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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #615 on: April 22, 2019, 07:47:48 PM »
The Dow is not something ive seen you trade before so i dont know what sort of track record you have with the Dow...

Pray its not something thats going to end up disastrous

don't worry ,it is going to reverse soon

The biggest issue is theres lots of red flags that the us equities is overstretched...

But for the first time me being in finance. Im struggling to find a catalyst for US equities weakness... maybe poor q1 earnings?
Volatility spike?

I do think North Korea could also be a wild card as kim jong un on the news again with bomb threats.... hes clearly not too happy with how the US and north korea summit gone down in vietnam

manufacturing in usa is on fire, totally the opposite what you hear in the media. i have contacts in industry all over and they cant make the parts fast enough. overtime and more machines on order to fill the huge amount of order backlog they have, this is what i hear straight from the horses mouth.

but real estate i think is slowing finally.

it would not surprise me if the dow takes out the top, but a correction has to come at some point.

it will correct (reverse) soon .just normal cycling don't necessary need a trigger ,will happen always will

100 % retracement stock is ready to reverse  too

https://charts.mql5.com/21/32/us30-d1-international-capital-markets.png

would not be too worry as long  as you get sufficiant margin

Nick, I am afraid that's not how trading work. If there is no timing mechanism to your trade entries then you are simply gambling.

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #616 on: April 23, 2019, 07:43:37 AM »
Do you know why myfxbook reference account is not updating from 22 hours? Is it a way to manipulate how myfxbook calculate drawdown?

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« Reply #617 on: April 23, 2019, 07:56:10 AM »
Do you know why myfxbook reference account is not updating from 22 hours? Is it a way to manipulate how myfxbook calculate drawdown?

Yep, myfxbook equity drawdown can be calculated by either keeping it connected or at the close of the daily candle.

So this trader is hoping that things will turn around at the end of the day and record less drawdown.

So in short, yes he is manipulating the myfxbook and manipulating everyone as he has always been  with his hold and pray trading style.

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« Reply #618 on: April 23, 2019, 09:48:52 AM »
Or he has been trading from his tablet and phone, which do not have the Myfxbook Publisher EA affixed to the MT4 terminal so it is not possible to update them until I get to a terminal.
My Hosted MT4 terminal for this account does not run the update EA as I have chosen to handle this manually.
Manipulation of this data is not something I choose to do. It is not reliable anyway.
I must sheepishly admit, you guys are choosing to be paranoid about what I am doing to "trick" people. This is not a priority of mine. There are many ways to prove this if you knew how everything works together, but one way to know is that I would do this trick with my high risk accounts too, but I have not done this.
Secondly, our drawdown has actually lessened over the last 30 hours and we have recorded more closed profits.
So why am I hiding money gained??
I have to laugh.
Please be patient, as I grind booked profits and diminish drawdown.

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #619 on: April 23, 2019, 04:46:20 PM »
Or he has been trading from his tablet and phone, which do not have the Myfxbook Publisher EA affixed to the MT4 terminal so it is not possible to update them until I get to a terminal.
My Hosted MT4 terminal for this account does not run the update EA as I have chosen to handle this manually.
Manipulation of this data is not something I choose to do. It is not reliable anyway.
I must sheepishly admit, you guys are choosing to be paranoid about what I am doing to "trick" people. This is not a priority of mine. There are many ways to prove this if you knew how everything works together, but one way to know is that I would do this trick with my high risk accounts too, but I have not done this.
Secondly, our drawdown has actually lessened over the last 30 hours and we have recorded more closed profits.
So why am I hiding money gained??
I have to laugh.
Please be patient, as I grind booked profits and diminish drawdown.

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Lets not count our eggs until were out of the water mate...
DOW is not showing any signs of weakness, earnings is pushing dow very close to a new record high mate....

Strangely... dd on the dow is growing faster than you could grind profits

Not asking you to share your strategy. But could you atleast tell us what is leading you to such strong conviction on the dow shorts??

Cant you just admit you screwed up with the dow shorts??

Some people are now at 45-50% dd mate
« Last Edit: April 23, 2019, 05:06:31 PM by fxtyrant »

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #620 on: April 23, 2019, 10:51:40 PM »
1000 points off on breakeven on the dow, the revenue reporting is stronger than expected and with the next round of good news from the stock markets (end of trade tariffs with china?) I'll be on margin call,

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« Reply #621 on: April 24, 2019, 12:12:10 AM »
Both of you have copied a different RISK than I have done with the master account.
therefore you must be vigilant of your own drawdown and margin available in these circumstances.
Technically speaking, we have been at major resistance, and I am able to churn with scalps until we determine if strong levels hold.  regardless, I hope you can learn to think long term and see booked profits over the past 2 months (imagine if there weren't a drawdown, this is how long it would take to recover from drawdown, and look at all the other space of profit without significant drawdown over the past 15 months.)
This pain shall pass, so I hope you are around for the next leg up.
Equity levels are on par with early January levels.
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« Reply #622 on: April 24, 2019, 06:17:13 AM »
Both of you have copied a different RISK than I have done with the master account.
therefore you must be vigilant of your own drawdown and margin available in these circumstances.
Technically speaking, we have been at major resistance, and I am able to churn with scalps until we determine if strong levels hold.  regardless, I hope you can learn to think long term and see booked profits over the past 2 months (imagine if there weren't a drawdown, this is how long it would take to recover from drawdown, and look at all the other space of profit without significant drawdown over the past 15 months.)
This pain shall pass, so I hope you are around for the next leg up.
Equity levels are on par with early January levels.

Thx for reassuring us. Thats all we need, keep grinding the scalps, we could deffo use more of those

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« Reply #623 on: April 24, 2019, 07:38:31 AM »
You will be richly rewarded for your patience and trust.
How hard is it to speak with harsh / negative words?  very easy.
How hard is it to do what I do?  very very hard.
Most of you will never know to what great lengths I have gone to be here with the skill and knowledge that I do have.
In the meantime, sending Filipino sun, smiles, and laughter your way.
Watch me work.  Watch the great God give me his grace to overcome the pitfalls that beset the majority.
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« Reply #624 on: April 24, 2019, 08:12:16 AM »
What skill and knowledge are you talking about?!! You have blown up accounts in the past months and there is no skill or knowledge required to trade the way you do. Which is 100% hold and pray!

If the market breaks further north, you will be completely screwed. All the track record that you keep bragging about will be completely worthless finally!

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #625 on: April 24, 2019, 08:52:42 AM »
You will be richly rewarded for your patience and trust.
How hard is it to speak with harsh / negative words?  very easy.
How hard is it to do what I do?  very very hard.
Most of you will never know to what great lengths I have gone to be here with the skill and knowledge that I do have.
In the meantime, sending Filipino sun, smiles, and laughter your way.
Watch me work.  Watch the great God give me his grace to overcome the pitfalls that beset the majority.

Btw i met with jake the other day. Brilliant dude. Glad you also had time to meetup with him while hes in HK

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #626 on: April 24, 2019, 03:39:55 PM »
Why isn't the MyFxBook updater running on the VPS ?

The maximum drawdown will not be correct unless you leave it connected 24/5

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #627 on: April 24, 2019, 03:47:58 PM »
Why isn't the MyFxBook updater running on the VPS ?

The maximum drawdown will not be correct unless you leave it connected 24/5

You answered your own question right there ;)

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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #628 on: April 24, 2019, 04:37:12 PM »
The current drawdown is alarming if you've just signed on within the last few months. Over the long-term, though, it's not so bad. I'm not going to defend everything OTB says and does, but I do think it's funny that the torches always come out when there's a drawdown. Maybe adjustments of risk are in order for some of you.

Also, I would like to once again state that this is the ONLY signal I have with this kind of performance LONG TERM. I see many people lining up to criticize this provider, and I would like to ONCE AGAIN request that they provide me with the details of a better performing signal. You can PM me or whatever.

I am not interested in hypotheticals or hindsight or what a trader could or couldn't have done looking backwards. ALL I care about is profit. Bottom line. And as you can see, OTB has provided a lot of that for me with manageable drawdown over the last year. If he is a terrible trader as some of you are claiming, then please do not be so selfish and horde your secret signals or providers that are making you secret piles of cash. Share these if you have them! It must not be too hard since OTB is apparently setting such a low bar for performance. I have to reiterate that this is not an empty request from me. I have been asking for the past year for ANY of these detractors to provide me with a single signal that outperforms this one. I'll throw cash at it if it exists.

I truly am just here to make money, not lord my superior (but purely hypothetical and based on hindsight) knowledge over another. It is so confusing to me why there is such hate for this signal provider, but not a single person can show me one they follow or provide themselves that is better. If it exists, put it out there! Aren't we all just here for profit after all?

I understand the need for criticism, but if you provide no way forward from here, what then? Should I just withdraw all my funds from OTB and just sit here and whine because all systems are imperfect? I seriously have no idea what's the point here. I MUST be missing some obvious money-printing signals with so much superior knowledge and criticism being thrown around here. If that's the case, share them. If not, oh well. I'll just take my family on another vacation later this summer from my OTB profits.


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Re: Outsidethebox HK Signals & PAMM funds
« Reply #629 on: April 24, 2019, 05:51:44 PM »
Why isn't the MyFxBook updater running on the VPS ?

The maximum drawdown will not be correct unless you leave it connected 24/5

I have outsourced this role, and this person who runs it for me doesn't have enough space for multiple EA's attached to the multiple MT4 terminals he runs on his VPS for me.  Keeping the CPU speed and Memory allocated only to the most important tasks for best execution and up-time without crashes.
He recommended I run these types of updating EA's locally on my terminal.
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