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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #735 on: May 17, 2019, 10:42:38 PM »
funny how its all gone silent now....
And your point is?

People only complain when theres a drawdown

Yet he makes the best money in phases of drawdown....

You still have no clue whatsoever why the complaints. You're discrediting yourself so nobody else needs to. Good job there! You'd do yourself and OTB a favor if you just stopped.

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #736 on: May 18, 2019, 03:49:02 AM »
In this market, so full of amazing possibilities and freedoms, it is YOU vs. YOU.  own it.
From the very beginning, as with any goal or significant challenge, one has to:


1 - determine how to be disciplined in work ethic and emotional self-regulation
2 - listen to the right people
3 - take responsibility for "everything" that happens to my money
4 - explore the three areas in the meme below.... over and over and over again until I master them



« Last Edit: May 18, 2019, 03:52:29 AM by outsidetheboxhk »
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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #737 on: May 18, 2019, 06:03:05 AM »
funny how its all gone silent now....
And your point is?

People only complain when theres a drawdown

Yet he makes the best money in phases of drawdown....

You still have no clue whatsoever why the complaints. You're discrediting yourself so nobody else needs to. Good job there! You'd do yourself and OTB a favor if you just stopped.

Oh dear, you dont even know who I am and youre already talking shit about how im discrediting myself. Sheesh

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #738 on: May 28, 2019, 08:20:09 PM »
@ outsidetheboxhk

I would like to know something about the features of the Outside The Box Low Drawdown signal compared to your other signals.
On Signal Start you have specified that the DD will have a maximum limit of 10%.
Does this mean that you will limit only two or three open positions in the same direction, so as to limit the DD?

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #739 on: May 29, 2019, 04:18:51 AM »
@ outsidetheboxhk

I would like to know something about the features of the Outside The Box Low Drawdown signal compared to your other signals.
On Signal Start you have specified that the DD will have a maximum limit of 10%.
Does this mean that you will limit only two or three open positions in the same direction, so as to limit the DD?

Hi @laracroft

Yes you have analysed my trading plan very well indeed.
I am more cautious with Position Size / Total Exposure and of course most importantly the entry price and take profit are positioned to capture only higher probability "meat" of shorter ranges that I seize.
And pls remember 10% drawdown max limit is a rough benchmark or target.  I will navigate the "airplane" to the "runway" with utmost care.  In less common situations the airplane does not land on the tarmac perfectly.
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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #740 on: June 18, 2019, 04:10:27 PM »
Almost one year trying your pamm low risk: zero return. Back under investment today. Tired.
And WTF is that : https://www.myfxbook.com/members/OutsideTheBoxHK/outside-box-mt-cook-master/3319100
That do not reflect at all my pamm account in Mt cook.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2019, 07:42:42 PM by Xavier cha »

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #741 on: June 19, 2019, 03:15:19 AM »
1.  The link you provided is exactly what all my PAMM fund clients receive if they make a 1x risk multiplier setting
    As the equity curve shows, we have made handsome profits for 3 month, 6 month, and 12 month ROI.
2.  clients also control "rescue levels" for equity when they want the hybrid pamm system to cut and disconnect
3.  I do not see your name listed as an active client in the Mt Cook PAMM.  How long were you invested, if ever?

Also these are personal queries.  Please contact me privately for these sorts of issues.  Thx.
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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #742 on: June 19, 2019, 10:23:22 AM »
I m in since september 2018. That does not reflect at all my balance. Put 1.5 k. Risk 1.2. The 6 first month my balance was oscillating between 1.5 and 1.7 k. Up and down. Then i dont remember when it climbed to 2.1k and a few week later 1.4 K. I stoped following (risk reduced to 0.1 or 0.2) a few weeks, then restarted and risk 1. Today 1.48 k .
Simple.
The fxbook say for this week +0.95% . my account lost more than 200 doll... a bit strange, no?
PAMM account in pm
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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #743 on: June 19, 2019, 04:03:27 PM »
I m in since september 2018. That does not reflect at all my balance. Put 1.5 k. Risk 1.2. The 6 first month my balance was oscillating between 1.5 and 1.7 k. Up and down. Then i dont remember when it climbed to 2.1k and a few week later 1.4 K. I stoped following (risk reduced to 0.1 or 0.2) a few weeks, then restarted and risk 1. Today 1.48 k .
Simple.
PAMM account in pm

Okay 2 things....
1. MT Cook shows your account balance as the account equity meaning it deviates based on the trades that are still running in the account. while the Balance curve on MtCook is based purely on all the trades closed excluding the open floating positions still running.
2. You really shouldn't be changing your risk factor this frequently buddy.... pick a level of risk you are comfortable with and stick with it.
otherwise you run the risk of not being able to benefit from profitable trades because you lowered the risk factor, making it longer for you to recuperate the outstanding drawdown you are facing....

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #744 on: June 19, 2019, 08:08:42 PM »
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/OutsideTheBoxHK/outside-box-darwinex-bux/2571506

Great job buddy. 70%+ DD on an account thats making 2% profit per month is really something. You were absolutely correct, not many people can do what you are able to do. This is some "next level" trading for real LOL
We all knew you are a fraud (with a few naive exceptions).


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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #745 on: June 19, 2019, 08:28:20 PM »
https://www.darwinex.com/account/D.65842

80% DD actually... Where can I sign up? haha

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #746 on: June 19, 2019, 09:45:55 PM »
@fxtyrant. he close his trade everyday. So it s easy to compare balance equity etc. Actually this fxbook is not the one i subscribed. The total balance does not match. I would be curious to see the fxbook of the pamm i subscribed.
About the risk. when i subscribed to this pamm, OTB wasn't betting on DOW. Only on NZD and aud. Was low risk. Then he decided to bet on dow and zar (and turkish livra, but not sure). High risk. I would be stupid to not reduce the risk.
Again today a loss again the ZAR.
Used to be low risk... Coz of no stop loss: big drawdown. With fiat, i can understand the strategy, but with dow?
New low today. 3 pair - 3 loss. I dont even understand why trading today with the fed.
Probably gonna close this account at the end of the week.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2019, 10:05:55 PM by Xavier cha »

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #747 on: June 19, 2019, 11:35:46 PM »
https://www.darwinex.com/account/D.65842

80% DD actually... Where can I sign up? haha

His AxiSelect Master shows max DD @ 64.94%. I think that just happened. I don't imagine the Psyquation/AxiSelect Group will like it!
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/OutsideTheBoxHK/outside-box-axiselect-master/2590238

Cheers,
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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #748 on: June 19, 2019, 11:40:38 PM »
@fxtyrant. he close his trade everyday. So it s easy to compare balance equity etc. Actually this fxbook is not the one i subscribed. The total balance does not match. I would be curious to see the fxbook of the pamm i subscribed.
About the risk. when i subscribed to this pamm, OTB wasn't betting on DOW. Only on NZD and aud. Was low risk. Then he decided to bet on dow and zar (and turkish livra, but not sure). High risk. I would be stupid to not reduce the risk.
Again today a loss again the ZAR.
Used to be low risk... Coz of no stop loss: big drawdown. With fiat, i can understand the strategy, but with dow?
New low today. 3 pair - 3 loss. I dont even understand why trading today with the fed.
Probably gonna close this account at the end of the week.

As a member of his PAMM were you advised in advance of the fact that he was increasing risk and doing what seems like big changes to his strategy?

Rod

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #749 on: June 20, 2019, 01:18:27 AM »
@fxtyrant. he close his trade everyday. So it s easy to compare balance equity etc. Actually this fxbook is not the one i subscribed. The total balance does not match. I would be curious to see the fxbook of the pamm i subscribed.
About the risk. when i subscribed to this pamm, OTB wasn't betting on DOW. Only on NZD and aud. Was low risk. Then he decided to bet on dow and zar (and turkish livra, but not sure). High risk. I would be stupid to not reduce the risk.
Again today a loss again the ZAR.
Used to be low risk... Coz of no stop loss: big drawdown. With fiat, i can understand the strategy, but with dow?
New low today. 3 pair - 3 loss. I dont even understand why trading today with the fed.
Probably gonna close this account at the end of the week.

That's what mtcook system does..... they show the balance as if trades are closed every  day but they're not....
none of the trades have closed for loss today.

strange thing is his copy trader is now at around 20% dd though.....
im not too sure about his risk management on the other broker/platforms like darwinex/axi..

whats more surprising to me  is why is his darwinex (BUX) closing the 1 of the 3 Dow trades at a loss... copy traders didn't get that hit....
« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 03:31:38 AM by fxtyrant »

 

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