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Offline Daxbot

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Re: Daxbot
« Reply #135 on: February 06, 2020, 11:36:34 AM »

lara,

his bt does match rather well to the forward results. i dont care about errors if it matches.

my bt are just bad with this ea, some other ea they match forward, then again some others absolutely not, go figure. i used tds and terminal data on this one, no luck. its the weirdest thing which i will never figure out why that is.

todays session open trade was a crapshoot since at the open it often can be erratic on the dow, same goes for ger30.

hi,
yes the backtest should be in 90%+ correlation to BT.
If you want to send a screenshot of your backtest, we may be able to spot something, normally something simple.
all best

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« Reply #136 on: February 06, 2020, 12:42:35 PM »
Very strange trade today - stopped out at -10 pips 10.02 @ bar low of **58.50 for some reason...assume others got a win - good job this is demo) TP/SL both set at default 20 pips icmarkets demo.

Our 10am friend again caused some wins and some loss.
In your case peter, the SL and TP always calculate from OFFICIAL BAR OPEN not ACTUAL OPEN because in this way it will replicate the way it supposed to run and run in LINE with HISTORICAL TESTING. Same as us, our entry was 7 pips under the open bar price, so SL was like 13 pips today.
Attached image.
Many got winner today, very very tight on SL, maybe by 0.5 pip.
OPEN on IC was 13578, so your buy was OFFICIALLY 13579, SL 13578.5 (1950 points)
Hit SL exactly.
Had you used 2070 SL as mentioned previous, trade was winner.
Again, we cant re-iterate enough SPREAD is VITAL and even small margin of error can make substantial difference.

Tough luck this morning.



If the bot is sending a buy trade to the broker @ 13569, as today, the stop should always be @ 13549 (=20 pips) should it not - otherwise we have the bot working against us; whether it is an official trade or not.......?

Look at 10am picture
BOT send order at 10am to Broker IC markets at 13578.00 CHECK THE CHART. Bot needs to place stop loss, so it take the requested price and deduct 20 points. So, SL is 13558.
In meantime,. order get filled at 13571.00, so now SL is only 13 points from your actual price. SL will always be 20 points from bar open (requested price) not price the trade actually opened.
This is the only way it can work, because otherwise it WILL NOT ALIGN to backtest!!!

OK so the actual entry was around 10 pips positive slippage in our favour leaving the SL as per original bot instruction; and IF the SL hadn't been hot the TP would have been around 30 pips taking into account the better entry....

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« Reply #137 on: February 06, 2020, 01:08:56 PM »
Very strange trade today - stopped out at -10 pips 10.02 @ bar low of **58.50 for some reason...assume others got a win - good job this is demo) TP/SL both set at default 20 pips icmarkets demo.

Our 10am friend again caused some wins and some loss.
In your case peter, the SL and TP always calculate from OFFICIAL BAR OPEN not ACTUAL OPEN because in this way it will replicate the way it supposed to run and run in LINE with HISTORICAL TESTING. Same as us, our entry was 7 pips under the open bar price, so SL was like 13 pips today.
Attached image.
Many got winner today, very very tight on SL, maybe by 0.5 pip.
OPEN on IC was 13578, so your buy was OFFICIALLY 13579, SL 13578.5 (1950 points)
Hit SL exactly.
Had you used 2070 SL as mentioned previous, trade was winner.
Again, we cant re-iterate enough SPREAD is VITAL and even small margin of error can make substantial difference.

Tough luck this morning.



If the bot is sending a buy trade to the broker @ 13569, as today, the stop should always be @ 13549 (=20 pips) should it not - otherwise we have the bot working against us; whether it is an official trade or not.......?

Look at 10am picture
BOT send order at 10am to Broker IC markets at 13578.00 CHECK THE CHART. Bot needs to place stop loss, so it take the requested price and deduct 20 points. So, SL is 13558.
In meantime,. order get filled at 13571.00, so now SL is only 13 points from your actual price. SL will always be 20 points from bar open (requested price) not price the trade actually opened.
This is the only way it can work, because otherwise it WILL NOT ALIGN to backtest!!!

OK so the actual entry was around 10 pips positive slippage in our favour leaving the SL as per original bot instruction; and IF the SL hadn't been hot the TP would have been around 30 pips taking into account the better entry....

yes look, see our account.
look 2 days ago as well, we got 4 pips negative entry, so only netted +16

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« Reply #138 on: February 06, 2020, 02:33:17 PM »
Another winner on my Blackbull Markets live/real money account,

Sell opened at 10:25:01 at 13561.25, closed at 11:24:20 13541.5 for 19.8 pips.

BTW, I changed my open time to 9:56 as recommended.

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« Reply #139 on: February 07, 2020, 01:39:48 PM »
A loss this morning,

Buy opened at 10:45:00 13544.75, closed 10:51:59 13523.75 for -21.0 pips.

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« Reply #140 on: February 10, 2020, 07:44:18 PM »
Another loss this morning,

Buy opened at 11:10:00 13490.75, closed 11:37:52 13467.75 for -23.0 pips.

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« Reply #141 on: February 11, 2020, 01:56:42 PM »
that's incredible...

all the time that i start a new ea trading system i got sequence of loss...

ok... to next round...

that's incredible... really...

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« Reply #142 on: February 12, 2020, 01:17:06 AM »
It had a similar sequence in December - the issue with really short term records is you have very little to reassure if things go south - versus a 2 year track record with proven recovery from drawdowns  - so it is way too early to make a judgment on this one as yet.

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« Reply #143 on: February 12, 2020, 09:45:29 AM »
hi guys
yes set of 3 or 4 (less so) sequence is logical once a month, according to history live and backtest. It typical the way the market want you to disbelieve in system, as you turn it off it rallies.
poor run, but always comes a good streak also. Obviously, a win/loss/win/loss sequence is easier to take than a set of 3.
As Peter mentioned we got hit with a 4 streak in December.
I added 3k account to myfxbook.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/DaxBot/daxbot3k/4642202

Thanks
Matts
www.daxbot.eu
« Last Edit: February 12, 2020, 09:47:28 AM by Daxbot »

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« Reply #144 on: February 12, 2020, 10:11:44 AM »
hi Matts,

interesting the new account... but i see a difference with mine: you got a TAKEPROFIT yesterday when i hit a STOPLOSS...

same broker ADMIRAL... why difference? see attached grabbed screen

this is little irritating...

best regard

EDIT:

i just see now that you have a STOPLOSS on previous account. you use different set on this new 3k account?

« Last Edit: February 12, 2020, 10:14:13 AM by atomico »

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« Reply #145 on: February 12, 2020, 10:23:26 AM »
no same settings
My original reference account got stopped -20, the 3k got better entry so got out for +20. Same broker and SAME server.
It was fractions in it.
But if you run Strategy tester this was officially loss cos entry max pips from bar entry was 19.2
« Last Edit: February 12, 2020, 10:26:23 AM by Daxbot »

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« Reply #146 on: February 12, 2020, 10:29:38 AM »
yes, i see reference account, it's same as mine.

no tested again the expert. you check test and live are matched?

i think to try a test on next days, i have to download metadata firstly. on TDS is GE30, correct?


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Re: Daxbot
« Reply #147 on: February 12, 2020, 04:00:16 PM »
Another loss the morning of Tue Feb 11,

Sell opened at 11:05:00 13573.75, closed 11:25:37 13459.25 for -21.5 pips.

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« Reply #148 on: February 12, 2020, 04:04:29 PM »
Another loss the morning of Wed Feb 12,

Sell opened at 12:05:01 13699.75, closed 12:43:15 13720.75 for -21.0 pips.

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« Reply #149 on: February 12, 2020, 04:25:28 PM »
Another loss the morning of Wed Feb 12,

Sell opened at 12:05:01 13699.75, closed 12:43:15 13720.75 for -21.0 pips.

In Blackbull they are closing market in Dax for 9 hours every night, with the result a break in data, a gap open of 100 pips at 9am server time, it creating signals not aligned to broker with constant flow of data and not closing market.
If EA is picking entry based on last 1000 data points, then both brokers have 2 sets of data points.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2020, 04:48:47 PM by Daxbot »

 

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