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Offline castlebrook

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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2017, 10:37:01 AM »
My experience with Alpari PAMM Accounts has been great, some accounts are over 3 years old and have consistent returns with low DD
Check for example the 2 accounts linked in my signature, I am currently investing in both of them  :)

lucky pound is a grid right?

From what I can see in its myfxbook profile it indeed is a grid system
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/autotrade/lucky-pound/1045415

Something I really like about the system is that by looking at its history you can notice SLs are controlled and respected, which is a plus to me in any trading system

Do you have Ninja Trainer's contact details? Not Alpari.
Thanks.


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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2017, 06:12:32 PM »
a new FX trade system stats analysis tool that is the best I've seen yet
FXStat


http://www.fxstat.com/performances/view/Outside-the-Box---Master-Account-84720
It has some interesting statistics... like "Scalability" and "Discipline"

I trade a Master Account for 5 trade copying providers.
And 2 PAMM Funds, one at Mt Cook (superior) and Hotforex (satisfactory)
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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2017, 12:53:53 PM »
What are peoples experience with PAMMs?

I invested in one a while ago that blew up. Just wondering if anyone has had really good experience with any specifics?

I would recommend to use a broker that supports setting up your own hard stop, so no matter what happens with money manager you get stopped at your precise level.

For that reason I invested in Mt. Cook broker, they offer a hybrid PAM where you can set your max. loss and increase or decrease risk. The PAM I'm in is managed by JoePro, so far it has been great. Low risk as all trades are protected with hedges and it doesn't matter what direction market goes as long as it moves we make profit. Here is a link if anybody want's to know more: http://www.4xcp.com

Here is the myfxbook of the PAM: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/clearstonecap/clear-stone-capital-ltd-mtcook/2251842
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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2017, 09:41:25 PM »
What are peoples experience with PAMMs?

I invested in one a while ago that blew up. Just wondering if anyone has had really good experience with any specifics?

I would recommend to use a broker that supports setting up your own hard stop, so no matter what happens with money manager you get stopped at your precise level.

For that reason I invested in Mt. Cook broker, they offer a hybrid PAM where you can set your max. loss and increase or decrease risk. The PAM I'm in is managed by JoePro, so far it has been great. Low risk as all trades are protected with hedges and it doesn't matter what direction market goes as long as it moves we make profit. Here is a link if anybody want's to know more: http://www.4xcp.com

Here is the myfxbook of the PAM: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/clearstonecap/clear-stone-capital-ltd-mtcook/2251842

i took a peak at them today as well, pretty slick set up, ultimately adjustable for both sides.

will look into this more next year.

sure see no systems to click on at mt cook, which button do i need to push ??
« Last Edit: November 14, 2017, 09:45:35 PM by reinerh »

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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2017, 10:19:14 PM »
I added a shortcut here: http://www.4xcp.com/mtcookpam

But if you go to their webpage than you click on managed accounts and you will see 2 options. They have a hybrid PAM with Mt. Cook and a hybrid MAM with Tier1fx.

Tier1fx has also option to set up a hard stop independently, but they don't offer risk multiplier like Mt. Cook, so you can invest only with 1x risk. Which should be fine for big investors. Also Tier1fx offers custodian accounts at Dukascopy bank if you have over 50k. This is good because you get protected and you are not in a pooled segregated account of broker. And they offer bigger insurance than EU. EU offers 20k EUR while Swiss have 250k CHF. I know this, because Sam or TitanTrader has MAM there and I looked into it before.

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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2017, 01:05:53 AM »
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What are peoples experience with PAMMs?

I invested in one a while ago that blew up. Just wondering if anyone has had really good experience with any specifics?

I would recommend to use a broker that supports setting up your own hard stop, so no matter what happens with money manager you get stopped at your precise level.

For that reason I invested in Mt. Cook broker, they offer a hybrid PAM where you can set your max. loss and increase or decrease risk. The PAM I'm in is managed by JoePro, so far it has been great. Low risk as all trades are protected with hedges and it doesn't matter what direction market goes as long as it moves we make profit. Here is a link if anybody want's to know more: http://www.4xcp.com

Here is the myfxbook of the PAM: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/clearstonecap/clear-stone-capital-ltd-mtcook/2251842
« Last Edit: November 15, 2017, 01:11:21 AM by e1vis »

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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2017, 01:12:27 AM »
Yes, than you can try Tier1fx. EU regulated... Also hybrid and you can set your own hard stop.

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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2017, 08:47:27 AM »
What are peoples experience with PAMMs?

I invested in one a while ago that blew up. Just wondering if anyone has had really good experience with any specifics?

I would recommend to use a broker that supports setting up your own hard stop, so no matter what happens with money manager you get stopped at your precise level.

For that reason I invested in Mt. Cook broker, they offer a hybrid PAM where you can set your max. loss and increase or decrease risk. The PAM I'm in is managed by JoePro, so far it has been great. Low risk as all trades are protected with hedges and it doesn't matter what direction market goes as long as it moves we make profit. Here is a link if anybody want's to know more: http://www.4xcp.com

Here is the myfxbook of the PAM: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/clearstonecap/clear-stone-capital-ltd-mtcook/2251842

i took a peak at them today as well, pretty slick set up, ultimately adjustable for both sides.

will look into this more next year.

sure see no systems to click on at mt cook, which button do i need to push ??

Hey Reinerh

I trade a PAMM with Mt Cook and they are top of the heap.  Really unique Hybrid Software that gives both manager and subscriber the control and visibility they need.  This  Hybrid PAMM software for money managers, allows the customer to control risk profile, IB profile, and Performance Fee type.  individually customise your whole investment in each investor's agreement, and their technology is cutting edge.  The developers and partners were traders themselves.  decided to make a boutique brokerage with really cool offerings for peeps like us.
This is the Hybrid Pamm software at Mt Cook Financial:
http://mtcookfinancial.com/pam-hybrid-2-0-presentation/ (password: hybridvid)

Let me know if you still have questions.
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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2017, 08:57:10 AM »
What are peoples experience with PAMMs?

I invested in one a while ago that blew up. Just wondering if anyone has had really good experience with any specifics?

I would recommend to use a broker that supports setting up your own hard stop, so no matter what happens with money manager you get stopped at your precise level.

For that reason I invested in Mt. Cook broker, they offer a hybrid PAM where you can set your max. loss and increase or decrease risk. The PAM I'm in is managed by JoePro, so far it has been great. Low risk as all trades are protected with hedges and it doesn't matter what direction market goes as long as it moves we make profit. Here is a link if anybody want's to know more: http://www.4xcp.com

Here is the myfxbook of the PAM: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/clearstonecap/clear-stone-capital-ltd-mtcook/2251842

i took a peak at them today as well, pretty slick set up, ultimately adjustable for both sides.

will look into this more next year.

sure see no systems to click on at mt cook, which button do i need to push ??

Their hybrid PAMM software also allows investor to use GBP, AUD, EUR, and USD.
Soon they will offer JPY and HKD.
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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2017, 09:06:42 AM »
Yup Mt. Cook is the best in that.

There are some other brokers that offer also good solutions, I mentioned one already, but so far I would say Mt. Cook has cutting edge technology for PAM.

The only problem could be that they are not located in more "secure" country like EU, UK, Australia where regulation is a little better. Although they are also under ASIC, but that franchise office does not offer hybrid PAM only regular MAM, which can be found at most brokers.

But the deposits are held at Australian bank or UK, so this is also good.

You can find more about their regulation here: http://mtcookfinancial.com/about/regulation


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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2017, 10:49:10 AM »
Ha, it looks like after all they do offer hybrid PAM under ASIC regulation. Great to know :)

Someone on forum confirmed this, it wasn't known to me before. In August they didn't have this option, so this is good news.

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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2017, 02:06:34 AM »
Yes the Hybrid PAM on the ASIC license will be nice. They said it was from popular demand. It sounds like some people may need a financial license though to run PAMs on ASIC. And probably everywhere there is ASIC (all australia brokers). I know in the EU this is 100% certain starting in January.

Elvis, I do most of my slush fund trading on their offshore "DMA" feed (not their ASIC stuff). It is offshore, but the reason why I am more comfortable with them vs other offshore brokers like Hot Forex and FX Pig and all the others with offshore licese for example, is for me personally 2 reasons.

1. They are a long standing "trusted broker" on Forex Signals. I seen them there for over 2 years now. This is important to me, because they don't put brokers on there haphazardly. As we have seen with reinerh, they err on the side of OVERLY cautious (may be to quick to judge even). It was a good due diligence vouche for me though.

And 2 (probably most important). I want the RAW Divisa UK liquidity feed. MtCOOK is essentially just routing all my orders directly to Divisa UK for me (and Divisa UK won't accept me direct). One of my EAs works ONLY on this liquidity feed, but on NO OTHERS (and I get a discounted rate there). They gave me two others to compare it to so I have some good options there for EAs.

But yes the ASIC license will be nice. For some people it is more important than my reasons and I understand that. I am staying on my Divisa feed though as it is an ATM machine for my most sensitive EA.

I am actually making some changes to my brokers lately. I am closing down my UK accounts, and moving them to Mt.Cook and To Europacific bank where i just opened a bank + FX account all in one. I am equally as excited with them.

I am hoping to simply my life a little bit. Less brokers and a bank + brokerage combination. I don't need much more. Only profits now ;)

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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2017, 02:07:58 AM »
I added a shortcut here: http://www.4xcp.com/mtcookpam

But if you go to their webpage than you click on managed accounts and you will see 2 options. They have a hybrid PAM with Mt. Cook and a hybrid MAM with Tier1fx.

Tier1fx has also option to set up a hard stop independently, but they don't offer risk multiplier like Mt. Cook, so you can invest only with 1x risk. Which should be fine for big investors. Also Tier1fx offers custodian accounts at Dukascopy bank if you have over 50k. This is good because you get protected and you are not in a pooled segregated account of broker. And they offer bigger insurance than EU. EU offers 20k EUR while Swiss have 250k CHF. I know this, because Sam or TitanTrader has MAM there and I looked into it before.

Opportunis is 4xcp the same thing as JoePro hedge strategy? Or are they different? The myfxbooks are for JoePro and so are the videos.

Im watching some of JoePro's videos and that guy looks just like a paid actor reading scrips LOL. He has a nice performance though I cannot argue with that and it is myfxbook verified even though it is across a few different versions.

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Re: Experience with PAMM accounts?
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2017, 02:16:59 AM »
jwatts,

i am also getting more and more excited about mt cook.

doing extensive research myself, did not know divisa clears the trades, thats news to me.

you must be trading some high speed stuff i assume, gee might have to undust mine ;)

one mystery so far is still how to find systems on mt cook, i cant find nada. why are they not listed anywhere on their site ? with links to myfxbooks, man that be sweet but no dice..........

or am i blind......................
« Last Edit: November 16, 2017, 02:31:36 AM by reinerh »

 

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