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Offline broncoman

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2017, 10:17:55 AM »
I am not aware of any $25 fee from signal start, just the provider fee.  $69 is an ok fee for the quality of this signal

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2017, 10:53:32 AM »
5 - Subscribe to SignalStart trade copying feed for $69 per month, and apply it to your MetaTrader platform.

Unless I am mistaken the actual monthly cost to subscribe to you is USD$69/month + SignalStart Fee USD25/month which in my currency (AUD$) makes it around $126.25/month which is very expensive when compared to most other signals I have ever followed. Do you plan on offering this service through other signal services who don't charge your clients a fee as well as you? With no free 1 month trial to try the signal on low risk and and only a limited history, whilst I'm interested, I am also a bit leery of putting my account and a very high monthly fee at risk.

Pete

I @petermatt nice to meet you.
There has been heaps of interest in my system this past week thru numerous channels, so it is invigorating to sit down on a Sunday to study the charts, get ready for a new week, and to keep improving my habits and skills so that I can provide a good return to those who follow me.
You raise some good questions.
1. The fee of $69 monthly will increase and decrease based on market demand.  I already increased it once, and looking at the trajectory, I will increase it again to $79 if my models suggest I do so.  I trust mathematics, statistics, and those who have paved the way forward before me.  I bring value to my subscribers, so $100 per month is not much when you just sit back and watch me handle the focus and high pressure and you get 30% to 80% in a month.  Sounds good to me, even if you only have $1000 to start with in your trading account.  My signal is waiting for approval on other well know sites, but it will always be the same monthly fee.  If you lock in the $69/month fee now, then your expense will not change if it increases or decreases in the future.  The $25 fee from Signal Start is a once off charge.  Only for set up.  Compared to a 50% success fee that some professional traders charge for their clients for their managed accounts, I think this signal set up is much better value.
The advantages to managed accounts are that some money managers will share the losing months with their clients, and some also give extra incentives to their clients for depositing larger amounts or for long-term loyalty, and some others even give shares to their clients in their companies.
2. Gotta think huge and be rigorous on controlling your own risk.  I am responsible for entering the trades, but what you control is:

1- exiting trades before I close them if you want
2- switching to "inactive" mode
3- deciding the volume to trade in proportion to your account size (and the risk I am trading)
4- others have chosen to follow my open trades using a demo account the first two weeks or one month, but this still requires an investment towards the subscription cost because we are talking professional services here and considerable returns.

I hope I have not spoken too harshly.  I like to be clear and to the point.  So that we can get busy growing our accounts, compounding our monthly funds, and eventually to empower our freedom and flexibility to do what it is we are here on earth to do. 
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Offline petermatt

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2017, 08:07:38 PM »
I am not aware of any $25 fee from signal start, just the provider fee.  $69 is an ok fee for the quality of this signal
SignalStart Fee USD25/month?

I thought is just one time fee  8)
Nice to meet you too Outsidethebox.

From the SignalStart Website:

Pricing
There are no hidden charges or costs. Signal Start Service fee is only $25/month per account (Subscription to signals is billed separately, based on the selected signals). Additionally, if you are a signal provider, we charge only 30% of your listing fee for which you get a complete, professional and managed solution for your signal service.

Time Limited Offer for signal followers! Test Our service for 1 week for $1 only (instead of $25 per month)!

Time Limited Offer for signal providers! Pay only a one time setup fee of $25 (instead of $25 per month)!

Regards
Pete

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2017, 09:56:35 PM »
I already subscribe to the service from the beginning of the month.

Let us see what is the profit percentage at the end of the month.

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2017, 05:57:01 AM »
I already subscribe to the service from the beginning of the month.

Let us see what is the profit percentage at the end of the month.

awesome, do update us the result


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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2017, 02:17:05 AM »
Life as a trader can be a lonely one, if a social support network is not sought, and it can also be fraught with complainers, naysayers, emotional people, double-minded, and those who lack knowledge of the multiplicity of factors that make one trade position one of strength or weakness.

I would like to draw your attention to a period of DD last week with the Outside the Box HK system.

Please analyse and comment as you feel is necessary.
What kind of DD tactics were employed by myself?  What was the end result?  Where were my mistakes?  Where were my victories?


At this point in my development as a professional fx trader, I have to be content, but I always seek to improve and to enter dialogues that are based in reality, positive, and constructive.  Not to mention mature and knowledgeable.

If you do not share these same goals, then you should restrain yourself and remain silent.  Move on to seek your own goals.  Or just do nothing, like many people do.  I am not one of these people.  I have skin in the game.  I am not backing down in fear.  I manage my risk, stand ready to employ trading tactics that each situation calls for, and more than anything I stick to disciplines and patience that have been forged in the fiery furnace of experience, of being in the arena, of having skin in the game.

I received messages from at least two followers who succumbed to their emotions last week.
Was it warranted?
See my FX Poem below.
See also my signature quote.
Never give up.
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Offline castlebrook

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2017, 07:06:54 PM »
Hi
you wrote...

Please analyse and comment as you feel is necessary.
What kind of DD tactics were employed by myself?  What was the end result?  Where were my mistakes?  Where were my victories?

So why the large drawdown last week? What happened?

In an earlier post you said some companies give shares for larger investment. Which companies?

Thanks.
PS Would probably be an interesting ride with you. Roller-coaster maybe?? ;)

Offline outsidetheboxhk

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2017, 05:48:45 AM »
If you can't see it in my trade history, then I shall not educate you, as that is not the reason I am here.
I am here to prove that I can make good consistent returns, that I can recover well from inevitable DD's, and that I am always willing to learn and to adjust my strategies to a market that is always changing, always adjusting, and always responding to new things in the world.

I stuck to my plan.  Simple.  I trade like a robot with a human brain.  I had a fundamental belief that GBP was overextended.
I was referring to the Ltd company that I am setting up.  Where I seek to reward high net worth PAMM clients with shares in my company.
Working on it with my partner here in Hong Kong.

Please identity your purpose for asking.  Troll?  hater?  Then I only grow stronger.
I will soon be a PAMM manager with FxPig, a signal provider thru Signal Start and MQL5, and SimpleTrader in August, and I have my own equity too.  I am here to push myself, to stay humble and nimble, and to join the ranks of #digitalnomad traders who have worked hard for their freedom and respect.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2017, 05:52:50 AM by outsidetheboxhk »
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Offline castlebrook

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2017, 09:52:39 AM »
I am disappointed by such a massively defensive reply.
It was a genuine post,  from a seriously interested party. The smiley face I put on my message was put there to show that.
Which part of the smiley face did you interpret as a hater or troll?
Which question I asked did you find so offensive?

Looking at your quote as part of your avatar, I get the impression that you feel life has not treated you well and you have to fight all the time and everyone is out to get you. Maybe that explains such a curt response from you to a genuine post. Who knows.

One thing for sure and I say this in a nice way so you don't go off on one, I'm not sure about your interpretation of humble.
Forget my questions, I have all the answers I need.

Good luck.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2017, 09:58:06 AM by castlebrook »

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2017, 07:27:16 PM »
In my post I asked others to do the analysis.  I have already done mine and that is why I stuck to my plan and came far out of DD.
My job is to trade and to win.  Your job is to do your own homework and to not bother me with stupid questions.

By the way  :P ;) do you know what a good true definition of "humble" is.
Knowing the truth about oneself and the world and behaving accordingly without caring what others feel about oneself. ;) ;)
« Last Edit: June 14, 2017, 07:29:49 PM by outsidetheboxhk »
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Copy or Invest in my Strategy

DARWINEX
PSYQUATION
ZuluTrade (2 compensation models)

SignalStart
SimpleTrader
MQL5 Zero Spread
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Offline forexbaby

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2017, 04:04:33 AM »
Hi guys, I think is a misunderstanding at both sides.

For signal  provider, we do get abused a lot so maybe a bit more defensive at times.

But guys, one more friend is better than enemy. Our aim is pip right? so focus on the business and not emotion etc.

It is very easy to misunderstand each other. Different countries different culture etc  ;D


Offline castlebrook

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2017, 01:35:16 PM »
In my post I asked others to do the analysis.  I have already done mine and that is why I stuck to my plan and came far out of DD.
My job is to trade and to win.  Your job is to do your own homework and to not bother me with stupid questions.

By the way  :P ;) do you know what a good true definition of "humble" is.
Knowing the truth about oneself and the world and behaving accordingly without caring what others feel about oneself. ;) ;)

Thanks for that. Says a lot. But mostly about you. Again good luck with your trading.

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2017, 04:26:55 PM »
this one is really too risky bot is worth to follow beacause of good amount of his own money ,will see how it goes

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2017, 12:44:17 PM »
Going strong.
And not looking back.
I only grow stronger week by week.

I am ranked #32 on signal start.  and climbing the ranks on MQL5.
I have a clearly defined trade strategy, and I stick to it.  It is based on years of statistics and probability training as a maths teacher, and watching 1000's of hours of price action of 14 years of trading.
For those who doubted my June return, does 23% excite you with very short time of DD.

If you are interested to join my either of my two PAMM funds, contact me.
If you are interested to receive one-on-one Forex Trader Training, pls contact me.

Here is an outline of the 8 module system I have developed with the advice of prop traders and owing to my own experience:

I have developed an 8 module forex trader training system which I have taught as a part of a classroom setting and as a part of online Skype sessions where we go over all the Basics that give a good foundation to become a forex trader that earns consistent profits, either part time or full time.
Here are the modules:

Intro to Forex
 - Forex Charts - indicators, placing trendlines/lines of Support/Resistance
 - How to set up a demo / live account with a broker
 - How to use the broker platform / Metatrader 4
 - Trade details - spreads, swap, market hours, session dynamics
 - How to place different types of orders, forex currency pairs

Trade Setup
 - Risk Management - entry, lot sizing, stops, take profits, timeframes, trade statistics, risk events/volatility
 - Psychology / Discipline - how to stay mentally and emotionally stable as a trader
 - Developing a Trading Plan / Strategy
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Basic Plan - 8 hours
PT Trader - 16 hours
Prop Trader - Complete Package including 24/7 skype access to me, 15 real time trading sessions and 20 hours of training
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Copy or Invest in my Strategy

DARWINEX
PSYQUATION
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SignalStart
SimpleTrader
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Offline dutchie

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Re: Outsidethebox (SignalStart)
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2017, 05:56:29 PM »
Hey Greg,

Could you correct the link to your SignalStart?
The one in  in your signature will give me a 400 error (invalid hostname)
Guess http:// is missing in the link

Thanks and interesting approach
« Last Edit: June 25, 2017, 06:00:25 PM by dutchie »
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