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Offline adele

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4xSureSmart.net
« on: April 05, 2011, 06:41:53 AM »
discovered this in forexverified website where they are doing performance testing. test shows monthly gains of 23.24%. signal provider is offering trial for $19.95 (not sure for how long) then $49.95 per month.

vendor website is www.4xsuresmart.net. their stats look good so far (high success rate, relatively small S/L): http://4xsuresmart.mt4stats.com/. they offer auto-trade signals through free trade copier and 3rd-party provider.
 
haven't tried it yet. prefer free service (EA) ;D but might change my mind if they can prove themselves over a longer period...





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Offline jubal

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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2011, 09:18:01 AM »
There actually is a cost to use the copier. It says that a separate fee will be payable to the copier provider, doesnt say how much though
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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2011, 09:40:19 AM »
following info from their website:

You will have 2 options to receive our trade signals, either through our FREE Account Copy Tool or thru a 3rd Party Signal Provider, www.Metatrader247.com. They provide autoexecutable trading via their copyrighted technology called "Auto Signals" and provide a VPS service that your trading platform is hosted 24/7. Note: There is a separate billable charge for their service.

Looks like option 1 is free, and it's option 2 that will have extra charge.
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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2011, 10:55:45 AM »
I stand corrected Adele. This looks interesting and could be worth having a go for a month to see
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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2011, 11:45:59 AM »
if u decide to try, please inform us how it goes. if it's good, we'll jump in after u  ;D

just noticed..there are 2 open positions currently in negative territory, one of them more than 100 pips. better to wait and see... still, net 1096 pips in less than 2 months is not bad  8)

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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2011, 03:18:30 PM »
Intresting, does anyone have anyfeedback on this one www.Metatrader247.com   it seems that they can autotrade for you also even if the signal service dont have a trade copier do i understand this right ?


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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 04:02:04 AM »
Hi To Everyone;
I am currently taking the $19.95 tryout and will be happy to report back to you how this service works out......maybe saving you the trouble.
jgadefelth......there is an additional charge for the Metatrader247 service, $79.90 which includes a VPS.
I am using their free investor password account link but using my own trade copier, so I cannot vouch for their copier.
My first big surprise and disappointment was that the trader does not use any stop loss of any kind.
At the current time his account is in a $670.00 drawdown and may go much deeper. He seems to have a very high win rate.....at least for the last couple of months. But it takes only one trade like this to do some real damage to an account. The market seems to have the upper hand at the moment, we will see who blinks first. He is short .20 lots on the GBPJPY from 135.84 (.10) and 137.28 (.10). Wish me luck as this is on a live account (small). I will keep you posted.
Tom K


 

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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2011, 06:09:49 AM »
Good luck! We'll be following your posts closely. :)

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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 12:55:29 PM »
Wish you all the luck hope this works out great for you.   it sounds risky but we will see.


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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 07:34:08 PM »
Hi Everyone;
Just wanted to cover a couple of points about this vendor.
The results they show on their website are from the actual account that I take my trades from, they match perfectly, but seem to only be updated once a day. Nothing funny going on here.
Support seems good, not super quick (5hrs) but response was professional and made sense.
My question:

 Hi;
 What makes you so sure that the GBPJPY will drop and hit TP=135.71
 and TP=136.00?
 And what if it keeps going UP........when will you take the loss?
 Just curious.
 Tom Kerlinger

Their response:

Greetings Mr. Kerlinger,
Thanks for your message.
We trade using divergences and the GJ is still showing some bearish divergence, hence the reason we are still holding on to our positions.  We'll see how is reacts over the next day or two.
We feel the reason it ran away was due to some high impact news that was good for the GBP economy as well as Tuesday was a banking holiday so many of the Asian traders were on holidays.
The GBPJPY has been in a trading range for the past year, so we anticipate this will continue.  Its at the top of the trading range so it should bounce down.
We are monitoring and if it continues up we'll take other courses of action, to minimize any losses.

Thank you,
regards
your 4x SureSMART Team.

Only time will tell if they are right, or if the dynamics of the market have moved against this trade........in which case I am screwed and this small ($1200) account will margin out very quickly. Not a good trading week for me.
It should be noted that they quite often take 2 or 3 positions at the same time usually closing them at the same time also. They also, as with this trade, double down on a losing trade that they are happy with. In short they sometimes BET BIG.......yes they usually win, but they are high stake traders.......if you like to take a risk, these guys are for you. I personally am having a very hard time with it, and if I survive this trade I will be back on the sidelines or at the very least trading their signals at min risk (.01)

Tom K

 
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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 04:09:05 AM »
Thanks for updating us, Tom. Their response makes sense, but they seem to be much riskier than we thought based on the initial stats.  :-[ Hope they are right and the tides turn in your favor.

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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2011, 09:05:46 AM »
I've decided to try this out for the month as well. I'm using the free copier to see how it goes. Simple copying system. They provide you with log in details of their MT4 account. You download their MT4 and put the "Master" copier on that, then you put the slave copier onto your own MT4.  No new trades since I joined but there are 4 trades running in a bit of a hole. Although they dont use a stop it will be easy to set a stop of your own if required. I will update on any new trades
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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2011, 12:22:01 PM »
Got Email notification of 2 trades placed on copier. When I went to my own account it had crashed. When I got it running again I had only 1 of the trades, which is still active and around break even point. They updated the trade with a tp value which seemed to work ok. The other trade which I missed closed out on the master for profit of 19 pips

This would appear to be the source of the copier they use:  http://www.forexcopier.com/
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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2011, 05:45:30 PM »
Another trade posted on the master, but didnt copy over.  So far 3 trades today, and only 1 for me on my account, it hit tp of 16 pips. Looks like the free copier isnt much use. No way would I spend $79.95 per month for the stand alone copier. I already have a vps
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Re: 4xSureSmart.net
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2011, 09:25:54 AM »
i think there are other free copiers available in the net (forexfactory, forex-TSD etc). but so far haven't tried any of them

 

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