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Offline WiZARD

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Volatility Factor
« on: March 22, 2012, 10:55:31 AM »
New EA from the developer of famous WallStreet EA

Myfxbook real money stats
« Last Edit: March 22, 2012, 11:14:36 AM by WiZARD »
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Offline 999cjb

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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 11:16:08 AM »

Usual huge hype and countdown to the release date.

Looks like a GBPUSD grid trader again. We've seen plenty of these before but none will dare show a backtest from 2007. We all know why.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2015, 08:13:43 PM by odysseus11 »

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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 11:19:17 AM »
The unaffiliated webpage is at http://www.volatility-factor.com/

Usual huge hype and countdown to the release date.

Looks like a GBPUSD grid trader again. We've seen plenty of these before but none will dare show a backtest from 2007. We all know why.

Yep it is a grid trader. And from history can be seen that it stacks up to 8 levels of positions

A more expensive version of Gridmeup which cost 39 USD

Will be interesting to see some independent backtests when the EA is on the market. On the homepage it says March 28 is release date.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2012, 07:09:25 AM by Anchorpoint »
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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 10:53:57 AM »
I am bumping up this new thread. This will be the big release next week on 28th from makers of Wall Street Forex Robot so we will soon see a lot of marketing around for this product: http://www.volatility-factor.com/

So now is the time to start some initial discussions and analysis about this thing.

Seems like a GU grid trader and from one of the myfxbook demo statements seems like drawdown on some open trades was very big.  Last week it closed a basket of  four trades with duration 10 days with an estimate drawdown on each trade of circa 200 pips for an average profit of about 10 pips.. On the positive side it is a reputable vendor selling this so it would be nice to know more about the risks, hard stops etc in this strategy. Possibly Donna could invite vendor to this thread?
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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 12:13:08 PM »
Hi,

max dd was <12% on the live account since dec. 11.
Vendor produced with wsfr a realy good ea.
So this could be very interesting and we all know the risks of a grid trader.
My conclusion: Why not try out? 60 day refund as usual.

best regards
Mark
« Last Edit: March 25, 2012, 12:15:10 PM by Tradenow »

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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 01:14:49 PM »
Worst invention ever. all they did was put wallstreet on steroids. no visible stop loss. look like gridmeupfx or tom's EA. it even trades the same pair as gridmeupfx

Offline kjen17

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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 01:44:07 PM »
I am bumping up this new thread. This will be the big release next week on 28th from makers of Wall Street Forex Robot so we will soon see a lot of marketing around for this product: http://www.volatility-factor.com/

So now is the time to start some initial discussions and analysis about this thing.

Seems like a GU grid trader and from one of the myfxbook demo statements seems like drawdown on some open trades was very big.  Last week it closed a basket of  four trades with duration 10 days with an estimate drawdown on each trade of circa 200 pips for an average profit of about 10 pips.. On the positive side it is a reputable vendor selling this so it would be nice to know more about the risks, hard stops etc in this strategy. Possibly Donna could invite vendor to this thread?

yes its interesting, we need to know more about how it takes losses/ability to limit drawdown. i think it will be difficult to draw further conclusions until people have their own copies and can run backtests...

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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 02:39:56 PM »
Personal opinion: Stay away from grid or martingales! A vendor will usually use them when the original signal is not good enough to trade on its own. If the signal is strong why use them in first place? Maybe just to make a second product out of thin air...

« Last Edit: March 25, 2012, 06:39:27 PM by JimBss »

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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 05:39:15 PM »
A bit annoying how the myfxbook is in gold, difficult to tell the margin requirements. The 11% drawdown in gold could be higher when convereted to USD. Is that right?

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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2012, 06:02:06 PM »
A bit annoying how the myfxbook is in gold, difficult to tell the margin requirements. The 11% drawdown in gold could be higher when convereted to USD. Is that right?

No DD is the same in percentage terms. The starting GLD balance is appr 6200 USD so current balance appr 10 k USD
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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 09:03:25 AM »
curious to see what kind of upsells they offer and for what they want to charge a monthly fee...?

This can be found under their affiliate link on the homepage:
40% Commission on Front-End @ $299 => $119.60
40% Commission on Monthly Rebill @ $14.90 => $5.96/Month
40% Commission on Upsell #1 @ $299 => $119.60
40% Commission on Upsell #2 @ $299 => $119.60

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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 09:56:25 AM »
curious to see what kind of upsells they offer and for what they want to charge a monthly fee...?

This can be found under their affiliate link on the homepage:
40% Commission on Front-End @ $299 => $119.60
40% Commission on Monthly Rebill @ $14.90 => $5.96/Month
40% Commission on Upsell #1 @ $299 => $119.60
40% Commission on Upsell #2 @ $299 => $119.60

So why don't we just register as affiliates with clickbank and get the rebates ourselves for our own purchases ?  ;)

Clickbank are on the lookout for this sort of thing. They may close your account and keep your commissions so you do it at your own risk.

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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2012, 10:54:27 AM »
curious to see what kind of upsells they offer and for what they want to charge a monthly fee...?

This can be found under their affiliate link on the homepage:
40% Commission on Front-End @ $299 => $119.60
40% Commission on Monthly Rebill @ $14.90 => $5.96/Month
40% Commission on Upsell #1 @ $299 => $119.60
40% Commission on Upsell #2 @ $299 => $119.60

So why don't we just register as affiliates with clickbank and get the rebates ourselves for our own purchases ?  ;)

Clickbank are on the lookout for this sort of thing. They may close your account and keep your commissions so you do it at your own risk.

more important...bad karma.... :-X

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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2012, 12:23:18 PM »
curious to see what kind of upsells they offer and for what they want to charge a monthly fee...?

This can be found under their affiliate link on the homepage:
40% Commission on Front-End @ $299 => $119.60
40% Commission on Monthly Rebill @ $14.90 => $5.96/Month
40% Commission on Upsell #1 @ $299 => $119.60
40% Commission on Upsell #2 @ $299 => $119.60

So why don't we just register as affiliates with clickbank and get the rebates ourselves for our own purchases ?  ;)

Clickbank are on the lookout for this sort of thing. They may close your account and keep your commissions so you do it at your own risk.

more important...bad karma.... :-X

Those upsells are a real turn off.  Probably the same ea with a few extra currency pairs.  Turns this into a whopping $900 product.  And what is the deal with the monthly fee?  It says on the homepage updates are free.
Also, it looks like clickbank has started allowing products over $100... maybe trying to take advantage of the void left by Plimus? 
« Last Edit: March 26, 2012, 12:25:16 PM by trader578 »

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Re: Volatility Factor
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2012, 12:25:30 PM »
I'm really interested in seeing some real backtests on this one, waiting for launch tomorrow! 
« Last Edit: March 28, 2012, 07:12:01 AM by MariaE »

 

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