear friends, I want to Present you Apogeum Conservative 2.0. Now Apogeum Conservative 2.0 and Apogeum Price Action are separate systems with the different strategy! As you can see, a new version not limited by number of pairs and Time Frames - all pairs are available!

Now is a Special Price for Apogeum Conservative 2.0 - $390!

(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffxpics.ru%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F11%2F11-01-201821-49-05.md.jpg&hash=463a80a939297f44be186dcb1dd9dc2d) (http://fxpics.ru/image/ZbnKc)

Here are all backtests:

Apogeum Conservative 2.0 Backtests (Dukascopy Variable Spread 99,9% quality) (https://c.mql5.com/31/223/Apogeum_Conservative_2.0_Backtests_mDukascopy_Variable_Spread_99y9n_qualityu.zip)

Guess this isn't marketing either right?

Are you moderatore? Do you mean a promo? It was 3 month ago and moderators haven't seen a problems.

Or it's marketing to public monitoring, backtests, portfolios?
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: CanadianPsycho on April 02, 2018, 03:38:43 PM
I think we've looked at Ivan's activity, engaged with him and recognized him as a vendor here. So far as I can tell, we're generally comfortable with his posting habits so far.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: HFT Group on April 03, 2018, 12:41:30 AM
I think we've looked at Ivan's activity, engaged with him and recognized him as a vendor here. So far as I can tell, we're generally comfortable with his posting habits so far.

In that case there should be a 'Vendor' status attached to his profile. How do forum members distinguish a Junior member that has permission to market and promote his product from any other newbie member that attains Junior status then decides to start marketing?
How do forum members not familiar with this privledged status as a Junior member identify his posts as those with a vested interest in the product being discussed in the thread as opposed to an unbiased contribution?
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: CanadianPsycho on April 03, 2018, 12:52:08 AM
I think we've looked at Ivan's activity, engaged with him and recognized him as a vendor here. So far as I can tell, we're generally comfortable with his posting habits so far.

In that case there should be a 'Vendor' status attached to his profile.

Alright, done.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on June 18, 2018, 02:30:15 PM
Very important news for Apogeum Price Action users. As we know, last half year was very bad for Trend Systems, but Apogeum have fully covered a Drawdown and make a profit.

(https://donnaforex.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd.radikal.ru%2Fd28%2F1806%2Fa0%2F3594d82cc460.jpg&hash=d04a6cde64e9c8887a0ecbd275174636) (http://radikal.ru)

Here are user's results since December:

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I don't make any changes to the system, because I am afraiding of overfiting. But results not so bad, as lot of another trend systems and it's a very promising! =)
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on July 16, 2018, 01:25:33 PM
After analyze of Apogeum Price Action results since January, I came to the conclusion that the use of the system is advisable with the Major Pairs: EURUSD, GBPUSD, USDCHF, USDJPJ:

(https://a.radikal.ru/a26/1807/f8/1a2e032bfc5b.jpg) (https://radikal.ru)

As you can see, with the Major currency pairs we have a small size of DD and stable perfomance.

The use of Сross Pairs and Gold is dangerous, because they are more sensitive to market noise:

(https://c.radikal.ru/c06/1807/bd/d1238b621ccb.jpg) (https://radikal.ru)


So I can recommend to switch of Croo pairs and GOLD for all users of Apogeum Price Action.
Title: Re: Apogeum Price Action (via MQL5.com)
Post by: ivanvp on October 20, 2018, 10:55:19 PM
Dear owners of EA, traders and investors, I want to present you Apogeum Price Action v.4.1. As you know, over last 12 month a market conditions were bad for all trading systems. Scalpers, Price Action and even Martingale had a very poor results. All over this period I have been working under creating and updating all my systems, especially, Apogeum Price Action.

Apogeum Price Action v.4.1 don't have changes at strategy and not fully reoptimized. It have 2 main changes:


(https://d.radikal.ru/d20/1810/c7/66cd87a85e82.jpg) (https://radikal.ru)

If exclude reoptimized pairs and XAUUSD (I am continuing to monitoring it), results become much more better:

(https://c.radikal.ru/c42/1810/1d/703e7b530b55.jpg) (https://radikal.ru)

I hope, soon will be ended this one period of stagnation (it's a longest period of stagnation in Forex history) and market become more volatility.


> > > > Apogeum Price Action v.4.1 Portfolio < < < <

Here are Portfolio report for Apogeum Price Action v.4.1. Latest backtests are available in addons.

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