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Re: Darwins
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2018, 11:09:53 PM »
Thanks Rod. And yes, do please keep us posted. I will take a closer look as well. If that is case and that is top 12 out of 2000, thats a good stat. But still, even I feel that 12 is a miracle. But, that could also because I have been so jaded over the years of failed traders, signals, EAs etc... Like I said, i would LOVE to be wrong. It is hard to find even one profitable strategy with low drawdown that has more than 2 years. I am intrigued enough to take a good look at some of the systems there. Psyquation is another site i am looking at to. With similar features.

I have had a similar history to yours with very few EA's or Signals being decent for any length of time. Actually the best profit I made was with Viper in his early years at Forex Signal. In retrospect I was very lucky with my timing because IMHO his strategy is a recipe for disaster!

If you want to check out Darwinex my portfolio (mostly Anglebirds) it is based on the Top 20 AUM. You can find them at Darwinex/Explore/Most Investors.

For anyone interested I will repost my porfolio: THA, SYO, ATL, GTD, JMC, LVS, NTR, FEG, QUA, ERQ, STV AND NTI. If you check these out you will find that most of them are not having as good a year as in the past. The way most everything else in Forex is behaving this year I'm not surprised.

My portfolio that I started Aug 22 is actually in DD now. Rather than being concerned I'm using it as a buying opportunity for these high quality Darwins and adding funds to the account. There are only two that I have some question on so I only added to the other 10.

I will be very interested in any comments on this portfolio if you get a chance to look at the individual Darwins. And of course comments from anyone else would also be appreciated.

Cheers,
Rod

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Re: Darwins
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2018, 12:45:50 AM »
A small addendum to my last post. If you check out the Top 20 AUM they are the 20 Darwins that have the most investors. One might think that they are the Darwins that Darwinex thinks are the best, but that is not the case.

BTW Darwinex does not recommend any Darwins - they are up to us to select. But they do provide a tremendous amount of data on them, once you figure it out and what it all means. I'm still working on that! :)

Cheers,
Rod
« Last Edit: October 17, 2018, 02:28:48 AM by nwboater »

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Re: Darwins
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2018, 12:38:17 PM »
Quite a few Darwins I have / had are the same,

I still have ERQ, LVS, NTI, SYO
I dropped ATL, STV

I Also have CJN, CLA, MYQ, TMB

Everything is at 2xRisk

The only ones that have turned a profit thus far are

TMB (0.25%)
SYO (2.98%)
ERQ (3.54%)

The rest are at various levels of loss

LVS (-15.76%)
NTI (-8.18%)
CLA (-6.68%)
MYQ (-4.40%)
CJN (-1.50%)

Pretty awful numbers for a 2-3 month period, but we will see. I don't have a lot invested, just testing it out.

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Re: Darwins
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2018, 04:21:23 PM »
Quite a few Darwins I have / had are the same,

I still have ERQ, LVS, NTI, SYO
I dropped ATL, STV

I Also have CJN, CLA, MYQ, TMB

Everything is at 2xRisk

The only ones that have turned a profit thus far are

TMB (0.25%)
SYO (2.98%)
ERQ (3.54%)

The rest are at various levels of loss

LVS (-15.76%)
NTI (-8.18%)
CLA (-6.68%)
MYQ (-4.40%)
CJN (-1.50%)

Pretty awful numbers for a 2-3 month period, but we will see. I don't have a lot invested, just testing it out.

Hi gpfwestie,

Thanks for posting here about your results. It looks like you and I both had bad luck on our timing! I'm in this for the long haul and know that in Forex bad periods happen.

I just glanced at the 4 Darwins you have that I don't. They all look solid with high DScores.

Hopefully you can hang in there for at least 6 months to give your portfolio a chance to recover.

Good luck,
Rod

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Re: Darwins
« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2018, 11:57:07 AM »

Hi gpfwestie,

Thanks for posting here about your results. It looks like you and I both had bad luck on our timing! I'm in this for the long haul and know that in Forex bad periods happen.

I just glanced at the 4 Darwins you have that I don't. They all look solid with high DScores.

Hopefully you can hang in there for at least 6 months to give your portfolio a chance to recover.

Good luck,
Rod

Hi Rod,

Yes my plan is / was to keep the thing going for 12 months, I don't think 3 months is long enough to make a decision. At the current rate of loss though, the account may blow up before then.

I'm less than convinced that diversifying with multiple Darwins actually works. It seems to me that all of the high ranking Darwins are losing money in the last quarter. What that signifies to me, is they were making money (hence High D Score), and have all stopped making money at the same time.

I expect this is because previously the market movement was favourable to their strategy's, and now it isn't.

In which case, we haven't really diversified at all - we've just ended up with a basket of Darwins which trade the same market conditions.

Westie

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Re: Darwins
« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2018, 09:06:58 PM »
Darwinex is good in that it tries to mitigate risk, however, some systems definitely perform better outside such as this one which is MQL5 and myfxbook with better results and one of the best-performing systems this year with very low DD and nice simple system. Darwinex although very good is definitely not necessarily the 'go to' site for all systems:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/autotrade/strive/2441822


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Re: Darwins
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2018, 01:25:24 AM »
Darwinex is good in that it tries to mitigate risk, however, some systems definitely perform better outside such as this one which is MQL5 and myfxbook with better results and one of the best-performing systems this year with very low DD and nice simple system. Darwinex although very good is definitely not necessarily the 'go to' site for all systems:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/autotrade/strive/2441822

Yes I have discussed this very issue with Ignacio and Iker at Darwinex.
My system also performed much better outside of Darwinex as a result of their Fund Manager software that re-allocates risk to "pin" it to 10% VaR at all times.

Compare my two equity curves:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/OutsideTheBoxHK/outside-box-master-account/2087437
https://www.darwinex.com/darwin/BUX.4.4

Anyway my DARWIN has D Score of 59.6, but has done better than most Top 10 DARWIN's that you are talking about, so who can really authoritatively put an appropriate score to a system or trader so that future results reflect whatever score they get? Every platform has a different way of assessing Investable Attributes and Trading Skills.

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Re: Darwins
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2019, 04:56:21 AM »
A couple of darwins I am keeping an eye on - over one years live trading with low ( at or around 10%) drawdown, few losing low DD months and steady regular even monthly return are HCP and VSA.

NO marti, grid or huge stops..

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Re: Darwins
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2019, 06:14:20 PM »
I wonder if anyone that posted here is still invested in Darwins ?

I closed mine in early December (about a month short of 6 months) as the loss had got to 17% and didn't appear to be changing.

In fact it didn't change, as I left a demo account running with the same Darwins, and that's down 2.5% as well.

Anyone have better luck than me ?

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Re: Darwins
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2019, 12:08:41 AM »
A couple of darwins I am keeping an eye on - over one years live trading with low ( at or around 10%) drawdown, few losing low DD months and steady regular even monthly return are HCP and VSA.

NO marti, grid or huge stops..

Hi Peter,

Thanks for the tip on those two Darwins. They look excellent except not real long history. I am going to add them to my watch list.

They also did well during last Fall when so many of the popular Darwins did not.

Cheers,
Rod

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Re: Darwins
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2019, 12:20:19 AM »
I wonder if anyone that posted here is still invested in Darwins ?

I closed mine in early December (about a month short of 6 months) as the loss had got to 17% and didn't appear to be changing.

In fact it didn't change, as I left a demo account running with the same Darwins, and that's down 2.5% as well.

Anyone have better luck than me ?

Hi gpfwestie,

As you may recall last fall I opened a portfolio of 13 Darwins that had the highest investment. They all had outstanding history and good scores. This strategy for the previous two years had done very well. I guess I jinxed it (sometimes I'm amazed at my powers!) because very shortly most of them went south and many have continued going down although at a slower rate. ATM I am down almost 17%. I am running at double risk though so it's not as bad at it seems.

My plan is to hang in there with most of them as I still believe them to be solid strategies by good traders. It is however a big disappointment that so many went down at the same time which means I don't have a well balanced portfolio. There has been a lot of discussion about this at the Darwinex Community.

Cheers,
Rod

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Re: Darwins
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2019, 06:07:30 AM »
I'm in exactly the same boat, jumped on around august/September and then all the top darwin entered into draw down immediately like day two from my investment and has been a month on month loss ever since.
Should I rebalance what's left or wait it out on the hopes a quality darwin should over long term win out

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Re: Darwins
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2019, 06:19:52 AM »
I have posted frequently on the forum there.
Hope you guys consider my DARWIN:  https://www.darwinex.com/darwin/BUX.4.4/
Forum: https://community.darwinex.com/t/bux-outside-the-box-ichimoku-scalping/4586/56

3 consecutive Darwinia allocations, and very close this month to the 4th in a row.  Just dropped from #20 to #96 last night with screwy Fed FOMC mtg.
But you'll see that my DARWIN was strong last autumn, and has good D score, good consistency, 2 year track record, now at Darwinex for 7 months.  Starting to get some investor interest and DLabs investment finally.
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Re: Darwins
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2019, 07:38:56 PM »
I have just invested in my first DARWIN.  I was originally invested with SCS but there seemed to be some debates on the Darwinex community forum to whether their track record was 100% authentic before they migrated to Darwinex.  I now look at the performance of a DARWIN/STRATEGY after it has migrated from its previous broker, over to the Darwinex platform to see if the performance is relatively consistent.
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Re: Darwins
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2019, 09:05:25 PM »
I have just invested in my first DARWIN.  I was originally invested with SCS but there seemed to be some debates on the Darwinex community forum to whether their track record was 100% authentic before they migrated to Darwinex.  I now look at the performance of a DARWIN/STRATEGY after it has migrated from its previous broker, over to the Darwinex platform to see if the performance is relatively consistent.

Hi Pegasus FX,

Thanks for your post. I'm curious which Darwin you invested in?

Hope it goes very well for you! :)

Cheers,
Rod

 

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