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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2017, 12:14:15 AM »
Ian, as I have said it works for me. Could you "further the script to select the right tab and change/view the "Allow Live Trading" check box but have not done it yet "

All I would then need is for the script to be able to be activated from the other MT4 platform. And hopefully my coder could do that.

Ha - not done that bit yet - the popup is a top level window with a few tiers in the hierarchy below and I stalled looking into navigating (I have other things to do as well) . I have seen autoit b4 - perhaps i should look as it might have tools that would let me investigate the GUI model more easily - or some other tool so am not groping about in MQL . I did consider using a tool such as that but ultimately i wanted interactive control and didnt want to get bogged down interfacing to autoit

If i don't get the time to progress soon i'll post what i have in case you want a pop

Was pointed out to me that if "allow live trading" is unticked in the Common tab, we get an endless series of ERROR messages in the Experts tab. Not sure if there is a way to block that.
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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2017, 02:03:26 AM »
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Like they say, "Where is the beef"?

1- I have yet to see a winning myfxbook account using this EA and it amigos.

2- If this EA is still in development, without real results from the vendor, why is he selling it to users who may, in turn, lose more than their investment to purchase the product?

I would apologize in advance if I missed something while reading all the previous posts.

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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2017, 02:22:42 AM »
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Like they say, "Where is the beef"?

1- I have yet to see a winning myfxbook account using this EA and it amigos.

2- If this EA is still in development, without real results from the vendor, why is he selling it to users who may, in turn, lose more than their investment to purchase the product?

I would apologize in advance if I missed something while reading all the previous posts.

Regards,
Ilios Ellas

Hi Ilios

Thanks for the questions; and yes you have indeed missed several things.

1. The EA Controller is NOT and EA. It is an indicator which works in conjunction with EAs, acting as a filter if you like to help avoid DDs.

2. All products are subject to enhancement. The Reply you are referring too is part of an attempt to offer a second way of using the Controller with 3rd party EAs. The other way, currently available, being with the use of the FX Blue Trade Copier.

3. In the test that Donna is running with the Controller and the EAs that come as a bonus with the Controller, the account is currently in profit. See https://www.myfxbook.com/members/donnaforexreal/ea-controller/2011173
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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2017, 03:49:38 AM »
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Like they say, "Where is the beef"?

1- I have yet to see a winning myfxbook account using this EA and it amigos.

2- If this EA is still in development, without real results from the vendor, why is he selling it to users who may, in turn, lose more than their investment to purchase the product?

I would apologize in advance if I missed something while reading all the previous posts.

Regards,
Ilios Ellas

Hi Ilios

Thanks for the questions; and yes you have indeed missed several things.

1. The EA Controller is NOT and EA. It is an indicator which works in conjunction with EAs, acting as a filter if you like to help avoid DDs.

2. All products are subject to enhancement. The Reply you are referring too is part of an attempt to offer a second way of using the Controller with 3rd party EAs. The other way, currently available, being with the use of the FX Blue Trade Copier.

3. In the test that Donna is running with the Controller and the EAs that come as a bonus with the Controller, the account is currently in profit. See https://www.myfxbook.com/members/donnaforexreal/ea-controller/2011173

Just in reference to point 2 in the quote. I am always looking to enhance the products I sell. For my FX Autotrader Elite for instance http://www.fxautotraderelite.com/ which I launched in 2014, I have provided at least six enhancements - all free of charge to existing customers. Similarly for the DIY Trade Manager Plus http://diytrademanagerplus.com/  . I will do the same for the EA Controller http://exceptionalfx.com/ea-controller/

That is all part of the service in addition to responding to normal support queries, usually within 24 hrs.
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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2017, 01:20:32 PM »
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Like they say, "Where is the beef"?

1- I have yet to see a winning myfxbook account using this EA and it amigos.

2- If this EA is still in development, without real results from the vendor, why is he selling it to users who may, in turn, lose more than their investment to purchase the product?

I would apologize in advance if I missed something while reading all the previous posts.

Regards,
Ilios Ellas

Hi Ilios

Thanks for the questions; and yes you have indeed missed several things.

1. The EA Controller is NOT and EA. It is an indicator which works in conjunction with EAs, acting as a filter if you like to help avoid DDs.

2. All products are subject to enhancement. The Reply you are referring too is part of an attempt to offer a second way of using the Controller with 3rd party EAs. The other way, currently available, being with the use of the FX Blue Trade Copier.

3. In the test that Donna is running with the Controller and the EAs that come as a bonus with the Controller, the account is currently in profit. See https://www.myfxbook.com/members/donnaforexreal/ea-controller/2011173

Just in reference to point 2 in the quote. I am always looking to enhance the products I sell. For my FX Autotrader Elite for instance http://www.fxautotraderelite.com/ which I launched in 2014, I have provided at least six enhancements - all free of charge to existing customers. Similarly for the DIY Trade Manager Plus http://diytrademanagerplus.com/ . I will do the same for the EA Controller http://exceptionalfx.com/ea-controller/

That is all part of the service in addition to responding to normal support queries, usually within 24 hrs.

Thank you, diyforexskills.

No, I don't think I missed much.

1- You are playing with words. I would say that your "program" is an EA but that it uses an "indicator" such as MA.

2- With regards to Fx Blue Copier, I have been using it since it was made available to manually do what your EA/Controller attempts to do. The way I have been doing this is to constantly analyzing the returns of my EA's (At least 8 EA's) and turning them on/off much like what you are trying to automate.

3- With regards to successful trading, the account which is provided is at a great loss and Donna's account is too short term to determine any success or praise after a month with a Monthly 0.97% return, Drawdown: 4.14% after; if you consider that this is the "composite" work of at least four "specific" EA's which have been fine-tuned to work with this EA/Indicator.

Having said this, I am still optimistic that what you are working on, is a much-needed product and I would be more than happy to become an additional 3rd party tester, to parallel that of Donna's evaluation... you can pm me.


Regards,
Ilios Ellas
« Last Edit: March 30, 2017, 01:35:55 PM by iliosellas »
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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2017, 01:30:59 PM »
Just a note re. my test, a couple of 'bad' trades were setup issues early on, and i have also missed a couple of positive trades that should have been taken in the last couple of days. Not that it makes much difference as it's still very early days, but wanted to note it here.
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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2017, 02:33:46 AM »
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Like they say, "Where is the beef"?

1- I have yet to see a winning myfxbook account using this EA and it amigos.

2- If this EA is still in development, without real results from the vendor, why is he selling it to users who may, in turn, lose more than their investment to purchase the product?

I would apologize in advance if I missed something while reading all the previous posts.

Regards,
Ilios Ellas

Hi Ilios

Thanks for the questions; and yes you have indeed missed several things.

1. The EA Controller is NOT and EA. It is an indicator which works in conjunction with EAs, acting as a filter if you like to help avoid DDs.

2. All products are subject to enhancement. The Reply you are referring too is part of an attempt to offer a second way of using the Controller with 3rd party EAs. The other way, currently available, being with the use of the FX Blue Trade Copier.

3. In the test that Donna is running with the Controller and the EAs that come as a bonus with the Controller, the account is currently in profit. See https://www.myfxbook.com/members/donnaforexreal/ea-controller/2011173

Just in reference to point 2 in the quote. I am always looking to enhance the products I sell. For my FX Autotrader Elite for instance http://www.fxautotraderelite.com/ which I launched in 2014, I have provided at least six enhancements - all free of charge to existing customers. Similarly for the DIY Trade Manager Plus http://diytrademanagerplus.com/ . I will do the same for the EA Controller http://exceptionalfx.com/ea-controller/

That is all part of the service in addition to responding to normal support queries, usually within 24 hrs.

Thank you, diyforexskills.

No, I don't think I missed much.

1- You are playing with words. I would say that your "program" is an EA but that it uses an "indicator" such as MA.

2- With regards to Fx Blue Copier, I have been using it since it was made available to manually do what your EA/Controller attempts to do. The way I have been doing this is to constantly analyzing the returns of my EA's (At least 8 EA's) and turning them on/off much like what you are trying to automate.

3- With regards to successful trading, the account which is provided is at a great loss and Donna's account is too short term to determine any success or praise after a month with a Monthly 0.97% return, Drawdown: 4.14% after; if you consider that this is the "composite" work of at least four "specific" EA's which have been fine-tuned to work with this EA/Indicator.

Having said this, I am still optimistic that what you are working on, is a much-needed product and I would be more than happy to become an additional 3rd party tester, to parallel that of Donna's evaluation... you can pm me.


Regards,
Ilios Ellas

Hi Ilios
Thanks. I will pm you to see how we can set up another test. Will also be having some other tests as per the Wally thread.

Pls note however that the account that I provided and which is in DD, went into DD BEFORE I introduced the Controller onto that account. Since then I have been up but got hit by a bad week (trading 12 EAs on that account) so now essentially flat.  It was that previous large DD that spurred me to develop the Controller and the Controller is now doing exactly what it is meant to do - keep me out of DDs.

As shown in the image for one of the 12 EAs that I am running with this system.

So what is being tested is not the Controller per se. Nor is it the EA(s). Rather it is to see whether the performance of an EA, any non-grid/non-marty EA, can be improved if we can automatically have the EA trades copied selectively. That is, copy the trades to live account when EA performance is in uptrend. Stop copying the EA trades to live account when EA performance is in downtrend.

In order to do that we need to trade our EAs on demo 24/5, and selectively have the trades copied to live account.  Can be done manually, but with the Controller this is done automatically using the user-defined properties of a MA of closed profit of the EA.

The point I want to make in general is that the EA Controller does NOT place trades nor does it manage any open trades. It sits in the Indicator folder of MT4 on the demo account. To use it you need to run any EA(s) on demo and use the FX Blue Trade Copier to copy filtered trades to your live account. The EA Controller does the filtering if you like in that it only allows copying while the performance curve of your EA is in uptrend.

This filtered copying works. That is why the EA Controller is already on sale. It is up to users to run it with their own EAs so see whether it improves the performance outcomes of their EA(s). A bit like buying a Trade Manager to see if you can improve the performance of your manual trading strategies.


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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #52 on: April 01, 2017, 06:28:58 AM »
Hello, i read sometimes the Controller manage the EAs , as sample Wally on the Live side, in a other i read the Controller sends the Trade signals to the Live Account. hmm.
I have to install Wally on the Demo and on the Live Account, or only on the Demo Account????
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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2017, 07:51:09 AM »
Hello, i read sometimes the Controller manage the EAs , as sample Wally on the Live side, in a other i read the Controller sends the Trade signals to the Live Account. hmm.
I have to install Wally on the Demo and on the Live Account, or only on the Demo Account????

Only on the demo, together with the EA Controller on the same chart as Wally (repeat if you are running Wally on several currencies).
Then add the FX Blue Trade Copier Sender to any other chart on that demo account.
Place a FX Blue Trade Copier Receiver on any chart on the live account.
Make sure the version of FX Blue Trade Copier that you have is v7.10 or higher. That version has the modification to run with the Controller.
Obviously all the required settings need to be entered as per User Guide

If you run Wally on more than one currency pair then you need a separate copy of the Trade Copier Sender and Receiver for each currency pair. Because each instance of Wally on different currency pairs needs to be controlled/managed individually.

What you read about having to place the EA on both demo and live applies only to when you are using one of the EAs supplied with the Controller, or made with the FX Autotrader Elite. Those EAs can be run in Signal mode which means that you don't have to use the Trade Copier.
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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #54 on: April 01, 2017, 08:18:28 AM »
Hello, i read sometimes the Controller manage the EAs , as sample Wally on the Live side, in a other i read the Controller sends the Trade signals to the Live Account. hmm.
I have to install Wally on the Demo and on the Live Account, or only on the Demo Account????

Only on the demo, together with the EA Controller on the same chart as Wally (repeat if you are running Wally on several currencies).
Then add the FX Blue Trade Copier Sender to any other chart on that demo account.
Place a FX Blue Trade Copier Receiver on any chart on the live account.
Make sure the version of FX Blue Trade Copier that you have is v7.10 or higher. That version has the modification to run with the Controller.
Obviously all the required settings need to be entered as per User Guide

If you run Wally on more than one currency pair then you need a separate copy of the Trade Copier Sender and Receiver for each currency pair. Because each instance of Wally on different currency pairs needs to be controlled/managed individually.

What you read about having to place the EA on both demo and live applies only to when you are using one of the EAs supplied with the Controller, or made with the FX Autotrader Elite. Those EAs can be run in Signal mode which means that you don't have to use the Trade Copier.

Thanks for your answer, i have to know my idear is working or not bevor i Buy. If i have a EA with sample 6 Strategies and 6 Magicnrs.  per pair on 5 Different Charts, this works also??


Regards , Roeckert
« Last Edit: April 01, 2017, 08:29:51 AM by wroeckert »
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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #55 on: April 01, 2017, 08:26:06 AM »
diyforexskills - Is the MA based on each trade (so not temporally linear, daily, weekly etc. I see you already commented on it being equity at trade close so i guess its the trade based MA. Am i right in assuming the Wally recovery is less than suitable for this exercise because of its aggressive sizing.

Is it an SMA, EMA, etc

I am considering exporting a few well known "performances" on myfxbook and seeing what application of such a trade filter has on equity

If you have any suggestions (other than my first donor) let me know

I shall look at this first (I have to write it so don't hold your breath today)
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexwallstreet/wallstreet-20-evolution-real/1834513

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« Reply #56 on: April 01, 2017, 08:32:06 AM »
Hello, i read sometimes the Controller manage the EAs , as sample Wally on the Live side, in a other i read the Controller sends the Trade signals to the Live Account. hmm.
I have to install Wally on the Demo and on the Live Account, or only on the Demo Account????

Only on the demo, together with the EA Controller on the same chart as Wally (repeat if you are running Wally on several currencies).
Then add the FX Blue Trade Copier Sender to any other chart on that demo account.
Place a FX Blue Trade Copier Receiver on any chart on the live account.
Make sure the version of FX Blue Trade Copier that you have is v7.10 or higher. That version has the modification to run with the Controller.
Obviously all the required settings need to be entered as per User Guide

If you run Wally on more than one currency pair then you need a separate copy of the Trade Copier Sender and Receiver for each currency pair. Because each instance of Wally on different currency pairs needs to be controlled/managed individually.

What you read about having to place the EA on both demo and live applies only to when you are using one of the EAs supplied with the Controller, or made with the FX Autotrader Elite. Those EAs can be run in Signal mode which means that you don't have to use the Trade Copier.

Thanks for your answer, i have to know my idear is working or not bevor i Buy. If i have a EA with sample 6 Strategies per pair on 5 Different Charts, this works also??


Regards , Roeckert

It would work in that the Controller can handle up to 10 magics/strategies per pair. Just be aware that you would need five instances of the Trade copier, one for each chart/currency pair. So your VPS would need to have a reasonable amount of grunt (RAM/CPU) to handle those five copiers and the five EAs that you would be running.
Presumably not all five pairs would always be trading at the same time, thus lessening the demand on the VPS resources.

You could also of course run say 3 pairs normally on your live account and then run two with the Controller on the demo, copying to the live account. So only two Trade Copiers.

You would decide which ones by looking at the past performance of the EA on the different pairs to data and see which ones are the more prone to go into DD. Of course the past is no guarantee for the future.... so investing in enough VPS power would be safer.
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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #57 on: April 01, 2017, 08:48:04 AM »
Hello, i read sometimes the Controller manage the EAs , as sample Wally on the Live side, in a other i read the Controller sends the Trade signals to the Live Account. hmm.
I have to install Wally on the Demo and on the Live Account, or only on the Demo Account????

Only on the demo, together with the EA Controller on the same chart as Wally (repeat if you are running Wally on several currencies).
Then add the FX Blue Trade Copier Sender to any other chart on that demo account.
Place a FX Blue Trade Copier Receiver on any chart on the live account.
Make sure the version of FX Blue Trade Copier that you have is v7.10 or higher. That version has the modification to run with the Controller.
Obviously all the required settings need to be entered as per User Guide

If you run Wally on more than one currency pair then you need a separate copy of the Trade Copier Sender and Receiver for each currency pair. Because each instance of Wally on different currency pairs needs to be controlled/managed individually.

What you read about having to place the EA on both demo and live applies only to when you are using one of the EAs supplied with the Controller, or made with the FX Autotrader Elite. Those EAs can be run in Signal mode which means that you don't have to use the Trade Copier.

Thanks for your answer, i have to know my idear is working or not bevor i Buy. If i have a EA with sample 6 Strategies per pair on 5 Different Charts, this works also??


Regards , Roeckert

It would work in that the Controller can handle up to 10 magics/strategies per pair. Just be aware that you would need five instances of the Trade copier, one for each chart/currency pair. So your VPS would need to have a reasonable amount of grunt (RAM/CPU) to handle those five copiers and the five EAs that you would be running.
Presumably not all five pairs would always be trading at the same time, thus lessening the demand on the VPS resources.

You could also of course run say 3 pairs normally on your live account and then run two with the Controller on the demo, copying to the live account. So only two Trade Copiers.

You would decide which ones by looking at the past performance of the EA on the different pairs to data and see which ones are the more prone to go into DD. Of course the past is no guarantee for the future.... so investing in enough VPS power would be safer.

thanks for Info, the Trade Copier is also in your Sell offer? , sorry for bad english
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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #58 on: April 01, 2017, 08:52:56 AM »
diyforexskills - Is the MA based on each trade (so not temporally linear, daily, weekly etc. I see you already commented on it being equity at trade close so i guess its the trade based MA. Am i right in assuming the Wally recovery is less than suitable for this exercise because of its aggressive sizing.

Is it an SMA, EMA, etc

I am considering exporting a few well known "performances" on myfxbook and seeing what application of such a trade filter has on equity

If you have any suggestions (other than my first donor) let me know

I shall look at this first (I have to write it so don't hold your breath today)
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexwallstreet/wallstreet-20-evolution-real/1834513

Yes, the MA used on the Controller is an MA of closed trades profit/loss, ie balance from closed trades which is same as saying equity at close of trade if I understand you correctly. The MA is user-defined for the standard options for MAs in MT4 including period (=number of closed trades), type and shift. At this stage I am inclined to use SMMA of "period" 20. But I think that this setting will be EA dependent based on the nature of its performance curve over time. That is we will be able to "tune" MA being used by the Controller to the particular EA.

I am not familiar with Wally so can't comment on that one. In general it is not sizing that is so important in my view. More that it would not make much sense if you had an EA which was often in DD and relied on some occasional massive trade wins to be overall profitable. Because then the chance would be that copying would have been switched off just before we had this massive winning trade; and we would have missed it because copying has been on off.

I hope I have answered your questions.
Regards, Andrew
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Re: EA Controller
« Reply #59 on: April 01, 2017, 08:56:13 AM »
Hello, i read sometimes the Controller manage the EAs , as sample Wally on the Live side, in a other i read the Controller sends the Trade signals to the Live Account. hmm.
I have to install Wally on the Demo and on the Live Account, or only on the Demo Account????

Only on the demo, together with the EA Controller on the same chart as Wally (repeat if you are running Wally on several currencies).
Then add the FX Blue Trade Copier Sender to any other chart on that demo account.
Place a FX Blue Trade Copier Receiver on any chart on the live account.
Make sure the version of FX Blue Trade Copier that you have is v7.10 or higher. That version has the modification to run with the Controller.
Obviously all the required settings need to be entered as per User Guide

If you run Wally on more than one currency pair then you need a separate copy of the Trade Copier Sender and Receiver for each currency pair. Because each instance of Wally on different currency pairs needs to be controlled/managed individually.

What you read about having to place the EA on both demo and live applies only to when you are using one of the EAs supplied with the Controller, or made with the FX Autotrader Elite. Those EAs can be run in Signal mode which means that you don't have to use the Trade Copier.

Thanks for your answer, i have to know my idear is working or not bevor i Buy. If i have a EA with sample 6 Strategies per pair on 5 Different Charts, this works also??


Regards , Roeckert

It would work in that the Controller can handle up to 10 magics/strategies per pair. Just be aware that you would need five instances of the Trade copier, one for each chart/currency pair. So your VPS would need to have a reasonable amount of grunt (RAM/CPU) to handle those five copiers and the five EAs that you would be running.
Presumably not all five pairs would always be trading at the same time, thus lessening the demand on the VPS resources.

You could also of course run say 3 pairs normally on your live account and then run two with the Controller on the demo, copying to the live account. So only two Trade Copiers.

You would decide which ones by looking at the past performance of the EA on the different pairs to data and see which ones are the more prone to go into DD. Of course the past is no guarantee for the future.... so investing in enough VPS power would be safer.

thanks for Info, the Trade Copier is also in your Sell offer? , sorry for bad english

The FX Blue Trade Copier is available for free from https://www.fxblue.com/appstore/2/mt4-personal-trade-copier

You just need to register, but the download and use is free.
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