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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #75 on: December 01, 2018, 09:59:42 PM »
Great stuff, Donbon!

I have just bought PZ-Averaging and Hedging. Will give your set files a go in demo and would be happy to work together to refine/develop further.

Cheers

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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #76 on: December 02, 2018, 12:43:03 AM »
sorry for not replying earlier but been out for a few days.

there are multiple set files in the thread some are low risk and some are high risk.

the EURUSD one backtested really well - with only 1 stop out in the last 14 months - but this month it already got stopped so pain in the ass really.

thats why I really suggest to put on demo first for a month make sure the trades match the backtesting and then go live -- if you want to modify it - no problems but please test first to make sure it is working properly.

also you have to be careful I have tried to label the set files for each EA -- but we have hedging and averaging in this thread.

also keep in mind that the higher risk eurusd one makes 10-15% a month if the market cooperates so a stop loss is a month and  a half of work down the drain - but it does target 100% a year.

anyway enough from me - I will take a look next week when I am back next week.


Hi donbon2,

Thanks very much for your replies. And of course thanks again for all the efforts you put into this and your sharing.

Several times in the thread you refer to the "Euro One" but I'm still not sure which set file that is. And is it for the Averaging or Hedging EA?

Cheers,
Rod
« Last Edit: December 09, 2018, 10:36:11 PM by nwboater »
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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #77 on: December 04, 2018, 08:36:53 AM »
I am running 5 Donbon2 sets posted on this thread.

Decided to run them on my live account using small lot sizes.   :D

Very early days, but so far so good...  (Ill create and share a MyFXbook portfolio at some stage)

Day 1 +0.3%
Day 2 +055%

Setup using Donbon2s set files
Broker: IC Markets
EA charts:-
PZ-Averaging - AUDUSD H1
PZ-Averaging - EURJPY H1
PZ-Averaging - EURUSD M15
PZ-Averaging - GBPJPY H4
PZ-Hedging - GBPUSD M15
PZ-Hedging - EURUSD M15

The PZ-Averaging - EURUSD M15 has performed best so far...

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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #78 on: December 04, 2018, 08:22:30 PM »
I will try to do a summary post so we can be clear what is in the thread.

also I just want to point out one thing --- the accounts are all figured to have 1000 -- but if you get stopped out you have to top the account back up to 1000 -- otherwise you will have margin issues.

every set file if you get stopped it is like 150 to 300 loss -- so just be prepared for that.

probably lastly these set files are all designed not to have very many stops and if one occurs to recover in a reasonable amount of time.

anyway I will be back - I will retest everything and put up the latest numbers-results and which EA they are.

definately please post any changes you want to make or any questions and will do my best to get to them
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PZ Hedging EA - PZ Averaging EA - PZ Grid

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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #79 on: December 04, 2018, 08:28:53 PM »
why would you buy these EAs?

1. you control them completely
2. can make individual set files for each currency based on any timeframe
3. they trade differently than your typical TP and SL based EA - where we have seen those really struggle when the market changes - these really just want some market movement
4. you can design them to trade alot or trade a little
5. can make multiple strategies and build a portfolio to offset some of the stops that come along

what is the single worst thing about the EAs

the fact because you average a losing trade or increase lot size looking to catch a move - the stop loss when they come hurts - but there isnt much you can do - except recalibrate your set file or realize its part of the game every EA is going to get stopped out at some point... this just happens in a different way.
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Powerflow NZDCAD AUDUSD
PZ Hedging EA - PZ Averaging EA - PZ Grid

(on hold  Wall St Evo - VF2 - Best Scalper - Best Free Scalper)

News - Thomson Reuters Eikon
Trade Manager - Visual Trading Console for MT4
Trading Rebates - through CashBackFX
Trade Notification EA - TradeTalk from FX Blue - free
VPS - I recommend Amazon EC2 - if you qualify for a Broker Sponsored one get CNS
PZ Support/Resistance Indicator

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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #80 on: December 04, 2018, 08:35:29 PM »
Hi donbon2,

Thanks for your further elucidation on these EA's. I will really be looking forward to your upcoming set file clarifications.

I can't thank you enough for all this! :)

Cheers,
Rod
EA's (All run on separate accounts):
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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #81 on: December 04, 2018, 08:39:34 PM »
I am running 5 Donbon2 sets posted on this thread.

Decided to run them on my live account using small lot sizes.   :D

Very early days, but so far so good...  (Ill create and share a MyFXbook portfolio at some stage)

Day 1 +0.3%
Day 2 +055%

Setup using Donbon2s set files
Broker: IC Markets
EA charts:-
PZ-Averaging - AUDUSD H1
PZ-Averaging - EURJPY H1
PZ-Averaging - EURUSD M15
PZ-Averaging - GBPJPY H4
PZ-Hedging - GBPUSD M15
PZ-Hedging - EURUSD M15

The PZ-Averaging - EURUSD M15 has performed best so far...

Hi chownc,

Thanks for sharing what you are running here. I certainly wish you luck, but am wondering if having all these on the same account might potentially be a problem if a few should open a bunch of trades at the same time. Hopefully your small lot sizes will avoid that.

Cheers,
Rod
EA's (All run on separate accounts):
Wall Street EVO & Cyborg
On Hold: Best Free Scalper,  Best Scalper & WS Trend Detector

Signal: Hans Trend 2 Beta (On hold until new version)

Darwinex: Portfolio of 12 Darwins

Broker: AxiTrader, Darwinex
VPS's: Amazon EC2
Rebates: HFT Group

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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #82 on: December 04, 2018, 09:26:17 PM »
Averaging EA

GBPYEN
4 Hour

does not trade as much as the others due to time frame and condition open - but appears to be the safest.

opens trade on a breakout

2018

PF 4.9

Profit 158 DD 32

Broker - IC Markets   VPS - Amazon EC2 + CNS  

EA:
Powerflow NZDCAD AUDUSD
PZ Hedging EA - PZ Averaging EA - PZ Grid

(on hold  Wall St Evo - VF2 - Best Scalper - Best Free Scalper)

News - Thomson Reuters Eikon
Trade Manager - Visual Trading Console for MT4
Trading Rebates - through CashBackFX
Trade Notification EA - TradeTalk from FX Blue - free
VPS - I recommend Amazon EC2 - if you qualify for a Broker Sponsored one get CNS
PZ Support/Resistance Indicator

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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #83 on: December 04, 2018, 10:04:10 PM »
GBPYEN Hedging EA 15m chart

this is higher risk due to the low zone.

PF 1.14

Profit 603  DD 224
Broker - IC Markets   VPS - Amazon EC2 + CNS  

EA:
Powerflow NZDCAD AUDUSD
PZ Hedging EA - PZ Averaging EA - PZ Grid

(on hold  Wall St Evo - VF2 - Best Scalper - Best Free Scalper)

News - Thomson Reuters Eikon
Trade Manager - Visual Trading Console for MT4
Trading Rebates - through CashBackFX
Trade Notification EA - TradeTalk from FX Blue - free
VPS - I recommend Amazon EC2 - if you qualify for a Broker Sponsored one get CNS
PZ Support/Resistance Indicator

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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #84 on: December 04, 2018, 11:13:09 PM »
Averaging EA 15m

USDYEN trend - choppier as usdyen does not trend all the time - your going to see more stops so it will be more frustrating... Mike Pipmaker says just let the EAs do their thing - and this is one of those .. it is probably safer than the Hedge EA style ones.

PF 1.15

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Broker - IC Markets   VPS - Amazon EC2 + CNS  

EA:
Powerflow NZDCAD AUDUSD
PZ Hedging EA - PZ Averaging EA - PZ Grid

(on hold  Wall St Evo - VF2 - Best Scalper - Best Free Scalper)

News - Thomson Reuters Eikon
Trade Manager - Visual Trading Console for MT4
Trading Rebates - through CashBackFX
Trade Notification EA - TradeTalk from FX Blue - free
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PZ Support/Resistance Indicator

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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #85 on: December 05, 2018, 12:47:02 AM »
Hi donbon2,

What you are posting is very informative and of course a wonderful help!

Is it safe to assume that these were all started at different times? If so we probably shouldn't compare the profits of each, only the R/R or Profit Factor.

Thanks a lot,
Rod
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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #86 on: December 05, 2018, 01:08:41 AM »
I will add the rest as well

but to be honest I would just run them all together as a portfolio -- or pick and choose

you gotta remember Hedge is riskier but makes more money - Averaging your going to get alot of smaller profits.

it is a different sort of trading really cant compare to volatility factor - these are more for someone with the mindset of mike pipmaker - I'm just going to check my account at end of each month and add funds if needed or withdraw funds -- you just can't mess with the trades if they get stopped out they get stopped out.

also remember every test is done with 2 pip spread -- so if you got ECN and get 1 pip or less then your ahead of the game.

you go look at so many EAs - they have struggled big time -- these might not be pretty EAs but they will do the job if you use these sets or make some of your own.
Broker - IC Markets   VPS - Amazon EC2 + CNS  

EA:
Powerflow NZDCAD AUDUSD
PZ Hedging EA - PZ Averaging EA - PZ Grid

(on hold  Wall St Evo - VF2 - Best Scalper - Best Free Scalper)

News - Thomson Reuters Eikon
Trade Manager - Visual Trading Console for MT4
Trading Rebates - through CashBackFX
Trade Notification EA - TradeTalk from FX Blue - free
VPS - I recommend Amazon EC2 - if you qualify for a Broker Sponsored one get CNS
PZ Support/Resistance Indicator

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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #87 on: December 05, 2018, 09:33:26 AM »
eur 15m  Hedge EA

most risky of the EA set but the greatest returns as well

you absolutely have to have 1000 in the account at all times - so you must add if you hit a SL

I would also say that I would disable this 1 week before xmas and restart like second week of January -- this requires movement.

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EA:
Powerflow NZDCAD AUDUSD
PZ Hedging EA - PZ Averaging EA - PZ Grid

(on hold  Wall St Evo - VF2 - Best Scalper - Best Free Scalper)

News - Thomson Reuters Eikon
Trade Manager - Visual Trading Console for MT4
Trading Rebates - through CashBackFX
Trade Notification EA - TradeTalk from FX Blue - free
VPS - I recommend Amazon EC2 - if you qualify for a Broker Sponsored one get CNS
PZ Support/Resistance Indicator

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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #88 on: December 06, 2018, 09:29:55 AM »
Day 1 +0.3%
Day 2 +0.55%
Day 3 -0.1%
Day 4 +0.6%

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Re: PZ Averaging EA Set Files/Discussion
« Reply #89 on: December 06, 2018, 04:12:14 PM »
if you ran the eur one u should have made profit today

Right on, DonBon2, 14.35$/1000$!
If only it wasn't a demo account  :D

Regards,
HumbleTrader

I tried using two EUR/USD charts, one on aggressive and the other recommended (balanced) risk: For some reason, although I had used different magic numbers, the two instances were interfering with each other causing a massive number of canceled orders. I have since emailed the developer/vendor, to note to him of a possible bug in the code.

I have therefore set up an entirely new demo account which I will post the widget to it as soon as the market opens. Too bad, it was a nice first winning trade which set us off to a good start.  :'(

Regards,
HumbleTrader

I received the following response from the developer:

"Thanks for your message. Indeed but Hedging EA uses a magic number of ZERO to identify the first trade from the recovery trades, which have a magic number different. So with each initial trade placed, each instance of the EA starts its own recovery process and tries to delete the orders of the other instance of the EA. Please never, ever, load the EA twice on the same symbol."

What this means is that the magic number is hardwired so that even if you change the magic number, it will be confused by the EA and go into a spin. The only way about testing this EA on multiple, instances is to set up a separate account for each instance using the same pair ie: EUR/USD: You learn something every day. ;)

Overall, the Hedge EA is performing well and we need to thank Donbon2 for introducing it to us and the hard work he has put into working out the *.set file for us.  :)

Regards,
HumbleTrader

I am wondering if this is also a problem with the Averaging EA? It seems with the Hedging EA that only one instance of a pair can be used per account. This would negate using say two different EU strategies on the same account.

Thanks,
Rod
EA's (All run on separate accounts):
Wall Street EVO & Cyborg
On Hold: Best Free Scalper,  Best Scalper & WS Trend Detector

Signal: Hans Trend 2 Beta (On hold until new version)

Darwinex: Portfolio of 12 Darwins

Broker: AxiTrader, Darwinex
VPS's: Amazon EC2
Rebates: HFT Group

 

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